20100803
Meeting opened by mhall119 at 23:59
<mhall119> okay, I'm chairing today's meeting instead of itnet7, but he's still here
<patx> im here
<mhall119> tonight's agenda can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Meetings#Agenda
<mhall119> if anybody wants to add something to it, go ahead and do it now
<mhall119> [TOPIC] UDS-N (11.04) Will be held in Orlando, Oct 25-29. Plan team participation.
UDS-N (11.04) Will be held in Orlando, Oct 25-29. Plan team participation.
<cjohnston> yay
<mhall119> in case some of you haven't heard the news, the next Ubuntu Developer Summit will be held right here in Florida
crashsystems hopes he can go
<itnet7> crashsystems: it isn't close enough for ya? (j/k)
<mhall119> UDS is a twice-yearly gathering of Canonical employees and community developers, where the focus of the next Ubuntu version is mapped out
<mhall119> it's a great opportunity for all of to attend at minimal expense
<X-Man> Can non developers go?
<mhall119> yes
<cjohnston> yes
<mhall119> as far as I know, attendence is free and open to anybody
<MichelleQ1> heck, I'm planning on being there.
http://uds.recreantview.org/ has some preliminary information |
<mhall119> http://uds.recreantview.org/ has some preliminary information
<itnet7> That is true, but you should make sure that you register when it's available on LP please!
<mhall119> sponsorship is available to community members, but it's merit based and there's a limited number of sponsorships
<mhall119> several of our members have been to previous UDSs, like itnet7, dantalizing and cjohnston
<mhall119> then can give you first-hand accounts for how awesome it is
<mhall119> so if you can make it, all week or just a day or too, it would certainly be worthwhile
<mhall119> you'll also be able to meet people like Mark Shuttleworth, Jono Bacon and other big names in Ubuntu
<itnet7> OMG it's practically next to where FLS was held lol
<cjohnston> and me..
<MichelleQ1> itnet7: the facility is *really* nice
<mhall119> if anybody from the north or south of the state is planning on driving, let others know so you can carpool
<mhall119> at our next irregularly scheduled meeting, I'd like to start gathering a list of who in our team is going, and how they're getting there
chaynie pops into existence.
<mhall119> to make sure we have as many participants as want to attend
<mhall119> hey chaynie
<itnet7> The meeting schedule is posted above the agenda for the rest of the year
<mhall119> itnet7: I'll believe it when it happens
<chaynie> what did I miss?
<chaynie> wrt: the meeting.
<mhall119> if anybody has any ideas for activities or anything we can do as a team as a part of UDS, lets start thinking about them and bring them up next meeting
<mhall119> chaynie: takling about UDS
<crashsystems> is there anything loco teams typically do in regards to uds?
<MichelleQ1> we need to rock some kind of afterparty, or some such.
<chaynie> mhall119: ah, ok
<mhall119> one of us will post links to register when they're available
<mhall119> crashsystems: good question, itnet7 what's your experience onthat?
<itnet7> Attend, give ideas, and follow through when asked to do something
<dantalizing> mornig sorry i'm late
<itnet7> and have a lot of fun!
<itnet7> MichelleQ1: usually on the last night of UDS there is an all-stars night, Food, Music and libations
<mhall119> itnet7: were there any local loco specific activities at past UDS's?
<mhall119> like a host activity?
<itnet7> mhall119: not really that I can recall, they held a team meeting in one of the conference rooms
<mhall119> again, as you think of ideas, put them on the agenda for next week's meeting
<dantalizing> morning erictee
<chaynie> mhall119 itnet7: I think we should start that tradition. Maybe have a welcome to orlando party for uds attendees?
<itnet7> In Barcelona, they hung out a lot with everyone but there were like 5 team members for the catalan team
<mhall119> chaynie: that's what I was thinking too
<dantalizing> itnet7: what do you think about hitting up jorge to have the loco be crew for this uds
<dantalizing> we certainly have enough people who i'm thinking will volunteer
<erictee> hi all
<mhall119> dantalizing: does crew get to participate in the sessions?
<dantalizing> mhall119: depends on the job ... mostly though
<itnet7> dantalizing: I don't think it's a bad idea, but for most of our team it will be their first time
<dantalizing> good point
<mhall119> it'd be nice if some of your Orlando guys would help out-of-town(state, country) folks find their way around town too
<itnet7> I think we can definitely come up with some cool ideas on things to do off-site, and list many good recommended places to go
mhall119 knows how to get from one side of Orlando to the other via I-4
<MichelleQ1> I'll be happy to serve as crew, since I won't participate in the sessions anyway. That is, assuming I can rummage up some kid-care for the chirrens.
<itnet7> so that they get good deals, and eat good food, etc.
<chaynie> mhall119: I'll be happy to do what I can. I'm planning to take that week off.
<cjohnston> MichelleQ1: I think there will be quite a few sessions for you.
<mhall119> I'm sure there will be a community track again this time, so even if you're not a developer, please try and attend those as representative members of the community
cjohnston has all of Oct. and Nov. off for UDS
<cjohnston> lol
<mhall119> cjohnston: and nov?
<mhall119> that's some after party
<itnet7> Crew Does get a T-shirt so it's not all that bad and it's usually only one days duty
<cjohnston> lol.. When I took the time off, I didn't know when it was...
<mhall119> itnet7: do you think it would be worth having a FloridaTeam/UDS-N wiki page?
<itnet7> Sure!
<mhall119> who wants to make a wiki page?
<cjohnston> I can
<mhall119> [TOPIC] Change LoCo Birthday Bash to correspond with UDS-N?
Change LoCo Birthday Bash to correspond with UDS-N?
<mhall119> so, we had been planning on holding the second annual LoCo Birthday Bash in the first week or November
<mhall119> but now I'm wondering if we should move it up a week to coincide with UDS
<mhall119> or push it back to give us all a chance to recover from UDS
<mhall119> if we move it up, I'm thinking we do it the Sunday before UDS starts
<mhall119> as most attendees will be in town by then, and can join if they want to
<itnet7> mhall119: just my opinion but I would move it back, Too much stuff is going to be ge going on around that time... just my opinion
<mhall119> and our members who can't make UDS during the week, would still have a chance to hang out with some of them
<chaynie> mhall119: it would make an excellent uds pre-party.
<mhall119> we couldn't do it at my house again, we were at capacity last year as it was
<mhall119> but I was thinking a gathering in Orlando somewhere
<mhall119> at a park or something
<mhall119> I'd be happy to bring BBQ along
<itnet7> OMG
<itnet7> that would be cool
<chaynie> Have they announced where in orlando uds is being held? By disney? or possibly near the airport?
<itnet7> if we could have a geeknic
<itnet7> lol
<mhall119> chaynie: http://uds.recreantview.org/travel/
<mhall119> close to disney
<MichelleQ1> itnet7: if we want to do a geeknic the sunday before, I'll start planning now
<cjohnston> 535 and I drive area chaynie
<mhall119> cjohnston: know of any good parks around there where we can reserve a pavillion?
<cjohnston> not down there I dont
<cjohnston> I can talk to Hope
<mhall119> ok
<itnet7> MichelleQ1: I am not sure, I think it would Rock and a lot of people would be here in time as most of them will arrive on Saturday usually
<mhall119> itnet7: she wasn't disagreeing
<cjohnston> main problem is gonna be food imo
<chaynie> Turkey lake park
<chaynie> is nearby
<mhall119> cjohnston: I can bring a host of meats
<chaynie> well, like 10-15 minutes away, but still
<itnet7> mhall119: I didn't mean it in a bad way
<mhall119> okay, so tentatively let's plan for a geeknic on the 24th of October, details to come, I'll add it to loco.ubuntu.com
<itnet7> I was just thinking that it might really be a good idea considering that most of them should have arrived, we would at least get a good percentage of community members to come
<cjohnston> my suggestion would be that as the UDS page foms (not the Florida UDS page but the regular one) start getting an interest level from the attending community
<mhall119> itnet7: definitely
<dantalizing> would be cool to bill this as us (florida loco) throwing uds attendees a party
<dantalizing> imo
<mhall119> dantalizing: +1
<mhall119> [ACTION] mhall119 to add Florida Team welcome geeknic to loco.ubuntu.com
mhall119 to add Florida Team welcome geeknic to loco.ubuntu.com |
<itnet7> Do you want to see if we can rent a hall instead?
<MichelleQ1> Alright, I'm gonna ask the pointed question. How does everyone propose we go about paying for this shin dig?
<mhall119> itnet7: might get costly
<dantalizing> i'm in to contribute
<cjohnston> that was what I was getting at with my comment about food
<mhall119> I'm in to contribute some BBQ, or purchase hot dogs and hamburgers or something
<MichelleQ1> My main concern is renting a location first and foremost.
<chaynie> would a $5 cover for acceptable?
<mhall119> if other people are willing to bring sides and drinks, we've got that covered, and we just need a venue
<chaynie> just throwing it out there.
<dantalizing> no cover
<crashsystems> do parks cost money?
<mhall119> not much of a welcome party if we charge admission
<itnet7> +1 dantalizing
<cjohnston> crashsystems: I don't believe so
<mhall119> crashsystems: reserving a spot sometimes does
<MichelleQ1> crashsystems renting the pavillion usually does
<itnet7> If we can get a ball park Idea of cost, we can try and raise some support
<mhall119> I like that idea
<itnet7> I would chip-in
<MichelleQ1> I'll start doing some calling this wee
<MichelleQ1> week
<MichelleQ1> even
<cjohnston> With Orange County parks.. IIRC.. Pavillions are first come first serve, and no cost.. but dont quote me
<dantalizing> cool
<mhall119> can we designate someone with a paypal account to handle reservations, and have people send them money?
<cjohnston> We did Paige's first party at one, and thats how it was
<dantalizing> we can send mhall119 to camp out
<MichelleQ1> I'm wondering if we can get a ballroom at the hotel, on the off chance we can afford it
<mhall119> cjohnston: +1. dantalizing -1
<itnet7> We might be able to ask Canonical for one of the ballrooms On Sunday evening!
<MichelleQ1> itnet7: I like the way you think
<itnet7> and provide Pizza, and a Geek Movie!
<mhall119> itnet7: do you think they'll have them Sunday?
<cjohnston> mhall119 camping +1
<dantalizing> MichelleQ1: ask!
<MichelleQ1> will do
<cjohnston> itnet7: that could be cool.. if they have them
<crashsystems> itnet7: Hackers perhaps?
<itnet7> I think they might
<dantalizing> gag
<dantalizing> hackers
<crashsystems> lol
<mhall119> itnet7: whom in Canonical should we ask about that?
<itnet7> crash and burn!
<chaynie> pssh, the only true geek movie is "the net".
<crashsystems> Hack The Planet!
<itnet7> mhall119: I can e-mail Maria
<mhall119> itnet7: thanks
<dantalizing> somethign else to check
<itnet7> or even you can if you want to
<itnet7> not maria
<MichelleQ1> itnet7: give her my contact info, we'll go from there
<itnet7> Marianna
<mhall119> [ACTION] itnet7 to email Maria about using a ballroom for a host party
itnet7 to email Maria about using a ballroom for a host party |
<mhall119> too late
<cjohnston> There were a couple of hotels that I was wishing it would be at because of their like for the fire department. but we arent at them
<itnet7> It's okay I know who
<dantalizing> canonical may be doing all hands the week before in orlando ...
<dantalizing> need to check with zoopster/statik
<mhall119> dantalizing: really?
<mhall119> I thought they just had one of those in Prague
<cjohnston> they did in belgium
<dantalizing> mhall119: they have in the past
<cjohnston> forgot about that
<mhall119> oh, ok
<itnet7> they don't have it every time, so let's doublecheck
<crashsystems> IIRC they do that before every UDS
<mhall119> well, if they can spare the space, everyone's invited
<crashsystems> oh, nvm
<itnet7> crashsystems: they didn't in Texas is what I'm going by
<crashsystems> ok
<itnet7> but you never know
<itnet7>
<mhall119> anything else on this topic before we move on?
<mhall119> [TOPIC] Establish some kind of rules for selecting meeting chairs, team contacts and team admins
Establish some kind of rules for selecting meeting chairs, team contacts and team admins
<mhall119> so, our team has grown and changed quite a bit since I joined almost 2 years ago
<dantalizing> lies
<mhall119> and for the most part, a lot of the responsibility of leadership and organizing has still be placed on a small number of people
<mhall119> and it's no small burden, I know
<mhall119> we need to establish some rules for distributing that responsibility among the rest of us
<mhall119> itnet7 has mentioned in the past a desire for rotating meeting chairs
<chaynie> I think we should probably cycle leadership responsibility around, to prevent burnout.
<mhall119> which is part of the reason why I'm chairing tonight's meeting
<chaynie> lol
<mhall119> we also have a loco point of contact, which has been itnet7 for probably about as long as the team's been around
<chaynie> How about an annually elected chair position?
<mhall119> and multiple team admins, who have extra control over things like the launchpad group and loco.ubuntu.com details
<mhall119> chaynie: that's what we need to work out, how often to hold elections, who's eligible as a candidate, who's eligible to vote, etc
<mhall119> itnet7: dantalizing: do you guys know how this is handle in other teams, and how well those processes work?
<dantalizing> different teams handle things differently ... they all do what works for them
<mhall119> chaynie: for meeting chairs I'd rather cycle more frequently than say, the contact or admins
<itnet7> mhall119: usually a contact steps down when they are ready, with that being said, I would just appreciate some help
<dantalizing> some teeams have had to institute formal procedures because member complained abot one thing or another
<dantalizing> other teams quietly work together
<itnet7> and ideas on how to do things more efficiently
<MichelleQ1> the u-w team has just elected a triumvirate, who share leadership responsibilites.
<mhall119> I'd like to see set elections, if for no other reason than to give the current leaders an opportunity to decline another cycle
<mhall119> our team doesn't really need much in the way of direction, our leadership is more about maintenance I think
<chaynie> MichelleQ1: Because history has shown triumvirates to work out well.
<MichelleQ1> chaynie: hey, wasn't my idea. just how they do it.
<MichelleQ1> i'd strongly suggest elections over appointments.
<mhall119> I'm more interested in a point of contact for the loco-council, and admins to maintain LP and LD information
<chaynie> mhall119: well, maybe we cycle meeting chair monthly, and team admin annually or bi-annually?
<mhall119> chaynie: that's kind of what I was thinking
<mhall119> we have 4 admins, currently
<mhall119> we can set them on 4-year cycles, voting on one a year, unless one wants to step down
<dantalizing> i think we should have this discussion f2f ... becuase any disagreemnet i have is gonna come off sounding self-serving
<dantalizing> but i'll throw this out
<mhall119> dantalizing: a good idea
<dantalizing> i'm against popularity contests, they divide the team
<dantalizing> i'm pro meritocracy
<dantalizing> i think we have a very informal allocation of admin right now
<dantalizing> several people here are admins on the website, there are several adminns for loco dir
<mhall119> I didn't think people would be rushing out to get themselves in these positions, actually, it's a lot of work and not much prestige
<chaynie> dantalizing: conversely, reducing the pool like that also creates an "elite" and an "underclass", who have no real power.
<dantalizing> i dont think we're *not* getting people involved in more leadership positions
<cjohnston> got a call.. bbl
<mhall119> cjohnston: be safe
<chaynie> cjohnston: take care.
<dantalizing> i'm done .. i'd prefer the core people has this out f2f ... but i'm good with whatever is decided is best
<chaynie> what if the current leader simply picked the next leader, who could either accept or not?
<MichelleQ1> i do agree with dantalizing about doing this f2f
<itnet7> To be honest, I have discussed in the past, with mhall119 and others that I wanted to try and formalize roles, what I would have liked to see is the team begin fucntioning as a team first
<dantalizing> chaynie: thats what we've done in the past
<mhall119> dantalizing: I don't want anybody deciding who is "core" and who isn't, personally
<itnet7> Then worry about contacts, administrators, etc, later
<mhall119> chaynie: because if we ever had a problem with a current leader, as has happened in other locos, we wouldn't want them picking a successor
<dantalizing> mhall119: core = whoever decides to show ... no restrictions
<dantalizing> but just making that announcement is self selecting
<mhall119> dantalizing: with a face to face, that may be more about means than merit
<dantalizing> mhall119: not following
<itnet7> dantalizing: he's referring to some not being able attend due to finances, I believe
<mhall119> dantalizing: if we're gonna say the decision is going to be made in a face to face meeting in $city, then only people who can afford to go there when it's happening will have a say
<dantalizing> possibly
<mhall119> for now, can we all at least agree on rotating the meeting chair on a monthly basis?
<mhall119> that'll give itnet7 some help
<chaynie> We could have like a mini electoral college or something.
<dantalizing> lol
<dantalizing> mhall119: +1 meeting chair
<mhall119> chaynie: only if we can hang our chads
<chaynie> mhall119: that's really discriminatory to people named chad.
chaynie volunteers to chair the next meeting, if needed.
<mhall119> okay, since I'm doing it today, I'm happy to do it again in 2 weeks, and we'll select the chair for September then, does anybody have an objection to that?
<MichelleQ1> nope
<dantalizing> googlefight for chair of next meeting since we have 2 volunteers
<mhall119> heh, chaynie can have it if he wants it
<crashsystems> googlefight?
<MichelleQ1> paper/rocks/scissors go!
<mhall119> the pay sucks
<chaynie> I can wait till september, if that's easier.
<dantalizing> crashsystems: .com
<LinkinX> Am I late?
<LinkinX> :-s
<itnet7> a little LinkinX
<itnet7>
<crashsystems> o_O
<LinkinX> dang
<LinkinX> lol
<mhall119> [AGREED] mhall119 will chair Aug. 17th meeting, chaynie to chair Sept. 7th and 21st meetings
mhall119 will chair Aug. 17th meeting, chaynie to chair Sept. 7th and 21st meetings |
<LinkinX> I just got home
<dantalizing> the good news is LinkinX, you beat generic
<LinkinX> hoo well... that is always good
<LinkinX> so what are the headlines?
<LinkinX> any meetings?
<generic> dantalizing, what>
<itnet7> We are in a meeting still
<dantalizing> just teasing ya generic
<mhall119> and we'll work out more of the details on the other positions, either on IRC or the mailing list
<generic> no i dont get it
<mhall119> is everybody on the lists.ubuntu.com mailing list?
<mhall119> if not, you should be
<generic> meh
<X-Man> how do you check?
<LinkinX> I am
<generic> im about to try crunchbang linux
<generic> has anyone tried it?
<generic> its a ubuntu derivative btw
<dantalizing> X-Man: go to lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-us-fl or -florida, i forget ... and subscribe
<mhall119> -fl I think
<dantalizing> generic: i ran crunchbang a long time back .. i really like it
<generic> nice
<generic> sound really cool
<mhall119> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-fl
<generic> and the iso is done downloading
<chaynie> I think we should probably meet in person before uds to get our uds plans squared away.
<dantalizing> +1
<MichelleQ1> chaynie: probably a good idea
<mhall119> chaynie: yeah, we'll probably have an in-person meeting in Orlando sometime early October
<mhall119> okay, moving on
generic wishes he could go
<LinkinX> wait what network is this?
<LinkinX> Efnet
<LinkinX> ?
<mhall119> [TOPIC] Global Jam, and other events.
Global Jam, and other events.
<chaynie> freenode.
<dantalizing> LinkinX: freenode
<LinkinX> ok
<LinkinX> brb
<mhall119> it's Ubuntu Global Jam time again
<generic> ?
<mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/195/detail/
<chaynie> Jammin'.
<chaynie> I miss jamalta already.
<mhall119> it's Aug. 27th to the 29th
<itnet7> thanks mhall119 !
<itnet7> sorry
<mhall119> so start thinking about what you can do in your area
<itnet7> +1
<dantalizing> mhall119: is holding a bbq jam
<chaynie> mhall119: I think we can do some sort of jam in orlando.
<erictee> you can participate remotely ? Correct ?
<mhall119> also, anybody who is on our launchpad team can add events for our team in loco.ubuntu.com, so please use it
<dantalizing> erictee: yes
<dantalizing> erictee: you can alos organize for miami
<mhall119> dantalizing: that's my first week back in school, so I probably won't
<chaynie> I can do a bbq jam at mhall119's house, if it works for everyone.
<mhall119> :P
<MichelleQ1> We're *all* starting school that week, so, um, no.
<mhall119> chaynie: you'll have to be here mighty early to start cooking
<mhall119> also, you'd have to wear my OMG WTF BBQ apron
<mhall119> and chef hat
<chaynie> MichelleQ1: That sounds like fun.
<chaynie> mhall119: Bring it.
<MichelleQ1> rofl
<mhall119> chaynie: and nothing else
<MichelleQ1> I'm taking a feminist literature class. So...
<dantalizing> dangerous
<chaynie> mhall119: And what do I get for defeating your challenge.
<chaynie> ?
<mhall119> chaynie: a lifetime of embarrasment, and ribs
<mhall119> itnet7: did you have anything you wanted to add to the topic?
<itnet7> No, thanks you hit the points I wanted to hit, except
<mhall119> if you're going to have an event, go here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/195/detail/
<itnet7> I would like others to think of some other events beside the global jam
<mhall119> log in, then click the "Add your Team's Event" link, that'll automatically have your new event linked to the global even
<chaynie> If I hosted something in Orlando, who would be interested in attending?
<mhall119> possibly, would depend on when and where
<chaynie> mhall119: Would Saturday or Sunday work better?
<itnet7> I would
<generic> MichelleQ, they have feminist literature classes?
<linkinx> WHen do we have a bbq?
<mhall119> saturday, or before night time on Sunday
<MichelleQ1> generic: yes.
<mhall119> too late on Sunday, and I couldn't make it
<generic> is that even legal?
<dantalizing> chaynie: i'd go on a weekend day
<mhall119> generic: don't play with fire
<dorgan> chaynie: i would be interested as well
<generic> So does this class teach people how to be a better feminist or something?
<dorgan> either sat or sunday
<mhall119> when you create an event, send an email to the mailing list to let everyone know, so we can register as coming or not
<generic> or is it *about* feminism
<generic> or something
<MichelleQ1> yes
<mhall119> generic: *literature*
<linkinx> a lof of people close to Naples?
<generic> MichelleQ, yes to which?
<MichelleQ1> chaynie: Sat would work for us, depending on kid-friendliness
<mhall119> linkinx: I'm in Lakeland, and I think there's some in Ft. Myers area
<mhall119> but I think that's it
<chaynie> generic: There are a number of classic literary works that related directly to feminism. Off the top of my head, the works of Charlotte Gilman come to mind.
<linkinx> mhall119, BBQ?
<mhall119> linkinx: possibly, maybe, in October
<generic> +ZAe m
<generic> +
<linkinx> I am a hungry bbq cuban
<linkinx>
<itnet7> Thanks! mhall119 for chairing
<generic> crap
<generic> sorry, cat
<mhall119> [TOPIC] open
open
<mhall119> if anybody has anything they'd like to discuss before I end the meeting
<generic> chaynie, are they good?
<chaynie> chaynie: I've enjoyed what I
<mhall119> talking to yourself?
<chaynie> I've read, but "good" is very subjective.
<MichelleQ1> chaynie: I like you for a reason. :-D
<generic> hmmmm
<mhall119> okay, if there's nothing else, I'm going to go ahead and call this meeting over
<generic> So its like philosophy?
<X-Man> Is there going to be a FLS this Year?
<mhall119> going once
<chaynie> MichelleQ1: *blushes*
<dantalizing> X-Man: the site is active-ish
<mhall119> itnet7: dantalizing: have you heard anything definative about FLS?
<MichelleQ1> mhall119: stick a fork in it, it's dead
<cjohnston> back
<mhall119> cjohnston: quick call
<itnet7> mhall119: not really
<dantalizing> i actually just sent an email about that about 2 mins ago
<chaynie> ok, I'll hammer out the orlando jam details in the coming weeks on IRC.
<chaynie> which I plan to return to active participation. Really.
<mhall119> chaynie: does that mean we'll see you around here more often?
<cjohnston> mhall119: bs call
<mhall119> cjohnston: did you hose them down anyway?
<MichelleQ1> chaynie: if there's anything I can do to help from this distance, let me know. My days are pretty open.
<chaynie> MichelleQ1: Thanks. I'll keep your posted.
<cjohnston> mhall119: we used an extinguisher
<mhall119> #endmeeting
Meeting closed at 01:06
People Present
- mhall119
- patx
- cjohnston
- crashsystems
- itnet7
- X-Man
- chaynie
- dantalizing
- erictee
- LinkinX
- generic
- linkinx
- dorgan
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- mhall119 to add Florida Team welcome geeknic to loco.ubuntu.com
- itnet7 to email Maria about using a ballroom for a host party
FloridaTeam/Minutes/20100803 (last edited 2010-08-04 01:25:13 by 24)