Technical_2006-02-28
09:00 mdz we'll begin; hopefully Keybuk will join us
09:01 sabdfl https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda
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09:01 mdz I think all of the pending membership applications for ubuntu-core-dev
are invalid
09:01 mjg59 mdz: Matches what I thought
09:01 dholbach mdz: I had no answer back from all of them.
09:01 sabdfl yup
09:01 mdz none of them are MOTUs or had prior contact with the TB about their
applications
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09:02 mdz so I'll decline them all with an appropriate comment
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09:02 sabdfl i'll do that while you guys get stated on MOTU
09:02 mdz ok, thanks
09:02 mdz LaserJock: you're here?
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09:03 mdz glad you could make it at the scheduled time
09:03 LaserJock well, I'm ditching a RL meeting to be here so hopefully I won't get in
too much trouble
09:03 LaserJock ;-)
09:03 mdz daring
09:03 mdz LaserJock: I have your wiki page up, but would you like to summarize in
a few sentences what it's all about for you?
09:04 LaserJock I got started working for MOTU because I had a problem with a package
and I wanted to fix
09:04 LaserJock it
09:04 LaserJock and Ubuntu was the first distro I truly felt a part of the community
and wanted to give back
09:05 LaserJock https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-February/015279.html
is an interview dholbach did of me for the MOTU Report
09:05 sabdfl LaserJock: any suggestions for ways we can boost Utnubu?
09:06 LaserJock sabdfl: I think the biggest thing is getting new MOTU wannabes involved
and making it easy to get in touch with people
09:06 sabdfl ok
09:06 LaserJock most of the old timers know what they are doing or are more "set" in
their ways
09:06 sabdfl great wiki page, btw, very well laid out
09:06 mdz LaserJock: can you tell us a bit about MOTUScience and your goals for
it?
09:07 sabdfl LaserJock: would you be interested in an Ubuntu derivative specifically
for university use?
09:07 LaserJock mdz: My main goal is to make sure that Ubuntu keeps up with Debian, and
where possible provide a pathway for interested scientists to contribute
09:07 mdz LaserJock: in what ways can we make Ubuntu more useful to the science
community?
09:07 LaserJock sabdfl: I'm more interested in making Ubuntu a good desktop for
scientific use rather than a derivative, but Edubuntu is promising
09:08 LaserJock mdz: providing free/open source packages as alternatives to traditional,
expensive, proprietary apps
09:08 sabdfl do you see the scientific community as different from the university
one?
09:08 LaserJock see w.u.c/UbuntuScientists for example
09:08 ogra_ yes, i hopw to work closer with the MOTUScience team for dapper+1, we
want to get other apps in and also provide a more marture set of apps
09:08 ogra_ *hope
09:09 mdz LaserJock: are there many plausible alternatives to proprietary
scientific apps which are not yet available in Ubuntu?
09:09 mjg59 LaserJock: How do you think we can effectively market Ubuntu to
scientists?
sabdfl: in some ways. the scientific community often lives inside the
09:09 LaserJock university, but is more geared towards research instead of education (in
the traditional sense)
09:09 mdz <Keybuk-SMS> Hotel. No Internet Access.
09:10 LaserJock mdz: yes, some. Kyral has been working on FlowDesigner for MOTUScience.
mjg59: By being a great desktop while also being able to provide
09:10 LaserJock scientific packages that are up-to-date, bug free ;-), and getting new
packages in
09:11 sabdfl mdz: is keybuk traveling for you?
09:11 mdz sabdfl: yes
09:11 LaserJock I am particularly interested in people using Ubuntu for writing
dissertations and publications, data analysis,etc.
09:12 LaserJock but a guy in the department yesterday had me get him an Ubuntu disk to
put on his computational cluster because it worked better than SuSE
LaserJock: apart from improving Ubuntu to make it appealing to
09:12 mdz scientists, how can we let them know that it exists and might be useful
to them?
09:12 mjg59 LaserJock: As a final year PhD student myself, I'm very interested in
ways that I can get more people in the community running Ubuntu :)
09:12 sabdfl ok, +1 for LaserJock from me
09:13 mdz LaserJock: who has been sponsoring your uploads so far?
mdz: I think there is a pretty solid scientific base in Ubuntu, I think
09:13 LaserJock marketing Ubuntu as being able to run your science apps + having a good
desktop experience
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09:14 LaserJock mjg59: by making it easy for students/researchers to get there work done
and not getting in the way
being a MOTU, I was actually surprised to learn that LaserJock wasn't a
09:14 lucas MOTU yet. He really did a lot of excellent work inside MOTU, and he has
been around for longer than I have. I very strongly recommend him for
MOTU.
09:14 sistpoty LaserJock has been around for a very long time, and his packaging work
is really good :)
09:14 mdz dholbach: any comments on LaserJock?
mdz: crimsun and \sh did a lot of sponsoring for me but again, crimsun
09:15 LaserJock was unable to make the meeting (I asked him to email dholbach or mdz)
and \sh is sorta away it seems
09:15 dholbach after there was not a real agreement on him in the last TB meeting I had
a look at some of his patches/uploads and they were ok for me
09:15 mdz thanks
09:15 LaserJock Riddell also uploaded my first package from scratch (plotdrop)
09:16 mdz Riddell: around?
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yes, plotdrop was in good shape when I reviewed it, which I think was
09:17 Riddell after a few revisions on revu, so I advocate LaserJock as much as I can
from 1 package
I think the 2 big issues as far as MOTUScience goes is licensing
09:17 LaserJock (getting upstreams to have DFSG free licenses) and bugs (lots of science
apps are poorly maintained)
09:18 mdz mjg59: any further questions?
09:18 LaserJock I hope by organizing interested parties around science related apps we
can help solve those issues
those uploads weren't hardcore-deep-down-fixes, but what I like about
LaserJock is that he tries to organize the MOTU world a bit and I think
09:18 dholbach he'll be an asset for the last-weeks-fixing-up-dappers-universe - and I
like his honesty, I don't think he would upload packages without being
really sure (or having asked others)
09:18 mjg59 Nope, I think the combination of this and last time is good for me
09:19 mdz ok
09:19 mdz +1 from me based on peer recommendations and history of working within
the community
09:19 mjg59 +1 for working on stuff I'd be doing if I had more time
09:20 mdz ;-)
09:20 mdz LaserJock: congratulations and welcome aboard
09:20 dholbach congratulations LaserJock
09:20 sistpoty congrats LaserJock! finally :)
09:20 lucas :-) very good choice to get him in :-)
09:20 mdz I think we had a couple of folks from the last meeting who were deferred
due to lack of time
09:20 LaserJock thanks TB and thanks all the MOTUs and wannabes
09:20 sabdfl well done LaserJock
09:20 mdz is anyone here in that category?
09:21 ogra yay LaserJock !!
09:21 sivang LaserJock: congrets!!
09:21 mdz OK, if not, is there anyone else present who is applying for
ubuntu-dev/MOTU membership/
09:21 mdz s,/,?/
09:21 Tonio_ congrats LaserJock :)
09:22 jpatrick congrats LaserJock :)
09:22 mdz Ivailo Ivanov?
09:22 mdz freeflying?
09:22 jpatrick sleeping
09:23 mdz if not, then we're finished
09:23 mdz with memberships
09:23 mdz is there any other business?
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09:24 ogra looks like we're done ...
09:24 mdz hearing none, adjourned
09:24 dholbach that must have been one of the quickest TB meetings :)
09:24 mdz thanks, everyoneMeetingLogs/Technical_2006-02-28 (last edited 2008-08-06 16:34:49 by localhost)