QATeam/Meetings/QA/20120111

20120111

Meeting started at 17:04:06 UTC. The chair is gema. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-11-17.04.log.html .

Meeting summary

Previous Actions

LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation (patrickmw, 17:08:04) LINK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation (patrickmw, 17:09:29)

Blueprints Updates and Community Tasks

ACTION: alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one (gema, 17:12:11)

Updates Xubuntu

LINK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/911905 (charlie-tca, 17:31:59)

Updates Lubuntu
Edubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Mithbuntu

ACTION: balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda (gema, 17:42:17)

Other topics

Meeting ended at 17:49:18 UTC.

Votes

Action items

alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one
balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda

Action items, by person

alourie
* alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one
balloons
* balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda

People present (lines said)

gema (107)
alourie (45)
balloons (26)
txomon|nqas (17)
phillw (13)
hggdh (12)
charlie-tca (10)
micahg (8)
ScottK (6)
patrickmw (5)
meetingology (5)
astraljava (4)
nuclearbob (4)
jibel (4)
leworks (3)
stgraber (2)
ubottu (1)

Full Log

17:04:06 <gema> #startmeeting
17:04:06 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jan 11 17:04:06 2012 UTC. The chair is gema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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17:04:25 <gema> so who is present today on the meeting? 17:04:42 * txomon|nqas is here 17:04:47 * charlie-tca seems to be here today
17:04:47 <phillw> o/ 17:04:51 * balloons present and accounted for
17:05:09 <jibel> hi o/
17:05:34 * gema is getting everyone to answer
17:05:38 <hggdh> ~Ã´~
17:05:41 <nuclearbob> howdy
17:05:51 <leworks> ~w
17:06:07 <nuclearbob> er
17:06:08 <nuclearbob> szia
17:06:17 <gema> good, let's get started then
17:06:31 <gema> [TOPIC] Previous Actions
17:06:46 <gema> phillw: do we have any pending action from last week?
17:06:58 <phillw> gema: just that one carried over action.
17:07:13 <gema> patrickmw: you created this link, didn't you?
17:07:31 <patrickmw> yes, let me grab that
17:08:04 <patrickmw> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation
17:08:13 <gema> cool, thanks
17:08:30 <alourie> hi there
17:08:44 <gema> hi alourie
17:08:52 <balloons> hello alourie
17:08:56 <gema> alourie: could you make sure that links makes it to the front of our wiki?
17:09:05 <gema> patrickmw: thanks a lot
17:09:06 <alourie> gema: sorry?
17:09:14 <gema> the link that patrickmw just pasted
17:09:23 <gema> with links to all the projects and test code
17:09:29 <patrickmw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Automation
17:09:32 <alourie> ah, sure
17:09:35 <alourie> it's there
17:09:39 <gema> thanks
17:09:41 <patrickmw>
17:09:44 <patrickmw> indeed
17:09:54 <alourie> I will
17:09:54 <gema> so that action is dealt with
17:10:00 <gema> let's move on
17:10:17 <gema> [TOPIC] Blueprints Updates and Community Tasks
17:10:27 <gema> we are going to do the update quickly today
17:10:37 <gema> alourie: do you have any update?
17:11:06 <alourie> gema: I've been working on wiki update, so I can see you and Nicholas have looked at it
17:11:16 <alourie> I am now more happy with the structure and the content
17:11:35 <gema> excellent, we love the changes but are confused by the duality
17:11:37 <alourie> so I think we're ready for feedback and replacing the main page
17:11:40 <gema> so merging it would be good
17:11:47 <alourie> yea
17:11:49 <balloons> alourie, yep, I think so
17:12:04 <balloons> much less confusing now
17:12:07 <alourie> balloons, gema: I just saw the email, will read it later
17:12:11 <gema> [ACTION] alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one 17:12:11 * meetingology alourie to merge the new version of the wiki with the old one
17:12:25 <gema> I like actions
17:12:25 <alourie> btw, is there a way to move complete trees of wiki?
17:12:40 <gema> alourie: I don't think so, but not sure
17:12:43 <alourie> I've been playing with the idea to move some of the Testing/... to QATeam/...
17:12:49 <balloons> alourie, I can dig around and help you with that
17:12:50 <balloons> I was looking into it this afternoon mysel
17:12:52 <balloons> *myself
17:13:06 <alourie> balloons: well, it's wiki, so it kinda should be possible
17:13:12 <balloons> no promises there's an easy way
17:13:22 <balloons> right.. export and import if nothing else
17:13:28 <gema> in any case, we may want to do a copy&paste, whichever way
17:13:40 <alourie> gema, balloons: or we can leave it as it is
17:13:45 <alourie> and just link properly
17:13:56 <alourie> let me work on it a bit
17:14:00 <alourie> and finally
17:14:10 <gema> alourie: you got it, make sure balloons help you with that
17:14:18 <alourie> there's a lot of obsolete stuff there
17:14:24 <gema> alourie: remove it
17:14:26 <alourie> which is no longer relevant
17:14:29 <gema> it is confusing
17:14:32 <alourie> gema: yes, that's my point
17:14:46 <alourie> maybe not remove per se, but "archive" of a sort
17:14:46 <gema> alourie: if you don't feel comfy with it, I will grab the axe 17:14:50 * txomon|nqas laughs
17:14:55 <alourie> gema: oh, don't worry
17:15:04 <gema> alourie: it's a wiki, there's history there
17:15:04 <alourie> I worry that my axe could be too large
17:15:07 <gema> don't worry and remove it
17:15:11 <alourie> gema: sure
17:15:15 <alourie> I'm done
17:15:20 <gema> ok
17:15:21 <alourie> ...
17:15:26 <gema> txomon|nqas: do you have any update?
17:15:43 <txomon|nqas> not refering the wiki
17:15:51 <gema> and referring to anything else?
17:16:23 <txomon|nqas> well, I would like to discuss what we already started discussing in the mail-list
17:16:24 <balloons> alourie, yes in general it's best to not have old content.. just confuses everyone
17:16:41 <alourie> balloons: yea, sure
17:16:59 <balloons> txomon|nqas, the bug report?
17:17:01 <gema> txomon|nqas: you mean the bug?
17:17:12 <txomon|nqas> more meant to be a post, but yes
17:17:23 <alourie> o oh
17:17:27 <gema> txomon|nqas: ok, can we discuss this next week?
17:17:28 <alourie>
17:17:37 <txomon|nqas> oki
17:17:38 <gema> place it in the agenda as an item?
17:17:42 <alourie> gema: please
17:17:47 <gema> or if you prefer, you could answer to my email
17:17:56 <txomon|nqas> I prefer
17:18:08 <alourie> gema: place it to agenda, if we solve it through mail discussion, we'll remove it
17:18:10 <txomon|nqas> don't know if I will be able to be here
17:18:16 <alourie> txomon|home:
17:18:21 <gema> txomon|nqas: ok
17:18:30 <gema> let's do it by email so that everyone benefits from it
17:18:34 <balloons> txomon|nqas, did you have any thoughts on possible action items to take that you wanted feedback on?
17:19:03 <txomon|nqas> I have been testing packages independently
17:19:06 <balloons> otherwise, email should work nicely
17:19:19 <txomon|nqas> and that for example is not quite stable
17:19:31 <txomon|nqas> in gnome packets dependencies missing etc
17:19:36 <gema> txomon|nqas: is this one of the tasks in our current list of things to do?
17:19:42 <gema> or something you'd like to add there?
17:19:48 <txomon|nqas> gema: add
17:19:56 <gema> txomon|nqas: ok, so make the changes on the wiki
17:20:04 <txomon|nqas> will
17:20:20 <alourie> txomon|home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TasksPrecise
17:20:38 <gema> yep
17:20:39 <balloons> you can find that link on the main page now, if you lose it
17:20:49 <txomon|nqas> oki ty
17:21:08 <gema> good, so from next week onwards we'll start working on it
17:21:31 <gema> I will wait for lubuntu and xubuntu updates for charlie-tca and phillw
17:21:39 <gema> so, hggdh any update from you? 17:21:47 * phillw is here 17:21:51 * charlie-tca too
17:22:02 * gema knows, you have your own agenda item
17:22:14 <hggdh> not from me, coming back from vacation
17:22:20 <gema> jibel: ?
17:23:14 <jibel> currently working on upgrades from lucid to precise to make it as smooth as possible
17:23:21 <jibel> not much else to report
17:23:28 <gema> ok, thanks
17:23:35 <gema> leworks:
17:23:36 <gema> ?
17:23:42 <leworks> Nothing from me
17:23:58 <gema> ok, just to let you know, guys, leworks is our new QA Admin
17:24:07 <gema> he knows all about the lab and can run things and fix stuff
17:24:14 <gema> nuclearbob: ?
17:25:08 <nuclearbob> I've sent a number of patches to the qa-regression-testing suite, and I've been working with the kernel team to get autotest tests ported and usable on ubuntu and in the qa lab, particualrly with an eye toward develpping a process to do this in the future with less manual intervention
17:25:30 <gema> excellent, thank you
17:25:40 <gema> balloons: you are up 17:25:53 * balloons ducks
17:26:06 <balloons> updates from me... 17:26:07 * txomon|nqas Â¬Â¬ wet
17:27:04 <balloons> I am the new QA community coordinator here at canonical and have been introduced to the team here. I'd like to say hello as well to all of you. 17:27:29 * txomon|nqas says hi!
17:27:35 <gema> welcome, balloons 17:27:38 * alourie joins txomon|home
17:27:42 <alourie> welcome balloons
17:27:44 <jibel> hi balloons
17:27:44 <charlie-tca> Welcome, balloons
17:27:48 <balloons> I sent around a post in Decemeber, but I am in the job now and ready to get rolling. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions/concerns/ideas for quality in ubuntu.. I see good things ahead
17:28:01 <hggdh> welcome balloons also! 17:28:11 * gema is happy that someone is taking over the chairing... because you are balloons .. right?
17:28:14 <phillw> welcome balloons
17:28:23 <txomon|nqas> welcome balloons
17:28:26 <hggdh> balloons is region
17:28:29 <hggdh> legion
17:28:53 <balloons> gema, yes I will chair.. I'm sure everyone will take it easy on me while I learn meetbot
17:29:09 <gema> cool
17:29:18 <alourie> of course
17:29:29 * charlie-tca thinks we take it easy on everyone
17:29:32 <balloons> hggdh, yes! so many personalities, so little time
17:29:53 <gema> ok
17:30:10 <gema> so moving on with the agenda (because we have a team dinner today and by the looks of it we are running late :P)
17:30:25 <gema> [TOPIC] Updates Xubuntu
17:30:40 <gema> charlie-tca: ?
17:30:46 <charlie-tca> Xubuntu has the new installer working today, maybe-ubiquity
17:31:07 <charlie-tca> HAven't really had time to run all the images with it yet, but at least it is working on what I tried
17:31:22 <gema> that's good news
17:31:29 <balloons> that's awesome news.. hopefully it will stay stable now
17:31:32 <charlie-tca> Only realy bug I see is the language screen when choosing "Install Xubuntu" from the cd menu
17:31:47 <hggdh> do you have a bug on it?
17:31:59 <charlie-tca> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/911905
17:32:00 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 911905 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection" [High,Confirmed]
17:32:20 <charlie-tca> ..
17:32:27 <gema> cool, thanks charlie-tca
17:32:32 <phillw> it's still there on todays build in lubuntu, charlie-tca I checked b4 the meeting
17:32:41 <gema> [TOPIC] Updates Lubuntu
17:32:41 <charlie-tca> Oh, good
17:33:09 <phillw> nothing too major, except lxpanel eats 100% CPU time, the team are on the case
17:33:21 <gema> ok
17:33:27 <phillw> Just for information https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseStatus/Precise is updated weekly by our head of Dev
17:33:53 <gema> ok, thanks for the info
17:34:06 <gema> anything else from you?
17:34:25 <phillw> nothing, our young team are getting stuck in at lubuntu-qa
17:34:49 <gema> getting stuck?
17:35:05 <phillw> rolling their sleeves up and working
17:35:11 <balloons> phillw, that's a cool page
17:35:15 <gema> ahhh, ok!
17:35:38 <phillw> balloons: I'll pass the comment on to 'the boss'
17:36:06 <gema> excellent, so moving on to next topic
17:36:17 <gema> [TOPIC] Edubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Mithbuntu
17:36:34 <gema> anyone from any of these releases that wants to give us an update?
17:36:36 <micahg> hmm, shouldn't that be Mythbuntu?
17:36:44 <ScottK> It should.
17:36:47 <leworks> It should
17:36:48 <phillw> yup
17:36:50 <alourie> yea
17:36:53 <balloons> yes, seems nice concise and too the point.. well done
17:36:54 <gema> yes, I got your attention!!!
17:36:56 * hggdh agrees
17:37:00 <gema> ScottK: any update?
17:37:19 <ScottK> Not from me about any of those (not my thing)
17:37:43 <gema> ScottK: sorry, I forgot Kubuntu
17:37:44 <gema>
17:38:06 <astraljava> Hmmm... I'm not sure we (Ubuntu Studio) have anyone prepared for this meeting.
17:38:14 <astraljava> I apologize for that.
17:38:27 <gema> astraljava: no worries, it is good that we get to talk to you
17:38:35 <gema> astraljava: and start the collaboration today
17:38:43 <ScottK> Where is the meeting agenda published?
17:38:43 <astraljava> gema: Yes. I will try to pay more attention from now on.
17:39:00 <gema> astraljava: excellent, are you guys doing any testing worth mentioning at the moment?
17:39:15 <astraljava> gema: Not at the moment, there haven't been any big changes.
17:39:26 <stgraber> I'm also around but I usually post QA relevant stuff for Edubuntu to the release mailing list for our meeting on Friday, don't really have time to attend one more meeting just for QA
17:39:27 <phillw> ScottK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
17:39:35 <ScottK> Thanks.
17:40:38 <gema> astraljava: ok, thanks for the update
17:40:55 <ScottK> Since Kubuntu isn't on the agenda, I'll just toss in that KDE SC 4.7.4 for oneiric-proposed is uploading out of my laptop right now, so we'll have that on tap for testing once it's built.
17:41:02 <gema> stgraber: ok, we will try to keep up with your updates there then
17:41:17 <hggdh> ScottK: perfect. I will be waiting
17:41:30 <micahg> o/
17:41:35 <hggdh> s/will be /am/
17:41:39 <phillw> ScottK: feel free to add kubuntu
17:41:41 <gema> ScottK: we'll add Kubuntu to the agenda for next week
17:41:48 <ScottK> OK.
17:42:15 <stgraber> gema: thanks. If we have anything big that deserves an agenda item for a QA meeting, I'll make sure we do it, for the usual, we closed 2 bugs and everything still installs/upgrades fine, the release mailing-list is fine.
17:42:17 <gema> [ACTION] balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda 17:42:17 * meetingology balloons to add Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio to the agenda
17:42:25 <gema> stgraber: cool, thanks
17:42:40 <gema> stgraber: thanks for the update
17:42:48 <gema> micahg: go ahead
17:43:17 <micahg> gema: it's not about this, but about Firefox testing, may I continue?
17:43:27 <gema> micahg: just a sec
17:43:33 <gema> we are moving to other topics now
17:43:50 <gema> [TOPIC] Other topics
17:43:55 <gema> micahg: you can proceed
17:44:10 <micahg> some background is here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2012-January/001544.html
17:45:01 <gema> micahg: can you brief us on what you need?
17:45:02 <micahg> I'll be sending a call for testing e-mail later this evening to ubuntu-qa and some other lists, basically we're migration Firefox in Lucid and Maverick from 3.6.x to Rapid Release (9.0.1 ATM) and we need people to test the packages in -proposed
17:45:33 <gema> ok, that's good, I am sure someone will be able to undertake the testing
17:45:49 <gema> micahg: can you make sure that you clearly explain what type of test case you need run?
17:45:56 <balloons> micahg, does that mean all supported releases will be on rapid release for ff?
17:46:04 <micahg> balloons: yes
17:46:19 <micahg> gema: yes, I had forgotten to do that, will add before I send it out later, thanks
17:46:27 <micahg> ..
17:46:29 <gema> micahg: thanks
17:46:59 <gema> anything else from anyone?
17:47:03 <alourie> o/
17:47:08 <gema> alourie: go for it
17:47:11 <alourie> the last, I promise
17:47:15 <alourie> #ubuntu-quality is being closed and merged into this channel, so there.
17:47:27 <gema> into ubuntu-meeting?
17:47:31 <alourie> oops
17:47:34 <alourie> -testing that is
17:47:38 <hggdh> indeed
17:47:42 <gema> cool, thanks
17:47:49 <alourie> so less duplicates here as well
17:47:57 <hggdh> thank you for remembering it for the record
17:47:59 <gema> yes, indeed
17:48:08 <gema> so we are closing the meeting for the day
17:48:34 <gema> next week balloons takes over from me the meeting chairing, I will cover for him whenever he is not available and phillw can keep covering whenever none of us is available 17:48:43 * balloons +!
17:48:44 <gema> if anyone wants to chair, please say so , you are more than welcome 17:48:49 * balloons +1
17:48:59 <alourie> thanks gema for chairing and have you guys a great dinner
17:49:09 <alourie> and welcome balloons, again
17:49:11 <hggdh> a good night to all, then
17:49:13 <gema> thank you all for coming and for contributing
17:49:18 <gema> #endmeeting

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