2006-02-15
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Meeting February 15, 2006
01:01 JaneW hi all
01:02 pips1 hi
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01:02 JaneW hi pips1 ltns
01:02 JaneW hi flint
01:02 jsgotangco *bamf*
01:02 flint good morning campers!!!!
01:02 flint JaneW, good morning my dear!
01:02 JaneW hi jsgotangco
01:03 JaneW ogra: ping
01:03 flint JaneW, I actually have the lab running here finally.
01:03 fabbione hey flint !
01:03 pips1 JaneW, I've been very busy with my day job
01:03 flint fabbione, my god it's the Italian Stallion!!!!
01:03 fabbione ahah
01:03 jsgotangco lol
01:03 jsgotangco isn't that Rocky?
01:03 JaneW flint: excellent
01:04 fabbione man.. i can't hide anywhere
01:04 JaneW hi fabbione
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01:04 pips1 JaneW, lot's of overtime
01:04 fabbione hey Jane
01:04 JaneW pips1: ahh :/
01:04 flint fabbione, this is like a visit from the pope, Fabio you are most Welcome!
01:04 ogra moin
01:04 JaneW where's ogra?
01:04 ogra :P
01:04 jsgotangco jeezz
01:04 JaneW there he is
01:04 JaneW hi Oli
01:04 fabbione flint: thanks :)
01:04 ogra ok, tech update:
01:04 ogra fixed a lot of smaller ltsp bugs, thin-client-faster startup about to be finished (should be
done tomorrow)
01:04 ogra merged a lot of debian fixes for our ltsp package (especially important for lower memeory
clients).
the bug that caused icon themes, wallpapers and themes to be broken if you were logged in with
01:04 ogra the same user twice is fixed, so internet cafes and schools that want to use only one account
on evey thin client will be much happier (fix is in seb128's hands, to be uploaded).
01:04 ogra gdm theme handling was fixed so the customization doesnt break theme handling anymore
(important for edubuntu-artwork)
01:04 ogra low memory spec fot ltsp should be finished before next meeting
01:05 JaneW yes ogra is first, and let's behave today
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01:05 JaneW ogra: sounds good
01:05 ogra pre flight 4 testing is still not started ...
01:05 JaneW how much more to do before FF next thurs?
01:05 ogra we're having small problemns with the NEW process in soyuz that breaks the CDs
01:06 JaneW ogra: what's holding flight 4 up?
01:06 JaneW oic
01:06 ogra if thats done, we can start the first flight4 tests
01:06 JaneW how serious is it?
01:06 JaneW cause for mild panic?
01:06 jsgotangco builds
01:06 flint ogra, you were busy... we got a good image but soyuz cannot generate it?
01:06 ogra its serious for the whole distro, not only for us ... i hope thats fixed soon
01:06 JaneW agreed
01:06 ogra flint, we dont
01:07 ogra flint, the image is missing packages that are stuck in the NEW queue
01:07 JaneW ogra: is there an eta on a fix yet?
01:07 ogra and there are problems to process that easily ...
01:07 flint ogra, gotcha... I finally get off my ass and get the lab in and the distro breaks (I am a most
bitter old man :^)
01:07 JaneW is Kamion still estimating THIS week?
01:07 ogra a paste from the canonical channel:
01:07 ogra <silbs> March 2006, Linux Journal (the US one) has a 3/4 page on Edubuntu by Doc Searls. Title
is "Edubuntucation"
01:07 ogra fyi
01:07 ogra !
01:07 ogra :)
01:08 jsgotangco Doc Searls!
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01:08 JaneW ogra: awesome we must get a copy
01:08 jsgotangco god that is good
01:08 ogra JaneW, i think so
01:08 jsgotangco Doc Searls!
01:08 flint yea buddy that is good ink!
01:08 ogra jsgotangco, depends what he writes :P
01:08 jsgotangco still
01:08 jsgotangco Doc Searls!
01:08 jsgotangco heh
01:08 ogra JaneW, thats all from my side for today
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01:09 JaneW ogra: i created https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuFlight4Announcement
01:09 JaneW ogra: ready for you to fill in with cool features etc
01:09 ogra yup, saw it in #edubuntu
01:09 jsgotangco i saw it on email too
01:09 mhz re
01:09 ogra i'll do ... let me finish my fater startup spec first :)
01:09 JaneW think we need a grpahical page like ubuntu has? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
01:09 mhz wow, JaneW indeed that Ubuntu dapper announcement looks very cool
01:10 ogra JaneW, urgh ... thats a day work or even more ...
01:10 flint janew, does the flight 4 page have an iso behind it now? or is this for the future.
01:10 ogra taking all these screenshots and make them ready takes a lot of time
01:10 jsgotangco future
01:10 JaneW ogra: also are you updating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/CurrentEdubuntu?
01:10 ogra and we dont have a new theme yet
01:11 ogra JaneW, nope, not yet ...
01:11 JaneW ogra: nod, that's why I am asking...
01:11 flint JaneW, you probably remember the "harry potter" angle...
01:11 JaneW ogra: think it's worth the effort yet, esp without a new theme and look yet?
01:11 ogra i'm very busy with coding and wouldnt like to be distracted by paperwork if possible ...
01:12 ogra i dont want to risk my gaols ...
01:12 JaneW ogra: understood.... here is your chance to trawl for help...
01:12 JaneW *HINT HINT*
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01:12 ogra haha
01:12 mhz JaneW: I'd gladly do it but It wont be possible for me until I get to put my hands on that lab
i told you (1 more week at least)
01:13 ogra flint, what about you, you are eager to test, would you mind making a little testplan ?
01:13 ogra https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/CurrentEdubuntu
01:13 mhz JaneW: I have not tried dapper yet :(
01:13 flint JaneW, hey, I am getting a lab together. let me talk this offline with the Janester...
01:13 ogra cool :)
01:14 JaneW I am still a little scared of Dapper
01:14 flint ogra, ok I see a test plan, and a good one. who did this?
01:14 JaneW it didn;t pass the first Jane test cycle yet...
01:14 ogra flint, dholbach
01:14 jsgotangco this was taken from dholbach's originail test plan
01:14 flint ogra, this is really fine.
01:14 ogra yup :)
01:15 jsgotangco ok
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01:15 JaneW ogra / flint: I think we just need to test the tesp plan and see if it needs any amendments
01:16 JaneW ogra: will you keep us informed on flight CD status and let us know when the announcement needs
to be ready?
01:16 flint JaneW, put testing on the agenda. I agree we need to walk this space...
01:16 ogra JaneW, absolutely
01:16 JaneW and we need to list of cool new features, known issues and bugs etc
01:16 ogra JaneW, lets have it prepared for the weekend ...
01:16 Kinnison ogra: which 'NEW' bug is this?
01:16 JaneW ogra: agreed
01:17 JaneW ok well then tech discussion done.
01:17 ogra Kinnison, we cant process NEW apparently ... Kamion knows more ...
01:17 JaneW next up Docs
01:17 JaneW jsgotangco: you first
01:17 jsgotangco cool
01:17 jsgotangco i've uploaded new docs and should be available at http://doc.ubuntu.com/
01:17 jsgotangco but i forgot to upload the makescript so wait for a few hours
01:18 jsgotangco and i've been testing the amd64 builds hoping for a working system but alas
01:18 jsgotangco ...
01:18 jsgotangco so i'll just depend on the live workstation builds for the meantime
01:18 flint jsgotangco, any paticular place on http://doc.ubuntu.com/?
01:19 jsgotangco i've also started a small draft for a quickguide for end users intead of admins of the system
01:19 JaneW jsgotangco: as you mentioned to me earlier?
01:19 jsgotangco yes
01:19 jsgotangco its for end users who log into as clients
01:19 flint jsgotangco, this is a good thing.
01:19 JaneW jsgotangco: what format will the quick guide be?
01:19 JaneW jsgotangco: lovely :))
01:19 jsgotangco instead of showing thema ll the usual ubuntu stuff
01:20 jsgotangco we'll focus on the core desktop apps that they can use
01:20 jsgotangco kedu for instance
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01:20 jsgotangco the screenshots are not a problem i'm very much used to this
01:20 jsgotangco i just need a working system so i'll probably settle for an i386 as long as it works
01:21 jsgotangco me and mhz talked about this in passing earlier
01:21 flint jsgotangco, where are you? maybe we can find a donation.
01:21 jsgotangco we might make a TOC on the wiki
01:21 JaneW jsgotangco: that's great, cos many people don;t know/care about the technical stuff, they just
wanna know what end user stuff they can DO with it
01:21 JaneW I like the idea a LOT
01:21 jsgotangco flint, i'm in +8 (Manila)
01:22 mhz jsgotangco: I already have the junior part 90% ready with Gcompris (in spanish)
01:22 jsgotangco it won't take that much time on my side and workable on a weekend
01:22 JaneW mhz is this similar to what you spoke to me about before?
01:22 flint jsgotangco, ok how do I ship a computer to you? also do you need the monitor?
01:22 mhz JaneW: before?
01:22 ogra jsgotangco, i'll look up the last working liveCD for you ... there you can make screenshots ..
01:22 jsgotangco flint, let's discuss that later
01:22 JaneW mhz: the spanish docs
01:23 flint jsgotangco, email me flint@flint.com
01:23 pips1 jsgotangco, I have a working AMD64 edubuntu dapper... yours is broken? oh, you need the
hardware ?!
01:23 jsgotangco the good thing is that we (docteam) already have good fondation templates
01:23 mhz JaneW: ohh, 2 weeks ago,, yes. And we'll put some parts together with jsgotangco (me has to
translate them now :D )
01:23 jsgotangco pips1, heh i have 3 amd64 machines here
01:23 JaneW mhz: cool
01:23 ogra pips1, i'm fine, but i dont have time to make screenshots currently
01:23 jsgotangco i can do the shots
01:23 ogra pips1, jsgotangco has no working installation
01:23 jsgotangco i can just update this dapper too
01:23 jsgotangco and grab the apps instead
01:23 JaneW ogra: have we got our 3 themes etc ready? (I mean icons and fonts etc)
01:24 ogra JaneW, not at all ...
01:24 ogra art freeze is still far out
01:24 jsgotangco yeah
01:24 mhz yeah!
01:24 jsgotangco i'll churn out an email this week about this
01:24 ogra JaneW, and i havent anything from silbs yet
01:24 jsgotangco i first have to make a docbook framework then commit
01:24 mhz JaneW: I am very worried about this
01:25 jsgotangco the worst we could do is use the existing human theme
01:25 jsgotangco which isn't bad
01:25 JaneW ogra: I know we don;t have the silbs stuff but aren;t we chosing our own icons and fonts etc
again...?
01:25 jsgotangco the docs should build here:
01:25 jsgotangco http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/about-edubuntu/C/index.html
01:25 jsgotangco http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu-releasenotes/C/index.html
01:25 jsgotangco but they'll 404 for now
01:25 JaneW I still have to say I like the current distinct look edubuntu has, I don't think it should be
too similar to ubuntu
01:25 jsgotangco give it a few hours
01:26 ogra JaneW, yes, i havent gotten to this yet, the gdm theme breakage and gnome-settings-daemon
breakage were more important for themeing yet ...
01:26 JaneW jsgotangco: ta, will you post to #edu too later please?
01:26 jsgotangco yes
01:26 JaneW ogra: do you need someone to look into it?
01:26 jsgotangco when the cron starts to build
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01:26 ogra JaneW, did you read my report above ?
01:26 ogra JaneW, i fixed it ;)
01:27 JaneW we have some very competant graphic oriented people here
01:27 JaneW ogra: yes I read it
01:27 ogra but that prevented me from doing any other artwork stuff :)
01:27 JaneW ogra: it didn;t talk about the actual themes to be applied....
01:27 JaneW ogra: sure
01:27 JaneW ogra: I am asking more about the selection now though
01:27 flint ogra ares gratia jane...
01:27 ogra how about a call for submissions to the ML ?
01:28 ogra and we vote for the young and old theme then ...
01:28 ogra (the mid one will be silbs job)
01:28 mhz JaneW: I stopped the theming plans only because there were uncertainties on priorities about
artwork and I had to wisely use the resources
01:28 JaneW ogra: agreed
01:28 flint ogra, how "pluggable" are the themes in the code now?
01:29 mhz JaneW: however, I have been working little by little on a XFCE theme for edubuntu highschool
01:29 JaneW ogra: I was just trying to gather if you had all the requirements identified and selected
already or if we still need to look and decide etc
01:29 ogra flint, dpkg-reconfigure edubuntu-artwork gives you a menu to select the age
01:30 flint ogra so edubuntu-artwork is the selector switch... ok I will screw around with it in breezy...
01:30 ogra JaneW, i havent yet ... i'm focussing on feature freeze, so coding is my highest priority
01:30 JaneW ogra: understood, as it should be
01:30 ogra flint, not much difference yet ... all three themes are the same
01:31 JaneW ok can the rest of you look at other themey kind of things and see if you can find stuff that
yells 'edubuntu' and 'professional' ;)
01:31 flint ogra, it is all about the mechanism silly man... :^)
01:31 mhz JaneW: then junior and olds ?
01:31 ogra mhz, yes
01:31 JaneW yes we have junior, senior and plain
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01:31 mhz GTK + icons + backgrounds ?
01:32 flint JaneW, gotta have cooler names than junior, senior and plain!!!!
01:32 JaneW plain is simple and monochrome as possible for people who don't want distractions on the
desktop at all
01:32 ogra mhz, no GTK
01:32 pips1 in dpkg-reconfigure edubuntu-artwork it uses the terms "primary", "secondary" and "highschool"
...
01:32 ogra mhz, icons, splashscreen and backgrounds
01:32 ogra pips1, i'm open for better naming suggestions
01:32 JaneW we had someone saying he is a teacher and wants his kids to learn and do what they are supposed
to and not want to PLAY.
01:32 JaneW pah
01:32 mhz ogra: oh, ok
01:33 flint JaneW, don't go down the road of work and play, not here, not now :^)
01:33 pips1 ogra, JaneW : should it be "junior", "senior" and "plain", then?
01:33 ogra that would also require menu changes we cant do yet
01:33 ogra (play/non play)
01:34 JaneW ok so can everyone have a look at the available options and we can nominate at next week's
meeting?
01:34 ogra pips1, sounds good to me ...
01:34 flint ogra, so the doce says primairy, secondary and high school eh?
01:34 pips1 doce, hehe :-)
01:34 JaneW ok do we need to discuss the web and wiki?
01:34 ogra currently, yes ... but thats an interinm anyway ... just to show we *can* distinguish now+
01:35 JaneW we agreed that we will migrate the HTML pages to moin
01:35 ogra the naming isnt mandatory
01:35 JaneW pips1: did you hear about that?^
01:35 pips1 JaneW, yeah, I read that you decided on Moin at the last meeting... :-/
01:35 JaneW we also need some new content and orgnaisation on the wiki and web pages
01:35 JaneW pips1: sorry, but it does makes sense in this case
01:36 pips1 in the absence of the "web team" ;-)
01:36 JaneW many of the articles which are published quote directly from our pages
01:36 JaneW I think it's time we put some new words up there...
01:36 mhz JaneW: and we received a suggestion to have 'front page' showing changes or news so it doesnt
look as if we did nothing :)
01:36 pips1 where is highvoltage ?
01:37 JaneW also it will tie in nicely if we relaunch the page with an updated look for the new version too
01:37 mhz and with shots from ...Book
01:37 mhz or Guide
01:37 JaneW mhz: yes, we do need a webmaster to keep the pages fresh and up to date
01:37 pips1 sorry, I am trying to catch up re the website ...
01:37 jsgotangco JaneW, are these pages in a separate server? i thought it was in the same servers as that of
ubuntu
01:38 mhz JaneW: we need a 'teacher-users' community
01:38 mhz so they can provide 'weekly news'
01:38 JaneW jsgotangco: I am nt sure where the html pages are now, but the wiki will be on the same as the
rest of ubuntu like the wiki afaik
01:38 pips1 I was very busy in the last months with my day job, but this week I started working on the
edubuntu website idea again...
01:38 flint mhz, as opposed to what?
01:38 mhz JaneW: otherwise all news willbe 99% IT related from ubuntu
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01:39 JaneW pips1: great, your suggestions where very helpful before
01:39 pips1 I was hoping to touch base with highvoltage today...
01:39 JaneW highvoltage has been helping intermittently, but is also very busy with his day job
01:39 pips1 ah
01:39 flint mhz, teachers-users support and development somewhere else? Like the dining room and the
kitchen? promising idea.
01:39 JaneW pips1: me too, not sure where he is
01:39 JaneW pips1: you got his e-mail address?
01:39 pips1 well, I'm actually taking time off work (compensating overtime) now!
01:39 mhz flint: yup, something like that
01:40 JaneW flint: I think we must be careful not to take the analogy too far and become really corny
01:40 pips1 is the decisision about using Moin cast in stone now?
01:40 mhz pips1: so it seems
01:40 JaneW pips1: well we can't keep changing our minds
01:40 JaneW pips1: but we need someone to own and drive it
01:40 flint jane corn on the cob or in a casserole? hehe
01:40 JaneW pips1: I reckon that person gets the strongest vote
01:41 pips1 I wanted to suggest you give me some time, let's say two weeks to get a drupal site running to
convince you to go ahead with drupal... what does everybody think?
01:41 JaneW pips1: hno73 likes mojn and the main ubuntu site is running in moin now, so it does make sense
01:41 JaneW pips1: ogra wasn't that happy about drupal security
01:42 ogra JaneW, in fact i dont care if i dont have to maintin it ...
01:42 flint JaneW, .... anyway that was a metaphore not an analogy.... (what a college education will do
for you :^) did we not settle this site issue last week?
01:42 JaneW ogra: good attitude! :))
01:42 ogra i just pointed out that it ends in upgrade hell ...
01:42 mhz pips1: and mhz would get crazy if we get back to drupal proposal after he had accepted Drupal
and then got surprised we would use lovely Moin
01:42 pips1 drupal, even though it's php, has a very strong community, good core devs, and hasn't had many
vulnerabilities so far... i.e. its track record is better than most php fare...
01:43 ogra i think its up to the guys working with it to decide about the tool ...
01:43 JaneW flint: right it's a metaphor, but I'd argue that it's an analogy too :P
01:43 pips1 ogra, right
01:44 mhz well, I am sure hno73 will go for Moin and I sill stand defending it :D
01:44 JaneW pips1: there was an issue with getting a server to host drupal, and getting our sys admins to
find time to do it
01:44 JaneW pips1: moin took that requirement away
01:44 pips1 I understand there are pros and cons about moin vs. drupal but I think ogra and JaneW are
right, it comes down to the question who owns and drives it...
01:44 pips1 JaneW, right
01:44 flint pips1, keep in mind that I am a rabid zope freak, (taking a zope 3 course with Richter!) and I
keep my passion under control drupal is rightous but they made a call.
01:45 JaneW this was 'resolved' last week
01:45 JaneW however nothing has been done with either yet afaik
01:45 flint I was heartbroken that zope 2 did not make the cut :^)
01:45 JaneW pips1: if you can commit to it I am not opposed to you putting something together which can be
voted on
01:46 pips1 flint, zope is cool, but it always depends on what your goals are... :-)
01:46 mhz but, if there is time and willingness isn't better to use time resource in helping with dapper
stuff?
01:46 mhz or dapper complements?
01:46 mhz .oO(hmm, maybe not 'complements' but complementary material)
01:47 mhz jsgotangco: Interrogation!
01:47 flint JaneW, the impression I am beginning to get is that you want to use the "gentlemen start you
engines" project management approach. If someone does something well you will embrace it.
JaneW, yes, ok, I think that's what we should do... I spend the next two weeks with getting a
01:47 pips1 "drupal edubuntu site demo" and then let's vote about it.. if people prefer to go the
moin/ubuntu way after that, it's fine with me...
01:48 jsgotangco yes
01:48 JaneW flint: this is a community project (apart from possibly ogra) I can't really make anyone do
anything
01:48 flint pips1, i was unserious about zope, as I have no intention of investing any time in developing
the site I just want to use it. I am good with the demo idea.
01:48 mhz ogra: if I finish XFCE theming next week, could you make it available for dapper time?
01:48 jsgotangco flint, we're volunteers
01:48 jsgotangco ogra and JaneW are the only ones paid to do this
01:48 JaneW flint: all I can do is hope they are excited enough by what needs to be done to want to help,
and to harness that it;s something we can use
01:49 ogra mhz, i can package it, but i think janimo would be the better guy to ask about xfce temes
01:49 JaneW it;s=into
01:49 mhz ogra: sure, but I mean this is XFCE edubuntu theme
01:49 JaneW flint: granted PMing the ubuntu project is more work but FAR easier
01:50 ogra yes, we can package xfce-edubuntu-theme for universe, no problem with that ... main will need a
main inclusion report and a review ...
01:50 neuralis janew, ogra: i am happy to provide drupal hosting on a well-connected server, and ssh access
for edubuntu developers.
01:50 flint JaneW, what is in it for the perpertrator of this web site beyond bragging rights, think of
some excellent reward. sometthing that will forever grant bragging rights imho.
01:50 pips1 Can I get some thumbs up/votes on me giving drupal a spin for a demo we all vote on in two
weeks?
01:50 jsgotangco you're given an edubuntu.org forwarder hehe
01:50 jsgotangco joke
01:50 mhz pips1: but, if there is time and willingness isn't better to use time resource in helping with
dapper stuff? and leave drupal/moin voting for Abril 27th and on
01:51 flint mhz, not a lot we can do about the upstream breakage eh ollie?
01:51 JaneW sorry I am in decision paralysis on this one
01:51 mhz ogra: okis, thx,I'll try t find time to finish it durinf bnext week
01:51 JaneW the camp is divided
01:52 ogra JaneW, flip a krugerrand ?
01:52 pips1 mhz, well, i've made a headstart with drupal (it's running a test machine of mine) and I want
to test drive it for my own good, too ;-)
01:52 JaneW ogra: yeah right, I have a huge pile right here ;)
01:52 flint JaneW, I advise going for a demo. what can it hurt? Oliver what do you think (i don't care is
an optioinal answer :^).
01:52 ogra heh, i knew you all have them in buckets :)
01:53 JaneW I think mhz, pips1, hno73 and highvoltage have to 'meet' and decide once and for all, it's
their combined project after all
01:53 ogra flint, sure ...
01:53 ogra JaneW, ++
01:53 flint JaneW, good idea.
01:54 pips1 JaneW, that's four people, we need an uneven number ;-)
01:54 JaneW ok I will set up a meeting for friday 12:00 utc, anyone who cares can be there, and we can hash
it out for the last time
01:54 flint throw all the web-heads in a room and make them play "tag"!
01:54 flint JaneW, that's when I wash my hair!!
01:54 JaneW pips1: well which ever camp manages to round up the most supporters wins
01:54 JaneW AND they get to do the damn work afterwards too! :)
01:55 jsgotangco JaneW, it shouldn't exceed 2 hours, it'll clash with docteam meeting at 14UTC
01:55 jsgotangco they could do it in
01:55 JaneW 1 hour at the most
01:55 jsgotangco #edubuntu
01:55 jsgotangco :D
01:55 JaneW jsgotangco: ok yes, we can stay in #edub
01:55 pips1 JaneW, flint : no joke, on friday I have an appointment with a hair dresser! :-D
01:55 JaneW I'll send a mail
01:56 pips1 JaneW, is another date/time ok? if not, I'll move my appointment, no prob
01:56 flint JaneW, high noon, show down at the #edubuntu corrale... this is the stuff of legend!
01:56 JaneW of course if you have stuff to demo to support your arguments all the better...
01:56 flint pips1, i cannot breath i am laughing too hard...
01:56 JaneW pips1: well earlier is too early for the states...
01:56 pips1 flint, LOL
01:56 JaneW tomorrow?
01:56 mhz it depends on hno73 possibilities
01:57 pips1 what, that gives me today to come up with a demo?!
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01:57 JaneW pips1: monday....?
01:57 pips1 monday sounds better :-)
01:57 mhz .oO("tell me why I dont like Mondays..")
01:57 JaneW mhz: are you ok with this?^
01:58 pips1 mhz, hehe
01:58 mhz JaneW: why not, but I am concerned about 2 things
01:58 flint pips1, friday has more romance to it. talk to your coiffure maybe.
01:58 pips1 flint, sorry for spoiling your friday romance, friday is hair day! ;-)
01:59 JaneW I think monday is good, we need to focus on flight 4 this week anyway
01:59 JaneW ok anything else?
01:59 JaneW time nearly up
01:59 JaneW I will send that mail now, 12:00UTC monday
=== ogra would like to hear mhz's concerns ...
01:59 jsgotangco coll with me
01:59 pips1 monday, 12 UTC on #edubuntu, then?
JaneW: highvoltage did work on something and I have no clue why we didn' test it, AND hno73
01:59 mhz has dedicated a lot of work on preparing a Moin version once decided drupal was not the option.
So.. too much wasted time and resources
01:59 mhz ogra: those are
02:00 ogra yup
02:00 JaneW mhz: I do agree with you
02:00 mhz it's like we tell ogra... you know, we wont release edubuntu
02:00 mhz we'll use RPMs now
02:00 flint so I should get to work on the zope python based drupal moin emulator on my zope 3 platform eh?
02:00 ogra mhz, haha
02:01 mhz flint: lol
02:01 pips1 mhz, maybe it's better if we talk with hno73 and highvoltage...
02:01 jsgotangco afaik hno73 is on a roll with moin as we have started with theopencd site and ubuntu
02:01 flint pips1, i want you to know that I feel left out and hurt...
02:01 mhz pips1: well, yes, of course we must, we owe them at leastr that
02:01 flint pips1, and relieved :^)
02:01 jsgotangco we're even *this* close to having the whole moin de run off the cd on the livecd
02:02 JaneW I think mhz, pips1, hno73 and highvoltage have to 'meet' and decide once and for all, it's
their combined project after all
02:02 JaneW as I said before
02:02 jsgotangco yeah
02:02 mhz well, okis
02:02 pips1 flint, I don't see you having a prob of not getting heard ;-)
02:03 flint ogra, final prophesy, when do we get a testable flight 4?
02:03 mhz I'd prefer hno73 and highvoltage set the time. they have spent the most efforts on website
issues sor far
02:03 flint pips1, point well taken and graciously accepted!
02:03 jsgotangco ogra, can we change the menu System -> About Ubuntu to About Edubuntu?
02:03 JaneW ok meeting overEdubuntu/Meetings/Logs/2006-02-15 (last edited 2009-10-14 19:46:18 by 95)