Technical_2006-02-14
09:01 mdz good morning everyone
09:01 jpatrick good evening
09:01 sivang morning mdz
09:01 raphink hi mdz
09:01 mdz tech board meeting starts now, agenda at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda
09:01 raphink mdz: Tonio (Anthony Mercatante) might be a bit late
09:01 ogra evening
09:02 raphink yop ogra
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I don't think we have any core developer candidates to process; the
09:02 mdz pending memberships in launchpad (apart from Kinnison, who isn't
present) are invalid
09:03 mjg59 mdz: Is it possible to process kinnison in his absence?
09:04 mdz mjg59: I suppose so, if we both agree
09:04 ogra i sponsored an upload for him today if thats worth something
09:04 raphink that would be a great surprise for him :)
09:04 ogra and he wants to grab gnome-powermanager, its would be helpful if he
could upload
09:04 mjg59 He's been an active Debian developer, and we're now entirely dependent
on infrastructure he helped implement
09:05 mdz we're fairly well acquainted at this point
09:05 mjg59 I'm inclined to say that he'd be a valuable and competent member of the
team
09:05 mdz I spent the better part of a week working with him on soyuz
09:06 mdz mjg59: what did you sponsor?
09:06 mjg59 mdz: I haven't sponsored any of his uploads as yet, but I've been
working with him on g-p-m
09:06 ogra mdz, i did ...
09:06 mdz I am somewhat concerned by the fact that he seems to like lua
09:06 ogra mdz, g-p-m
09:06 sivang mdz: ?? :)
09:07 mdz the humour-impaired may disregard my last statement
09:07 sivang hehe
09:07 mjg59 mdz: Oh, christ, yes.
09:07 sivang I doublechecked :)
09:07 mjg59 But anyway, +1 from me.
09:07 elmo he doesn't just like it, he packages it
09:07 ogra mdz, he fixed a sabdfl bug :) #29881 ... so the lid -> lock screen stuff
is done as well ;)
09:07 mjg59 (Unless anyone has any objections)
09:07 mdz mjg59: has he maintained non-lua packages in the past?
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09:07 elmo I object on the basis that perpuating lua is a crime against humanity
09:08 sivang and what about Arannah?
09:08 sivang elmo: LOL
09:08 mdz I don't nkow who Arannah is
09:08 mdz know
09:08 sivang not who,
09:08 sivang what
09:08 sivang ah ops
09:09 sivang disregard that.
09:09 dholbach i think he was in the uploaders list of dbus
09:09 mjg59 Yes, he used to work on dbus (with Daniels)
09:09 mdz oh how confusing
09:10 mjg59 Having lost a Daniel, I feel we need to compensate by adding another
09:10 mdz anyway, there is precedent for both considering someone in absence if we
have sufficient first-hand experience with them, and for 50% quorum
09:10 mdz so I think we can vote
09:10 ogra yay
09:10 mdz s/I think //
09:10 sivang yay
09:11 mjg59 +1 from me
09:11 mdz +1 with intentions to have a serious talk with him about this lua
business
09:11 mjg59 And the beard
09:12 ogra haha
09:12 sivang mdz: given you just said that, note
http://www.digital-scurf.org/software/aranha
09:12 mdz mjg59: will you communicate the decision to him?
09:12 mjg59 mdz: Yup
09:12 mdz thanks
09:12 mdz I've twiddled the launchpad bits
09:13 mdz so in theory he should have upload privileges effective immediately
09:13 ogra note that he's on ubuntu-dev as well ...
09:13 mjg59 Ok. Next set of people?
09:13 mdz yes, that is obsolete
09:13 mdz the motu applicant list is sort of a mess
09:13 ogra yup
09:14 dholbach mdz: Sorry, I'll mail the guys and report back ASAP.
09:14 mdz dholbach: thanks
09:14 dholbach (note the capital letters)
09:14 mdz dholbach: would you be sure to do that before each meeting?
09:14 mdz I can process any improper applications which should be declined for you
09:15 dholbach Yes.
09:15 mdz quickly, is there anyone here in regard to a MOTU application?
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09:15 Tonio_ hi everyone
09:15 LaserJock mdz: I'm Jordan Mantha
09:15 dholbach hi Tonio_
09:15 mdz ok, that's two
=== jpatrick is Jonathan Patrick Davies
09:16 mdz 3
09:16 raphink hi Tonio_
09:16 raphink :)
=== Tonio_ is Anthony Mercatante
09:16 mdz Ivailo Ivanov?
09:16 mdz freeflying?
09:16 mdz ok
09:16 jpatrick not here
09:17 mdz Tonio_ is first up, then
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09:17 mdz Tonio_: so it looks like you're interested in KDE?
09:18 Tonio_ mdz: absolutly ;)
09:18 mdz who has been sponsoring your uploads? Riddell?
09:18 Tonio_ mostly Riddell, but since he is MOTU, raphink uploaded many too
09:18 raphink quite a bit recently yes
09:18 mdz is Riddell here?
09:18 jpatrick was a minute ago
09:19 Riddell I am
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09:19 mdz Riddell: any comments?
09:19 raphink mdz: Tonio_ has been a very active Kubuntu developer for a long time
09:19 Riddell was politely waiting for Tonio_'s 3 line introduction..
09:19 dholbach me too
09:19 Riddell but I fully support Tonio_'s membership of ubuntu-dev
09:19 raphink mdz: I have to confess he was the one introducing me to Ubuntu packages
:)
09:19 mdz I am satisfied with his wiki page intro
09:19 Tonio_ I'm really sorry, but I didn't have the time to prepare a little text
instroducing me...
09:19 mjg59 Tonio_: No problem
09:20 Riddell he's a good packager and fixed some bugs too like the bluez pin issue we
found recently
09:20 mdz Riddell: can you provide any specific feedback on his packaging work,
especially that done under your sponsorship?
09:20 mdz Riddell: you reviewed his uploads carefully?
09:20 raphink Tonio_ has been working on kubuntu default settings lately
09:20 Riddell mdz: yes, I've sponsored a number of his uploads, there's usually
minimal problems with them
09:21 mdz Riddell: can you give us an example of a problem and how it was
resolved?
I reviewed a huge bunch of Tonio_ and he's been there for months,
09:21 dholbach improving them on my requests and adding even more packages. He follows
up quickly and I'm happy with this packaging skills.
09:21 raphink dholbach: + :)
09:21 ogra additionally he seems to be a good guy to help newcomers in #ubuntu-motu
09:22 ogra i saw him often help out on questions ...
http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1145 random example, mateedit,
09:22 Riddell needed to tidy upstream tar file and I'm usually quite strict in asking
for patch names to be in changelogs
09:23 mdz Riddell: so you suggested those corrections and he made them?
09:23 raphink mdz: Tonio_ considers all corrections to packages on REVU
09:23 Riddell mdz: yes
09:23 raphink mdz: and is eager to defend his technical choices when a MOTU is wrong
on a comment, too
09:25 mdz Tonio_: you mention the laptop team on your web page; have you worked
with mjg59 on any projects there?
09:25 mjg59 Not as yet
09:25 mdz oh, I see, that's a future interest
09:25 mjg59 Though it would be good - KDE's lacking some love compared to Gnome
09:26 Tonio_ mdz: I must say not at the moment, cause I never found any problems with
my laptop right now, but it is something I would like to find the to do
09:26 mdz Tonio_: can you tell us about your plans for laptop team participation?
09:26 ogra someone needs to rewrite g-p-m for kde :)
09:26 ogra (probably a bit late for dapper )
09:26 sivang ogra: wait until it's better in dapper for gnome :)
09:26 Riddell ogra: (I'm in contact with the kpowersave developers about improvements
I'd like to have matched funcationality)
09:26 ogra sivang, it already is
09:27 ogra Riddell, ++
09:27 Tonio_ mdz: my plans are limited I must say
09:27 mdz Tonio_: what do you think could be done to improve laptop/power
management integration in KDE?
09:27 ogra sivang, now that Kinnison cares actively for it :)
09:27 sivang ogra: rock :)
I don't have many laptops, just one, so unsuring that the compatibility
09:27 Tonio_ with that specific model is okay, and certainly adding an entry on the
wiki
09:28 Tonio_ but that is quite limited, indeed
09:28 mjg59 Tonio_: Would you be interested in working on more general support, even
if you can't test it all?
09:28 raphink I think Tonio_ 's main interest in really Kubuntu right now
09:29 raphink s/in/is/
09:29 mdz raphink: he can speak to his own interests, surely
09:29 Tonio_ mjg59: that could be interesting, although there are software dedicated
to laptops that could/should be integrated
09:29 raphink sure mdz :)
09:29 ogra raphink, kubuntu needs powermanagement help and i guess Riddell would be
happy if someone can help out
09:29 Tonio_ I discussed on powersave with riddell recently about that
09:29 mjg59 Tonio_: Ok, cool
09:30 mjg59 Tonio_: Unrelatedly, have any of the tools you've packaged been uploaded
to Debian since you first packaged them?
but has raphink was saying, my main priority is more kubuntu than
09:30 Tonio_ anything else, and if specific things can be done for kubuntu on the
laptop part, I would take pleasure wokirng on it
09:31 Tonio_ mjd59, I didn't personally performed the debian submission, but I know
certain packages have been included to debian by the utnubu team
09:32 mjg59 Tonio_: Once that happens, do you continue packaging new upstream
releases or do you start syncing from Debian?
09:32 Tonio_ generally, when a package gets into debian, and that I am not the
maintainer, I don't continue the packaging stuff
09:33 Tonio_ ubutu's main purpose is to be synched to debian, I think
09:33 Tonio_ but if the debian package is the one I did for ubuntu, I continue
maintaining it, of course
09:33 Tonio_ packaging an application isn't a "one time" stuff
09:34 mjg59 Tonio_: Ok, cool
09:35 mdz Tonio_: Ubuntu's _main_ purpose is to be a high-quality free operating
system, though coordinating with our upstreams is also important ;-)
09:35 mdz mjg59: I'm finished, you?
09:35 Tonio_ mdz: sure ;)
09:36 mjg59 mdz: I think so
09:36 mdz ok, votes
09:37 mdz +1, based on positive feedback from existing motu and core developers
and a substantial history of packaging contributions
09:38 sivang phew, /me thought MOTU applications just got alot harder :)
09:38 mjg59 +1 for me
09:38 raphink sivang: indeed ;)
09:38 mdz Tonio_: congratulations and welcome
09:38 sivang raphink: this is for main right?
09:38 ogra sivang, we're still waiting for you :)
09:38 raphink welcome aboard Tonio_ :)
09:38 raphink sivang: not even ;)
09:38 ogra welcome Tonio_ !
09:38 Tonio_ thanks very much !
09:39 ogra next ?
09:39 dholbach congratulations Tonio_!
09:39 allee Tonio_: congrats
09:39 Tonio_ I hope not to deceive you
09:39 mdz jpatrick: you're next; would you like to introduce yourself?
09:39 Tonio_ allee: thanks :)
09:39 jpatrick Yes, thank you I wrote sometime up
09:39 mdz your wiki page is informative, but feel free to summarize here
I started MOTU and packaging things when people started asking for
packages at the Kubuntu Forums about five months ago, that's when I
decided to give it a try. My work can be found at my wikipage (
09:39 jpatrick https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatrickDavies ). While doing my first packages,
I discovered REVU and started helping out, I've placed some notes on the
KubuntuPackagingGuide at the wiki. I only did a few merges (kmymoney2
and kxdock
lp people on #ubuntu-motu by reviewing their packages on IRC (with no
09:39 jpatrick power to upload or advocate on REVU (kblogger for example)). I plan to
help out with MOTU KDE/Kubuntu (most of my packages begin with the
letter K).
09:40 mdz jpatrick: it looks like your message was truncated
09:40 mdz I received:
09:40 mdz I only did a few merges (kmymoney2 and kxdoc
09:40 mdz <jpatrick> lp people on #ubuntu-motu
09:40 ogra yeah, the mid part ...
09:40 mdz (nothing between)
09:41 jpatrick sorry, one second
I started MOTU and packaging things when people started asking for
09:41 jpatrick packages at the Kubuntu Forums about five months ago, that's when I
decided to give it a try. My work can be found at my wikipage (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatrickDavies ).
While doing my first packages, I discovered REVU and started helping
09:41 jpatrick out, I've placed some notes on the KubuntuPackagingGuide at the wiki. I
only did a few merges (kmymoney2 and kxdocker, I think). I helped fix a
YaKuake bug sometime ago.
I help people on #ubuntu-motu by reviewing their packages on IRC (with
09:41 jpatrick no power to upload or advocate on REVU (kblogger for example)). I plan
to help out with MOTU KDE/Kubuntu (most of my packages begin with the
letter K).
09:42 dholbach jpatrick: are you an Ubuntu member already?
09:42 jpatrick dholbach: yes
09:42 mdz jpatrick: who has been sponsoring your work so far?
09:42 dholbach Ok.
09:42 jpatrick mdz: Riddell's done all my uploads
09:42 mjg59 Riddell: How do you feel about the quality of the packages?
09:43 Riddell mjg59: his packages often need some work, but he's very responsive to
fixing any problems
09:44 mdz Riddell,jpatrick: I wasn't aware of KubuntuPackagingGuide until now; how
did it originate?
09:44 raphink jpatrick is quite active in Ubuntu, and learns fast
09:45 jpatrick mdz: was created some time ago to help get people packaging
09:45 mdz jpatrick: by whom?
09:45 raphink mdz: I think JRE created it
09:45 allee JRe
09:45 jpatrick mdz: Riddell, JRe
09:45 Riddell it was JRe I think
09:45 raphink :)
09:46 ogra is JRe still active ? havent seen him for a while
09:46 raphink and JRe is not even here ;)
09:46 mjg59 Well, consistency is good :)
09:46 jpatrick ogra: he's mostly doing KDE work
09:46 raphink ogra: yes he's active
09:46 ogra ah
09:46 Riddell ogra: he's very active, e.g. just wrote Keep as a new backup tool for
Kubuntu
09:46 raphink ogra: JRe is busy on keep and katapult lately ;)
09:46 mdz jpatrick: which of the packages on your page did you create based on
upstream software, and which are packages you contributed changes to?
09:46 ogra oh, cool
09:48 jpatrick mdz: only packages I've done from scracth is ksplash-engine-moodin
09:48 jpatrick and kcontrol-kdetheme
09:48 raphink jpatrick: where did others come from?
09:49 jpatrick raphink: they were built up from Debian/Ubuntu files with new upstream
releases
09:52 mdz is there anyone else present who has first-hand experience working with
jpatrick who would like to speak?
09:52 raphink well if I might add something to that
09:52 jpatrick allee has been helping me with kmplayer
09:52 raphink I'd say I've seen the quality of his packages improve on REVU
09:52 raphink although sometimes more checks would be nicer
09:53 raphink but overall it ends up in pretty good stuff :)
09:53 mdz is there any way to get a history of all REVU activity for a particular
user?
09:53 mdz that would be useful
09:53 raphink indeed
09:53 raphink mdz: grepping the motu-reviewers mailing list might help
09:54 ogra mdz, afaik thats planned for revu2 ... it was in the spec at ubz iirc
09:54 mdz I see
09:55 mdz jpatrick: what do you like most about working with the MOTU team?
09:55 atie I'd hope to see what mdz saying from launchpad
09:56 dholbach http://tauware.de/pipermail/motu-reviewers (unfortunately it doesn't
have people in the message subjects)
09:56 mdz dholbach: any particular reason why that list isn't on lists.ubuntu.com?
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09:56 dholbach mdz: siretart and sistpoty set it up as a quick solution (until revu2
was there)
09:56 jpatrick mdz: to be honest I'm not too sure
09:57 mdz jpatrick: well, why do you do it? ;-)
09:57 jpatrick mdz: I like the feeling of helping out and developing
09:58 mdz jpatrick: based on your experience, do you have any ideas about how the
team could work more effectively?
09:59 jpatrick mdz: more revu-ing on KDE packages
09:59 mjg59 Heh
09:59 mjg59 jpatrick: Do you feel that KDE packages are held to the same standards
as Gnome ones right now?
09:59 mdz jpatrick: meaning what? there aren't enough reviewers to keep up with
packages needing review?
10:00 jpatrick mdz: only Riddell and raphink really do KDE revu
10:00 jpatrick mjg59: yes
10:00 mdz I think the best solution to that is to recruit more KDE contributors,
who will gain experience and participate in review
10:01 mdz fortunately there seems to be strong interest in this area recently ;-)
10:01 jpatrick :)
10:01 atie mdz, yes users love kubuntu too.
10:02 allee jpatrick: if non motu could comment on revu, it would be better ;)
10:02 raphink allee: you can send your comments to MOTUs, they will sponsor them
10:02 ogra allee, that could quickly get messy ...
10:02 ogra the way raphink describes leaves at least some control
I don't see any reason why non-motu shouldn't be able to comment, so
10:03 mdz long as it was clear from the comment whether the person is a registered
developer or not
10:03 allee ogra: sending e-mails or irc is not better (btw. siretart said it on
revu2 list)
10:04 Tonio_ raphink, although it is an exception, was commenting on REVU before
beeing MOTU
10:04 ogra allee, afaik revu2 is planned to be included into launchpad ... there we
have account management etc ...
10:04 mdz ok, we're getting a bit sidetracked into REVU discussion
10:04 ogra yup...
10:05 ogra and we already met the 1h mark
10:05 mdz jpatrick: can you tell us a bit about kubuntu-es.org and your goals
there?
10:06 jpatrick mdz: first thing is get the site back and try to encourage the kubuntu
spanish community to do some contributions :)
10:08 mjg59 jpatrick: Is there a strong Spanish KDE community?
10:08 jpatrick mjg59: yes
10:08 mdz jpatrick: how can we encourage more developer interest in that
community?
10:08 jpatrick might be going to aKademy-es
10:09 jpatrick I could translate the MOTU guides for packagers, etc
10:10 mjg59 jpatrick: What distributions are currently popular in Spain?
10:10 mjg59 (Especially KDE based ones)
10:11 jpatrick I know some OpenSuse users and there's a crowd that's always in
#kubuntu-es
10:11 mjg59 jpatrick: So, how do you think we can get hold of all the OpenSuse
users? :)
10:11 jpatrick mjg59: the one i know used Kubuntu
10:11 mjg59 jpatrick: Heh
10:12 mdz jpatrick: does opensuse offer particular advantages to the Spanish
community?
10:12 jpatrick not that I know of :)
10:13 mjg59 jpatrick: What sort of community contributions do you envisage?
10:14 jpatrick envisage?
10:14 mjg59 Imagine in the future
10:15 jpatrick Translations, more packages and maybe more support at the forums
10:15 mjg59 Ok
10:15 jpatrick and some coding for Kubuntu express maybe
=== Riddell notes that the University of La Laguna are making a kubuntu derivative
distribution
10:15 Riddell and want to help with kubuntu express
10:16 mjg59 Riddell: Good news
10:16 mjg59 jpatrick: So do you feel happy with your packages being used by
(potentially) millions of people?
10:16 jpatrick mjg59: I feel happy that they're happy :)
10:17 mdz we need to move on, any further questions?
10:17 mjg59 I think I'm ok.
10:17 jpatrick without having to compile the programs (which sometimes problems.)
10:18 mdz ok, votes
10:19 mdz +1 based on positive feedback on contributions to packages and developer
resources
10:20 mjg59 +1 for me, though with faint concern over package quality in the past
10:20 mjg59 But it sounds like you're dealing with that, so no problem
10:20 mdz jpatrick: it wouldn't hurt to continue to participate in package reviews
10:20 jpatrick yes, I plan to help the kde packages :)
10:20 mdz extra eyes are always a good idea even for experienced developers
10:20 mdz jpatrick: anyway, congratulations
10:21 jpatrick thanks
10:21 Riddell I hope he'll revu lots more in future, Tonio_ too :)
10:21 Tonio_ jpatrick: congrats ;)
10:21 ogra congrats jpatrick
10:21 allee congrats jpatrick
10:21 Tonio_ Riddell: that's on my plans ;)
10:21 sivang congrets jpatrick
10:21 dholbach congratulations jpatrick
10:21 raphink congratulations jpatrick :)
10:21 dholbach !!!REVU DAY TOMORROW!!!
10:21 raphink welcome aboard :)
10:21 jpatrick thanks everyone :)
10:21 dholbach :-)
10:21 raphink dholbach: yeah :)
10:21 Tonio_ dholbach: I'll be there ;)
10:22 jpatrick count me in!
10:22 dholbach ROCK! :)
10:22 Kyral hmm REVU Day tomorrow..I should get a package uploaded soon then...
10:22 mdz LaserJock: you're up
10:22 LaserJock mdz: thanks
I'm a PhD physical chemistry student that has been hanging out with the
10:22 LaserJock MOTU since about August. I am very interested in both good documentation
for MOTUs and wannabes and also looking after science related packages
in Universe.
I am a member of the documentation team and am the lead writer of the
10:22 LaserJock Ubuntu Packaging Guide (very alpha at this point, but should be ready
for Dapper).
10:23 LaserJock https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide
10:23 LaserJock http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
I also started the MOTU Science team to try focus some effort on science
10:23 LaserJock related packages in Universe. I broadly define science related as
packages in the math, science, and tex sections. About 450 source
packages in all.
10:23 LaserJock https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Science
10:23 LaserJock sorry if that is a little too much
10:24 LaserJock also, dholbach did an interview of me for the MOTU report at
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-February/015279.html
10:24 mjg59 LaserJock: So what have you been packaging so far?
mjg59: I package plotdrop (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1344)
10:25 LaserJock from scratch and it is now in Debian and I also took over a Debian ITP
for gausssum and it is now in unstable
10:25 LaserJock I did ~ 10 merges for dapper and a few for Breezy
10:25 mjg59 LaserJock: Excellent
10:25 mjg59 Who's sponsored your uploads?
10:25 LaserJock I'm starting a run through the science related packages
10:26 LaserJock crismun, \sh, and bddebian (for breezy) are my main sponsors but they
don't seem to be available
10:26 LaserJock azeem is my debian sponsor
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10:26 LaserJock I haven't had any complaints so far about my packaging. All of my merges
were accepted without changes
10:26 ogra_ibook grmbl
10:27 Riddell LaserJock: have you looked at the KubuntuPackagingGuide page mentioned
earlier? can it be merged into the Ubuntu Packaging Guide?
10:27 LaserJock Riddell: yes, I have a section outlined for it
10:27 mjg59 LaserJock: Scientific programs are often licensed under bizarre non-free
licenses. How's your legalese?
10:27 mdz LaserJock: it helps us a lot to hear from people who have reviewed your
packages first-hand
=== ogra is eager to grab some of the packages from LaserJock for dapper+1 edubuntu ;)
10:27 mdz since we don't have time to do such a comprehensive review during the
meeting
10:27 azeem the package I sponsored was well done, albeit not extremely difficult
either.
10:27 LaserJock mdz: I understand
10:28 mdz LaserJock: do you think you could arrange for them to attend the next
meeting, or perhaps send us some email with their thoughts?
10:28 azeem I am very impressed by LJ's pursuit for MOTUScience and working together
with Debian
10:28 sistpoty LaserJock has been around for a long time, and often hangs around in
-motu... his packaging skills (to what I've seen) are good
10:28 raphink :)
mjg59: my leagalese isn't great but I've had to deal with some over in
10:28 LaserJock the doc team. Science packages are tought that way. debian-science is
working on form emails for asking upstream for better licenses
10:28 jjesse and he is doing a great job on the packagin guide along with contrib to
other doc team stuff
10:29 raphink LaserJock is often around, he's helpful and makes good packages :)
=== sivang notes he was pleases to see the packaging guide taking form, something he
wisehd for since no-name-yet.com days.
10:29 mjg59 LaserJock: That sounds extremely worthwhile
10:29 sivang s/pleases/pleased/
10:29 LaserJock I'm working on good relations with debian-science
10:30 LaserJock I somewhat naively sent an email about MOTU Science.
10:30 LaserJock I got a lot of good feedback with some not-so-welcom feedback as well
10:30 mdz sistpoty,raphink: have either of you sponsored his uploads?
10:30 LaserJock but I was able to show the DDs what I was up to and satisfied most
10:31 raphink mdz: no, I've reviewed some of his packages iirc, but never sponsored
any
10:31 dholbach I can't remember, if I looked at any.
10:31 sistpoty mdz: no, I didn't sponsor any packages either, at least not that I could
remember
10:32 LaserJock I really wish crimsun could have made it
10:32 mdz LaserJock: would you mind deferring to the next meeting? we've run a
bit long, and it would be beneficial for your sponsors to attend
10:32 LaserJock mdz: I don't mind
10:33 mdz LaserJock: I appreciate it
10:33 mdz is freeflying here?
10:33 mdz he proposed a discussion item
10:33 mdz but I don't think he's here
10:33 atie mdz, he isn't here
10:34 atie mdz, but I can speak up for the item.
10:34 jpatrick mdz: he is sleeping
10:34 atie and ok with next meeting too
10:34 mdz atie: if we could defer, so that freeflying can participate and we have
more time, that would be good
10:34 mdz atie: if it's urgent, feel free to send me mail and we can discuss that
way as well
10:34 atie mdz, no problem
10:35 mdz atie: thanks, will you communicate that to freeflying as well?
10:35 atie mdz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BetterCJKSupportSpecification/FontConfig
atie: It would probably be helpful if it could be written up in a little
10:35 mjg59 more detail - I didn't get a good idea what the issue was from the
thread
10:35 atie mjg59, I agree.
10:35 atie but can we make a channel with someone in core dev?
10:36 atie to discuss detail before meeting
10:36 Riddell freeflying said huahua would speak for it, I've just pinged him
10:36 mdz atie: sure
10:36 mdz atie: feel free to ping me anytime before the next meeting
10:36 atie mdz, could you let me know whom?
10:36 atie mdz, sure
10:37 mdz atie: ok, thanks
10:37 mdz I think we need to adjourn
10:37 mdz please mail me about anything which can't wait until the next meeting
10:37 mdz thanks, everyoneMeetingLogs/Technical_2006-02-14 (last edited 2008-08-06 16:23:53 by localhost)