1 Jun 02 20:06:11 <Jacob> woah... its 8
   2 Jun 02 20:06:16 <Jacob> err.. 0 utc
   3 Jun 02 20:06:46 <Jacob> looks like i'm late for a meeting i scheduled... ha
   4 Jun 02 20:07:03 <kidders> tut tut...
   5 Jun 02 20:07:07 <kidders> go stand in the corner
   6 Jun 02 20:07:12 <kidders> :P
   7 Jun 02 20:07:21 <Jacob> already am ;)
   8 Jun 02 20:07:37 <kidders> hehe
   9 Jun 02 20:07:41 <Jacob> anywho, no "big" topics to discuss tonight
  10 Jun 02 20:08:07 <Jacob> but it's been a month + 1 week since the last meeting.. so we'll check up on whats going on.
  11 Jun 02 20:08:25 <ajmorris_> ah
  12 Jun 02 20:08:28 <ajmorris_> sorry i'm late
  13 Jun 02 20:08:43 <Jacob> no problem ajmorris_, i just got to my laptop a minute ago :-D
  14 Jun 02 20:09:00 <ajmorris_> kk
  15 Jun 02 20:09:01 <Jacob> to start, i'm shutting off beryl because this is the 5th time it has crashed today
  16 Jun 02 20:09:35 <Jacob> AGH! now firefox crashes
  17 Jun 02 20:10:19 <ajmorris_> u using gutys dude?
  18 Jun 02 20:10:24 <ajmorris_> *gutsy
  19 Jun 02 20:10:50 <Jacob> ajmorris_: feisty, and it has only been unstable today.. i did mess with my X configuration however, i might reboot later
  20 Jun 02 20:11:01 <ajmorris_> kk
  21 Jun 02 20:11:07 <Jacob> next off: these UAresolved tags seem to be doing somewhat well
  22 Jun 02 20:11:18 <Jacob> 80 topics tagged with them
  23 Jun 02 20:11:44 <Jacob> however, i'm wondering if we should keep them
  24 Jun 02 20:12:23 <Jacob> they are keeping "fixed" topics out of the bumped posts filter, but it still seems like a bit of a hassle at times.
  25 Jun 02 20:12:33 <Jacob> I even forget to put them on posts.
  26 Jun 02 20:13:03 <ajmorris_> i forgot we had them
  27 Jun 02 20:13:04 <ajmorris_> lol
  28 Jun 02 20:13:09 <Jacob> (so did I)
  29 Jun 02 20:13:23 * inkogneato has quit ("Into the great wide open...")
  30 Jun 02 20:13:23 <kidders> I've been lazy about it too :(
  31 Jun 02 20:13:36 <Jacob> I think this is something that can be polled on the forums later; on whether we shall keep them
  32 Jun 02 20:14:39 <Jacob> madmetal/spyros has been doing a good job of remembering it looks like, since 80% of all topics in this search were last posted by him
  33 Jun 02 20:16:01 * Jacob is looking thru the last meeting log to find out what was said
  34 Jun 02 20:16:27 <spd106> To be honest I don't like the word resolved being in there, kinda gives the wrong impression
  35 Jun 02 20:16:44 <Jacob> spd106: my thoughts exactly
  36 Jun 02 20:17:05 <spd106> UATeam would achieve the same results
  37 Jun 02 20:17:14 <Jacob> yeah
  38 Jun 02 20:17:26 <spd106> Without sounding like we had solved the problem
  39 Jun 02 20:17:35 <kidders> :)
  40 Jun 02 20:17:37 <Jacob> i actually was asked about that once
  41 Jun 02 20:17:56 <Jacob> (but then they saw my signature and read the answer)
  42 Jun 02 20:18:52 <Jacob> so our choices are: 1) keep it, 2) change it to UATeam (or similar), 3) scrap the idea
  43 Jun 02 20:19:24 <spd106> I like the idea of promoting our presence
  44 Jun 02 20:19:57 <kidders> me too. i suggest switching to "UATeam" and ...
  45 Jun 02 20:20:11 <kidders> ... scrapping the idea, only if it turns out not to be useful
  46 Jun 02 20:20:17 <ajmorris_> where is the uaresolved thing?
  47 Jun 02 20:20:24 <ajmorris_> i just answered a post and cant find it
  48 Jun 02 20:20:43 <Jacob> ajmorris_: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?d...ery=UAResolved
  49 Jun 02 20:21:07 <Jacob> although it might be a few moments until the search index is updated
  50 Jun 02 20:21:10 <ajmorris_> Jacob, "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."
  51 Jun 02 20:21:24 <Jacob> strange... it seems to work here
  52 Jun 02 20:21:28 <Jacob> try http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=21365822
  53 Jun 02 20:21:39 <Jacob> ack - never mind
  54 Jun 02 20:21:56 <Jacob> try clicking on the last link on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390283
  55 Jun 02 20:21:58 <ajmorris_> no, but do we click a UAresolved button when resolving a post?
  56 Jun 02 20:22:03 <Jacob> nope
  57 Jun 02 20:22:15 <Jacob> you just add the text at the end
  58 Jun 02 20:22:25 <ajmorris_> oh, my bad
  59 Jun 02 20:22:26 <ajmorris_> lol
  60 Jun 02 20:22:29 <Jacob> :-D
  61 Jun 02 20:23:47 <Jacob> anyway, we'll poll this on the forums
  62 Jun 02 20:24:46 <Jacob> as for the suggested forum changes from last time, i can't see them happening soon
  63 Jun 02 20:25:02 <Jacob> (as in moving the subscribed thread box and search options)
  64 Jun 02 20:25:28 <Jacob> asked about the subscribed thread box, never got a response
  65 Jun 02 20:26:06 <Jacob> although there have been times when things have been scheduled for the next forum update and just haven't been published yet
  66 Jun 02 20:28:29 <spd106> I like the new "check if already posted" button, though I don't know how much it's being used
  67 Jun 02 20:28:48 <Jacob> i agree
  68 Jun 02 20:29:45 <Jacob> i think that should be a required option, especially in ABT. once they click submit, it should do a search, and ask the user if they still want to continue
  69 Jun 02 20:30:11 <ajmorris_> like when posting a bug in launchpad :)
  70 Jun 02 20:30:26 <kidders> I think so too, Jacob
  71 Jun 02 20:30:37 <Jacob> ajmorris_: right
  72 Jun 02 20:31:29 <Jacob> are all of you using firefox as your web browser?
  73 Jun 02 20:31:36 <Jacob> or Epiphany?
  74 Jun 02 20:31:54 <ajmorris_> when i don't have to use an i.e. only page, i use firefox
  75 Jun 02 20:32:29 * spd106 uses Firefox
  76 Jun 02 20:32:30 <kidders> i don't have any particular habit
  77 Jun 02 20:33:43 <Jacob> ack, never mind, i was thinking of something to track posts but then realized it wouldn't work out so well :-P
  78 Jun 02 20:34:27 <kidders> you're not going to tell us about it?
  79 Jun 02 20:35:27 <Jacob> well, it would have been something to the effect of a greasemonkey extension that would automatically send topics to a tracker when you reply
  80 Jun 02 20:35:52 <Jacob> but then i'm starting to think of privacy implications of it sending every topic link to it
  81 Jun 02 20:36:21 <Jacob> maybe a confirmation dialog or checkbox near the submit button
  82 Jun 02 20:36:35 <Jacob> let me rephrase this then, it could actually work
  83 Jun 02 20:37:03 <Jacob> 1) You find a thread that needs answering, while already having this "extension" installed.
  84 Jun 02 20:37:16 <Jacob> 2) You hit Reply and start writing an answer.
  85 Jun 02 20:38:06 <Jacob> 3) The extension will add a checkbox above the Submit button to send the topic to a central location, accessible only to UA team members, where it could be tracked
  86 Jun 02 20:38:53 <Jacob> benefits of tracking would be the ability to ask questions between the team on a topic, and mark them as resolved/unresolved and such
  87 Jun 02 20:39:15 <Jacob> However this is just an idea floating around in my head
  88 Jun 02 20:39:23 <spd106> How about an irc bot for forum posts, like ubotu does for bug reports?
  89 Jun 02 20:39:37 <Jacob> spd106: yeah, and i was actually about to type that
  90 Jun 02 20:39:48 <kidders> Most browsers have some sort of built-in search capability that we could hijack, either.
  91 Jun 02 20:40:05 <Jacob> although... we need a server for an IRC bot, and my host strictly prohibits them
  92 Jun 02 20:40:17 <Jacob> kidders: i see what you mean, like the firefox search bar
  93 Jun 02 20:40:32 <kidders> Yeah... Firefox users could just drag a tab onto the search bar
  94 Jun 02 20:40:48 <kidders> ... Opera users could just put a "U" or something before the URL and reload it
  95 Jun 02 20:40:55 <Jacob> ooh, i like that idea
  96 Jun 02 20:41:22 <Jacob> and it seems to work when i drag a tab into the search bar (although google returns no results)
  97 Jun 02 20:41:32 <kidders> Yep
  98 Jun 02 20:41:51 <kidders> ... adding an extra "search" would be trivial for most users
  99 Jun 02 20:42:00 <Jacob> another option for that would be a bookmarklet, that when you click it, it takes you to a tracker
 100 Jun 02 20:43:16 <Jacob> kind of like the TinyURL! and reddit this buttons for toolbars
 101 Jun 02 20:44:10 <kidders> hmmm...
 102 Jun 02 20:44:12 <Jacob> i'll probably end up scripting some massive database system for this.. I script PHP when i'm bored.
 103 Jun 02 20:44:16 <Jacob> lol
 104 Jun 02 20:44:30 <kidders> The way I see it, if someone felt kind enough to create/host something that could read post IDs off URL querystrings...
 105 Jun 02 20:44:43 <kidders> ... there would be any number of ways it could be plugged into browsers
 106 Jun 02 20:45:02 <kidders> ... people could use whatever idea they thought was smartest
 107 Jun 02 20:45:05 <Jacob> we can give the option I suppose
 108 Jun 02 20:45:06 <Jacob> yeah
 109 Jun 02 20:45:21 <kidders> yeah
 110 Jun 02 20:45:22 <kidders> ...
 111 Jun 02 20:45:29 <kidders> from an implementation perspective...
 112 Jun 02 20:45:45 <kidders> the only thing that would be important would ...
 113 Jun 02 20:46:11 <kidders> ... be what the script liked people to send it
 114 Jun 02 20:46:26 <kidders> (in terms of a querystring, for instance)
 115 Jun 02 20:47:07 <Jacob> well.. it could either take a whole url or topic id as I'm seeing it
 116 Jun 02 20:47:18 <kidders> yip
 117 Jun 02 20:47:21 <Jacob> (thank god for regular expressions in that case)
 118 Jun 02 20:47:24 <kidders> lol
 119 Jun 02 20:48:04 <Jacob> well i'll probably make a subdomain for it tonight/tomorrow and write some sort of tracking system
 120 Jun 02 20:49:06 <Jacob> this is something easy enough to implement and it also takes the load off of the forum servers ;)
 121 Jun 02 20:49:29 <kidders> I'd be happy to help ... but I doubt you'd need it!
 122 Jun 02 20:49:45 <Jacob> hehe
 123 Jun 02 20:50:27 <Jacob> you can help draft ideas / test / code (SQL + JavaScrpt + PHP) if you want
 124 Jun 02 20:50:34 <kidders> sure
 125 Jun 02 20:50:40 <Jacob> although be warned: i don't use revision systems O.o
 126 Jun 02 20:51:01 <kidders> you're like me then? hehe
 127 Jun 02 20:51:06 <Jacob> ;)
 128 Jun 02 20:51:34 <Jacob> countless times have i lost many lines of code because of random server occurences
 129 Jun 02 20:51:57 <Jacob> forgetting to save in vim, connection drops, overwriting the wrong file...
 130 Jun 02 20:52:01 <kidders> nasty
 131 Jun 02 20:52:08 <Jacob> but i have survived still....
 132 Jun 02 20:52:23 <Jacob> maybe i'll use Baazar on it soon
 133 Jun 02 20:52:32 <Jacob> but not yet ;)
 134 Jun 02 20:54:24 <Jacob> I have nothing else to say for this meeting, anybody have anything?
 135 Jun 02 20:54:55 <ajmorris_> none here
 136 Jun 02 20:54:58 <spd106> nope
 137 Jun 02 20:55:10 * kidders has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
 138 Jun 02 20:55:19 <Jacob> i'd take that as a no :-P
 139 Jun 02 20:55:23 <ajmorris_> lol