Meeting started at 17:04:06 UTC. The chair is gema. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-11-17.04.log.html .

Meeting summary

• Previous Actions

LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation (patrickmw, 17:08:04) LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation (patrickmw, 17:09:29)

• Blueprints Updates and Community Tasks

ACTION: alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one (gema, 17:12:11)

• Updates Xubuntu

LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/911905 (charlie-tca, 17:31:59)

• Updates Lubuntu
• Edubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Mithbuntu

ACTION: balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda (gema, 17:42:17)

• Other topics

Meeting ended at 17:49:18 UTC.

Votes

Action items

• alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one
• balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda

Action items, by person

• alourie
• * alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one
• balloons
• * balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda

People present (lines said)

• gema (107)
• alourie (45)
• balloons (26)
• txomon|nqas (17)
• phillw (13)
• hggdh (12)
• charlie-tca (10)
• micahg (8)
• ScottK (6)
• patrickmw (5)
• meetingology (5)
• astraljava (4)
• nuclearbob (4)
• jibel (4)
• leworks (3)
• stgraber (2)
• ubottu (1)

Full Log

• 17:04:06 <gema> #startmeeting

  17:04:06 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jan 11 17:04:06 2012 UTC. The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.

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  17:04:25 <gema> so who is present today on the meeting? 17:04:42 * txomon|nqas is here 17:04:47 * charlie-tca seems to be here today

  17:04:47 <phillw> o/ 17:04:51 * balloons present and accounted for

  17:05:09 <jibel> hi o/

  17:05:34 * gema is getting everyone to answer

  17:05:38 <hggdh> ~ô~

  17:05:41 <nuclearbob> howdy

  17:05:51 <leworks> ~w

  17:06:07 <nuclearbob> er

  17:06:08 <nuclearbob> szia

  17:06:17 <gema> good, let's get started then

  17:06:31 <gema> [TOPIC] Previous Actions

  17:06:46 <gema> phillw: do we have any pending action from last week?

  17:06:58 <phillw> gema: just that one carried over action.

  17:07:13 <gema> patrickmw: you created this link, didn't you?

  17:07:31 <patrickmw> yes, let me grab that

  17:08:04 <patrickmw> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation

  17:08:13 <gema> cool, thanks

  17:08:30 <alourie> hi there

  17:08:44 <gema> hi alourie

  17:08:52 <balloons> hello alourie

  17:08:56 <gema> alourie: could you make sure that links makes it to the front of our wiki?

  17:09:05 <gema> patrickmw: thanks a lot

  17:09:06 <alourie> gema: sorry?

  17:09:14 <gema> the link that patrickmw just pasted

  17:09:23 <gema> with links to all the projects and test code

  17:09:29 <patrickmw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation

  17:09:32 <alourie> ah, sure

  17:09:35 <alourie> it's there

  17:09:39 <gema> thanks

  17:09:41 <patrickmw>

  17:09:44 <patrickmw> indeed

  17:09:54 <alourie> I will

  17:09:54 <gema> so that action is dealt with

  17:10:00 <gema> let's move on

  17:10:17 <gema> [TOPIC] Blueprints Updates and Community Tasks

  17:10:27 <gema> we are going to do the update quickly today

  17:10:37 <gema> alourie: do you have any update?

  17:11:06 <alourie> gema: I've been working on wiki update, so I can see you and Nicholas have looked at it

  17:11:16 <alourie> I am now more happy with the structure and the content

  17:11:35 <gema> excellent, we love the changes but are confused by the duality

  17:11:37 <alourie> so I think we're ready for feedback and replacing the main page

  17:11:40 <gema> so merging it would be good

  17:11:47 <alourie> yea

  17:11:49 <balloons> alourie, yep, I think so

  17:12:04 <balloons> much less confusing now

  17:12:07 <alourie> balloons, gema: I just saw the email, will read it later

  17:12:11 <gema> [ACTION] alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one 17:12:11 * meetingology alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one

  17:12:25 <gema> I like actions

  17:12:25 <alourie> btw, is there a way to move complete trees of wiki?

  17:12:40 <gema> alourie: I don't think so, but not sure

  17:12:43 <alourie> I've been playing with the idea to move some of the Testing/... to QATeam/...

  17:12:49 <balloons> alourie, I can dig around and help you with that

  17:12:50 <balloons> I was looking into it this afternoon mysel

  17:12:52 <balloons> *myself

  17:13:06 <alourie> balloons: well, it's wiki, so it kinda should be possible

  17:13:12 <balloons> no promises there's an easy way

  17:13:22 <balloons> right.. export and import if nothing else

  17:13:28 <gema> in any case, we may want to do a copy&paste, whichever way

  17:13:40 <alourie> gema, balloons: or we can leave it as it is

  17:13:45 <alourie> and just link properly

  17:13:56 <alourie> let me work on it a bit

  17:14:00 <alourie> and finally

  17:14:10 <gema> alourie: you got it, make sure balloons help you with that

  17:14:18 <alourie> there's a lot of obsolete stuff there

  17:14:24 <gema> alourie: remove it

  17:14:26 <alourie> which is no longer relevant

  17:14:29 <gema> it is confusing

  17:14:32 <alourie> gema: yes, that's my point

  17:14:46 <alourie> maybe not remove per se, but "archive" of a sort

  17:14:46 <gema> alourie: if you don't feel comfy with it, I will grab the axe 17:14:50 * txomon|nqas laughs

  17:14:55 <alourie> gema: oh, don't worry

  17:15:04 <gema> alourie: it's a wiki, there's history there

  17:15:04 <alourie> I worry that my axe could be too large

  17:15:07 <gema> don't worry and remove it

  17:15:11 <alourie> gema: sure

  17:15:15 <alourie> I'm done

  17:15:20 <gema> ok

  17:15:21 <alourie> ...

  17:15:26 <gema> txomon|nqas: do you have any update?

  17:15:43 <txomon|nqas> not refering the wiki

  17:15:51 <gema> and referring to anything else?

  17:16:23 <txomon|nqas> well, I would like to discuss what we already started discussing in the mail-list

  17:16:24 <balloons> alourie, yes in general it's best to not have old content.. just confuses everyone

  17:16:41 <alourie> balloons: yea, sure

  17:16:59 <balloons> txomon|nqas, the bug report?

  17:17:01 <gema> txomon|nqas: you mean the bug?

  17:17:12 <txomon|nqas> more meant to be a post, but yes

  17:17:23 <alourie> o oh

  17:17:27 <gema> txomon|nqas: ok, can we discuss this next week?

  17:17:28 <alourie>

  17:17:37 <txomon|nqas> oki

  17:17:38 <gema> place it in the agenda as an item?

  17:17:42 <alourie> gema: please

  17:17:47 <gema> or if you prefer, you could answer to my email

  17:17:56 <txomon|nqas> I prefer

  17:18:08 <alourie> gema: place it to agenda, if we solve it through mail discussion, we'll remove it

  17:18:10 <txomon|nqas> don't know if I will be able to be here

  17:18:16 <alourie> txomon|home:

  17:18:21 <gema> txomon|nqas: ok

  17:18:30 <gema> let's do it by email so that everyone benefits from it

  17:18:34 <balloons> txomon|nqas, did you have any thoughts on possible action items to take that you wanted feedback on?

  17:19:03 <txomon|nqas> I have been testing packages independently

  17:19:06 <balloons> otherwise, email should work nicely

  17:19:19 <txomon|nqas> and that for example is not quite stable

  17:19:31 <txomon|nqas> in gnome packets dependencies missing etc

  17:19:36 <gema> txomon|nqas: is this one of the tasks in our current list of things to do?

  17:19:42 <gema> or something you'd like to add there?

  17:19:48 <txomon|nqas> gema: add

  17:19:56 <gema> txomon|nqas: ok, so make the changes on the wiki

  17:20:04 <txomon|nqas> will

  17:20:20 <alourie> txomon|home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TasksPrecise

  17:20:38 <gema> yep

  17:20:39 <balloons> you can find that link on the main page now, if you lose it

  17:20:49 <txomon|nqas> oki ty

  17:21:08 <gema> good, so from next week onwards we'll start working on it

  17:21:31 <gema> I will wait for lubuntu and xubuntu updates for charlie-tca and phillw

  17:21:39 <gema> so, hggdh any update from you? 17:21:47 * phillw is here 17:21:51 * charlie-tca too

  17:22:02 * gema knows, you have your own agenda item

  17:22:14 <hggdh> not from me, coming back from vacation

  17:22:20 <gema> jibel: ?

  17:23:14 <jibel> currently working on upgrades from lucid to precise to make it as smooth as possible

  17:23:21 <jibel> not much else to report

  17:23:28 <gema> ok, thanks

  17:23:35 <gema> leworks:

  17:23:36 <gema> ?

  17:23:42 <leworks> Nothing from me

  17:23:58 <gema> ok, just to let you know, guys, leworks is our new QA Admin

  17:24:07 <gema> he knows all about the lab and can run things and fix stuff

  17:24:14 <gema> nuclearbob: ?

  17:25:08 <nuclearbob> I've sent a number of patches to the qa-regression-testing suite, and I've been working with the kernel team to get autotest tests ported and usable on ubuntu and in the qa lab, particualrly with an eye toward develpping a process to do this in the future with less manual intervention

  17:25:30 <gema> excellent, thank you

  17:25:40 <gema> balloons: you are up 17:25:53 * balloons ducks

  17:26:06 <balloons> updates from me... 17:26:07 * txomon|nqas ¬¬ wet

  17:27:04 <balloons> I am the new QA community coordinator here at canonical and have been introduced to the team here. I'd like to say hello as well to all of you. 17:27:29 * txomon|nqas says hi!

  17:27:35 <gema> welcome, balloons 17:27:38 * alourie joins txomon|home

  17:27:42 <alourie> welcome balloons

  17:27:44 <jibel> hi balloons

  17:27:44 <charlie-tca> Welcome, balloons

  17:27:48 <balloons> I sent around a post in Decemeber, but I am in the job now and ready to get rolling. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions/concerns/ideas for quality in ubuntu.. I see good things ahead

  17:28:01 <hggdh> welcome balloons also! 17:28:11 * gema is happy that someone is taking over the chairing... because you are balloons .. right?

  17:28:14 <phillw> welcome balloons

  17:28:23 <txomon|nqas> welcome balloons

  17:28:26 <hggdh> balloons is region

  17:28:29 <hggdh> legion

  17:28:53 <balloons> gema, yes I will chair.. I'm sure everyone will take it easy on me while I learn meetbot

  17:29:09 <gema> cool

  17:29:18 <alourie> of course

  17:29:29 * charlie-tca thinks we take it easy on everyone

  17:29:32 <balloons> hggdh, yes! so many personalities, so little time

  17:29:53 <gema> ok

  17:30:10 <gema> so moving on with the agenda (because we have a team dinner today and by the looks of it we are running late :P)

  17:30:25 <gema> [TOPIC] Updates Xubuntu

  17:30:40 <gema> charlie-tca: ?

  17:30:46 <charlie-tca> Xubuntu has the new installer working today, maybe-ubiquity

  17:31:07 <charlie-tca> HAven't really had time to run all the images with it yet, but at least it is working on what I tried

  17:31:22 <gema> that's good news

  17:31:29 <balloons> that's awesome news.. hopefully it will stay stable now

  17:31:32 <charlie-tca> Only realy bug I see is the language screen when choosing "Install Xubuntu" from the cd menu

  17:31:47 <hggdh> do you have a bug on it?

  17:31:59 <charlie-tca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/911905

  17:32:00 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 911905 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection" [High,Confirmed]

  17:32:20 <charlie-tca> ..

  17:32:27 <gema> cool, thanks charlie-tca

  17:32:32 <phillw> it's still there on todays build in lubuntu, charlie-tca I checked b4 the meeting

  17:32:41 <gema> [TOPIC] Updates Lubuntu

  17:32:41 <charlie-tca> Oh, good

  17:33:09 <phillw> nothing too major, except lxpanel eats 100% CPU time, the team are on the case

  17:33:21 <gema> ok

  17:33:27 <phillw> Just for information https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseStatus/Precise is updated weekly by our head of Dev

  17:33:53 <gema> ok, thanks for the info

  17:34:06 <gema> anything else from you?

  17:34:25 <phillw> nothing, our young team are getting stuck in at lubuntu-qa

  17:34:49 <gema> getting stuck?

  17:35:05 <phillw> rolling their sleeves up and working

  17:35:11 <balloons> phillw, that's a cool page

  17:35:15 <gema> ahhh, ok!

  17:35:38 <phillw> balloons: I'll pass the comment on to 'the boss'

  17:36:06 <gema> excellent, so moving on to next topic

  17:36:17 <gema> [TOPIC] Edubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Mithbuntu

  17:36:34 <gema> anyone from any of these releases that wants to give us an update?

  17:36:36 <micahg> hmm, shouldn't that be Mythbuntu?

  17:36:44 <ScottK> It should.

  17:36:47 <leworks> It should

  17:36:48 <phillw> yup

  17:36:50 <alourie> yea

  17:36:53 <balloons> yes, seems nice concise and too the point.. well done

  17:36:54 <gema> yes, I got your attention!!!

  17:36:56 * hggdh agrees

  17:37:00 <gema> ScottK: any update?

  17:37:19 <ScottK> Not from me about any of those (not my thing)

  17:37:43 <gema> ScottK: sorry, I forgot Kubuntu

  17:37:44 <gema>

  17:38:06 <astraljava> Hmmm... I'm not sure we (Ubuntu Studio) have anyone prepared for this meeting.

  17:38:14 <astraljava> I apologize for that.

  17:38:27 <gema> astraljava: no worries, it is good that we get to talk to you

  17:38:35 <gema> astraljava: and start the collaboration today

  17:38:43 <ScottK> Where is the meeting agenda published?

  17:38:43 <astraljava> gema: Yes. I will try to pay more attention from now on.

  17:39:00 <gema> astraljava: excellent, are you guys doing any testing worth mentioning at the moment?

  17:39:15 <astraljava> gema: Not at the moment, there haven't been any big changes.

  17:39:26 <stgraber> I'm also around but I usually post QA relevant stuff for Edubuntu to the release mailing list for our meeting on Friday, don't really have time to attend one more meeting just for QA

  17:39:27 <phillw> ScottK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

  17:39:35 <ScottK> Thanks.

  17:40:38 <gema> astraljava: ok, thanks for the update

  17:40:55 <ScottK> Since Kubuntu isn't on the agenda, I'll just toss in that KDE SC 4.7.4 for oneiric-proposed is uploading out of my laptop right now, so we'll have that on tap for testing once it's built.

  17:41:02 <gema> stgraber: ok, we will try to keep up with your updates there then

  17:41:17 <hggdh> ScottK: perfect. I will be waiting

  17:41:30 <micahg> o/

  17:41:35 <hggdh> s/will be /am/

  17:41:39 <phillw> ScottK: feel free to add kubuntu

  17:41:41 <gema> ScottK: we'll add Kubuntu to the agenda for next week

  17:41:48 <ScottK> OK.

  17:42:15 <stgraber> gema: thanks. If we have anything big that deserves an agenda item for a QA meeting, I'll make sure we do it, for the usual, we closed 2 bugs and everything still installs/upgrades fine, the release mailing-list is fine.

  17:42:17 <gema> [ACTION] balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda 17:42:17 * meetingology balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda

  17:42:25 <gema> stgraber: cool, thanks

  17:42:40 <gema> stgraber: thanks for the update

  17:42:48 <gema> micahg: go ahead

  17:43:17 <micahg> gema: it's not about this, but about Firefox testing, may I continue?

  17:43:27 <gema> micahg: just a sec

  17:43:33 <gema> we are moving to other topics now

  17:43:50 <gema> [TOPIC] Other topics

  17:43:55 <gema> micahg: you can proceed

  17:44:10 <micahg> some background is here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2012-January/001544.html

  17:45:01 <gema> micahg: can you brief us on what you need?

  17:45:02 <micahg> I'll be sending a call for testing e-mail later this evening to ubuntu-qa and some other lists, basically we're migration Firefox in Lucid and Maverick from 3.6.x to Rapid Release (9.0.1 ATM) and we need people to test the packages in -proposed

  17:45:33 <gema> ok, that's good, I am sure someone will be able to undertake the testing

  17:45:49 <gema> micahg: can you make sure that you clearly explain what type of test case you need run?

  17:45:56 <balloons> micahg, does that mean all supported releases will be on rapid release for ff?

  17:46:04 <micahg> balloons: yes

  17:46:19 <micahg> gema: yes, I had forgotten to do that, will add before I send it out later, thanks

  17:46:27 <micahg> ..

  17:46:29 <gema> micahg: thanks

  17:46:59 <gema> anything else from anyone?

  17:47:03 <alourie> o/

  17:47:08 <gema> alourie: go for it

  17:47:11 <alourie> the last, I promise

  17:47:15 <alourie> #ubuntu-quality is being closed and merged into this channel, so there.

  17:47:27 <gema> into ubuntu-meeting?

  17:47:31 <alourie> oops

  17:47:34 <alourie> -testing that is

  17:47:38 <hggdh> indeed

  17:47:42 <gema> cool, thanks

  17:47:49 <alourie> so less duplicates here as well

  17:47:57 <hggdh> thank you for remembering it for the record

  17:47:59 <gema> yes, indeed

  17:48:08 <gema> so we are closing the meeting for the day

  17:48:34 <gema> next week balloons takes over from me the meeting chairing, I will cover for him whenever he is not available and phillw can keep covering whenever none of us is available 17:48:43 * balloons +!

  17:48:44 <gema> if anyone wants to chair, please say so , you are more than welcome 17:48:49 * balloons +1

  17:48:59 <alourie> thanks gema for chairing and have you guys a great dinner

  17:49:09 <alourie> and welcome balloons, again

  17:49:11 <hggdh> a good night to all, then

  17:49:13 <gema> thank you all for coming and for contributing

  17:49:18 <gema> #endmeeting