Edubuntu/Meetings/Logs/2006-02-01

2006-02-01

Meeting

01:11 dholbach 01:11 jelkner 01:11 dholbach 01:12 flint 01:12 jelkner 01:12 flint 01:12 spacey 01:13 flint 01:13 dholbach 01:13 jelkner 01:13 jelkner 01:14 jelkner 01:14 spacey 01:14 flint 01:14 spacey 01:14 dholbach 01:14 flint 01:14 jelkner 01:15 spacey 01:15 spacey 01:15 dholbach 01:15 jelkner 01:15 flint 01:15 jelkner 01:15 jelkner 01:15 spacey 01:16 flint 01:16 jelkner 01:16 jelkner 01:16 jelkner === 01:16 flint 01:16 spacey 01:17 jelkner 01:17 jelkner 01:18 flint 01:19 JaneW 01:19 flint 01:19 JaneW 01:20 JaneW 01:20 flint 01:20 flint 01:20 JaneW 01:20 JaneW 01:20 JaneW 01:21 sivang 01:21 ogra 01:21 JaneW 01:22 JaneW 01:22 ogra 01:22 JaneW 01:22 ogra 01:22 ogra 01:22 flint 01:23 ogra 01:23 sivang 01:23 ogra 01:23 flint === 01:24 ogra 01:24 ogra 01:24 simira 01:24 JaneW 01:25 ogra 01:25 jsgotangco 01:25 sivang 01:25 JaneW 01:25 simira === 01:25 ogra 01:25 ogra 01:25 ogra 01:25 ogra 01:25 ogra 01:25 ogra 01:25 ogra 01:25 ogra 01:26 jsgotangco 01:26 ogra 01:26 JaneW 01:26 ogra 01:27 flint 01:27 jsgotangco 01:27 ogra === 01:28 ogra 01:28 ogra === 01:29 JaneW 01:29 ogra 01:29 ogra 01:29 flint 01:29 jsgotangco 01:30 ogra 01:30 jsgotangco 01:30 ogra 01:30 jsgotangco 01:30 jsgotangco 01:30 jsgotangco 01:30 JaneW 01:30 JaneW 01:30 jsgotangco 01:31 JaneW 01:31 jsgotangco 01:31 spacey 01:31 JaneW 01:31 jsgotangco 01:31 JaneW 01:31 JaneW 01:31 jsgotangco 01:31 JaneW 01:32 jsgotangco 01:32 jsgotangco 01:32 flint 01:33 flint 01:33 JaneW 01:33 jsgotangco === 01:34 flint 01:34 flint 01:34 JaneW 01:35 flint === 01:35 flint 01:36 JaneW 01:36 flint 01:37 ogra 01:37 ogra 01:37 jsgotangco 01:37 flint 01:37 jsgotangco 01:38 flint 01:39 flint 01:39 flint 01:40 JaneW 01:40 JaneW 01:40 flint 01:40 JaneW 01:41 JaneW 01:41 JaneW 01:42 jsgotangco 01:42 01:43 01:44 flint 01:44 01:44 01:45 flint 01:45 flint 01:46 flint 01:46 01:46 flint 01:46 JaneW === 01:47 === 01:47 01:47 JaneW 01:47 flint 01:47 JaneW 01:48 01:48 01:48 flint 01:48 01:48 01:50 flint 01:50 flint 01:50 01:51 jsgotangco 01:51 flint 01:51 ogra 01:52 JaneW 01:52 JaneW 01:52 flint 01:52 01:53 01:53 01:53 jsgotangco 01:53 01:53 flint 01:53 sivang 01:54 JaneW 01:54 sivang 01:54 ogra 01:54 sivang 01:54 JaneW 01:54 ogra === 01:54 sivang 01:55 jsgotangco 01:55 jsgotangco 01:57 flint 01:58 JaneW 01:58 JaneW 01:58 JaneW 01:58 flint 01:59 JaneW 01:59 ogra 01:59 ogra 01:59 flint 02:00 flint 02:00 ogra 02:00 ogra 02:00 flint 02:00 ogra 02:00 flint 02:00 jsgotangco 02:01 ogra 02:01 flint 02:02 ogra 02:02 jsgotangco 02:02 ogra 02:02 flint 02:02 ogra 02:02 jsgotangco 02:03 flint 02:03 ogra 02:03 ogra 02:03 flint 02:04 ogra 02:04 jsgotangco 02:04 flint 02:05 flint 02:05 flint === ["Lea 02:05 JaneW 02:06 JaneW 02:06 JaneW 02:06 JaneW 02:06 JaneW 02:07 jsgotangco 02:11 02:11 JaneW 02:12 02:12 02:12 02:13 02:15 jsgotangco 02:16 jsgotangco 02:16 02:17 02:17 jsgotangco 02:17 jsgotangco 02:17 jsgotangco 02:17 jsgotangco 02:17 02:17 jsgotangco 02:18 02:18 jsgotangco 02:19 02:19 02:19 02:19 jsgotangco 02:19 jsgotangco 02:19 jsgotangco 02:19 jsgotangco 02:21 02:21 02:21 jsgotangco 02:21 jsgotangco 02:21 02:22 jsgotangco 02:22 02:22 jsgotangco 02:22 02:22 jsgotangco 02:22 02:22 jsgotangco

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01:10 flint       JaneW, ogra, you folks back from lunch? flint: not lunched yet. Are we meeting this morning? ogra went out for a smoke well, I suppose we are...Jeff. I only have 15 more minutes, if we don't start soon, I'll miss it dholbach, of course, I should join him... dholbach, how is it going there? jelkner, you could do a doc report and then go tame the screaming kids... :^) spacey: fine, apart from everybody being ill :) certainly kevin and i got together last sunday we have updated the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook dholbach, oh:/ that sucks spacey, sorry about the sick part.  the flu? flint, i'm not sick :p Yep. jelkner, strong opening, this is good stuff, what else? anyone interested in contributing to the cookbook, could choose their favorite "recipe" and write it up... dholbach, contanmination sprint :P gar! :) we will be meeting again next Sunday to outline which recipies we think are essential. spacey, atta boy! :^) that's it for our report. questions? jelkner, where is a list of the recipies? I like what I see on  your web site Jeff. spacey: we will be working on that next sunday we don't have them yet next week we will ealden [[email protected]] has joined #ubuntu-meeting Let me think of a softball question like they would ask Bush at a news conference... jelkner, if you have a list of that, i might have time to write a few spacey: great! ok, gotta run... ...that was painless... hello :/ JaneW, you just missed jeff... yeah sorry we are at the DistroSprintDeathPlague he actually did a very coherant doc report... the what? I am on line so I'll scroll back and catch up well 9 of the 16 ppl here are down with a nasty bug the rest are waiting with bated breath to see if we are going to die too JaneW: oh my god, waht seems to be the bug? nobody has grown wings, so it might not be bird flu sivang: fever, headache, vomitting, diarroea - you get the idea ogra: got time for a quick tech update? hmpf ... careful I can throw a danish at you ;) you got that in the sprint update already ... there is not much to add, i could copy and paste though ogra, did you enjoy the cigarette with coffee? flint, which of the 10 i head already JaneW: lol (smoking apparently prevents me from getting ill) the best times are smoking... jsgotangco [[email protected]] has joined #ubuntu-meeting so tech update.... seeing that i get ltsp in shape with all the functions we need before feture freeze we found an evil bug with the system clock i should solve currently instead of chatting ... JaneW: are you all right? And how come you speak Danish? Har du noen gang boet i Danmark? ogra: yeah cut and paste for those that didn;t read seems we need ntpdate to run on the client and a ntp server on the ltsp server, else udev cant create devices if the hardware clock is jfar out of sync edubuntu meeting? jsgotangco: seems so :) simira: I am ok I think , feeling a bit spaced out though. I mean a Danish PASTRY though hehe, ok sivang visualized that, err * LTSP work included sanitizing all the LTSP breakage which occurred due to changes in the underlying Dapper architecture - this is now fixed and running again. * Work was done on Xauthority handling on LTSP to allow secure authentication of thin clients to the Edubuntu server. * Thin Client Low Memory Usage:  netboot mode in initramfs tools added and integrated to LTSP - still to be tested and uploaded. * Reverted the change of the SIaddr that breaks the LTSP booting with oh great i got to attend one again =) DHCPD. This prevents breakage on upgrades of LTSP set-ups. jsgotangco: :) wb but currently that time bug has the highes prio, since i need to work with the people that are left before they also fall dead from sprint to sick bed :^) ogra, how is amd64? jsgotangco, works fine jsgotangco would like to test an amd daily in a few days i havent gotten around to set the default chroot creation in the installer to i386 yet which i think makes sense ... but i dnot know if its possible to do for just oine arch juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Verlassend"] who is in charge of edubuntu documentation for dapper, over and above the cookbook? jsgotangco ? jsgotangco, wait some days before testing, currently the ltsp client is broken ... the next uploads will fix this JaneW, still jelkner and kjcole JaneW, what jeff reported on is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook it is a start. JaneW, what needs to be updated? i still have my olld sources jsgotangco, probably the mizilla page ... JaneW, as for cookbook, i have no relationship to it for dapper *mozilla ok we made a shorter one i'll update Let me rephrase... who is in charge of edubuntu documentation for dapper, other than the cookbook? about edubuntu and release notes etc i can only think of releasenotes and about ditto i'll take charge of that then if there are several parts of documentation that are missing out, i don't might writing it up jsgotangco: cool thanks, will you have time? JaneW, yes jsgotangco: have you worked with that pdf guy yet? spacey, great thanks please co-ord with jsgotangco JaneW, he hasn't been communicating, i'll bug him jsgotangco: hmmm... JaneW, its a bit too late for dapper, but we can make a plan for it DITA is the future JaneW, is the plan that all docs be in pdf? JaneW, outside of the cookbook I mean. flint: I am not clear on the plan jsgotangco would know more flint, this is more of a toolchain project rather than edubuntu specific jsgotangco digs for old emails JaneW, you asked about the "pdf guy"  what a great name! :^) gotcha Jane well his name is Mark Johnson, know that I think about it jsgotangco, I am slow, what is DITA? Hirion [[email protected]] has joined #ubuntu-meeting JaneW, I think he should change his name... Mark Johnson is pretty plain.  chicks dig "the pdf guy"... flint: agreed orga would the brower in edubuntu default to the doc pages? flint, it will default to the about page (which might contain links to the docs) flint, Darwin Information Typing Architecture indeed... the about page could be customized to link to these very docs... (DITA XML) jsgotangco, thank you, a morning without a new acronym is like a morning without coffee...like this morning...argh! jsgotangco, the trick with the docs is how to get the average install to read them.  when I installed, the first thing I did was click on that silly fox. JaneW, I LIKE the fox :^) ok any more edubuntu business? highvoltage: ? anyway ollie how hard set is the html for that page? you said you wanted to discuss web stuff today? also I have been chatting with hno73 and he supports the idea of MOIN for edubuntu website mhz around? cool highvoltage sorry, i'm here, but i'm also not highvoltage JaneW: hi hi jonathan! highvoltage hi mr flint! highvoltage flint: how's the cookbook? there is progress: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook highvoltage, it is far from being hot and on the table :^) I would say they are cutting up the carrots and looking for the soup pot. highvoltage :) I personally have found the sherry :^) highvoltage: Henrik supports the idea of using MOIN instead of drupal for the site... JaneW drank maple whiskey last night... highvoltage JaneW: i'm actually very ambivilant between the two, both are good. JaneW congratualted flint for getting Jonathan right ;) highvoltage flint: yes, thank you! highvoltage: the ubuntu site is moin now and it looks good JaneW, I have to go and check EVERY TIME, but you are welcome!!! highvoltage: it may make sense to standardise, and unify to a degree highvoltage it's less work too :) highvoltage it's just philip who feels really, really strong that it should be drupal JaneW, in this case I really feel that it is not about the tool.  lets get something out there and deal tools on the back end. highvoltage and he had lots of ideas which he says depends more or less on it. highvoltage but i'm sure you could get those tools in moin with some work too highvoltage, Jonathan I just think of the text processing fun one could have cross converting between all these damn tools (choy curl :^) I meant "holy curl" highvoltage yes, there's that too ok i've seeded initial Edubuntu 6.04 docs (not cookbook) in svn I have played with moin and drupal, and a few others.  all can handle content.  as we say in cookbook land, "where is the beef?" great highvoltage: how involved is phillip now? flint: look at www.ubuntu.com - like what you see? = moin jsgotangco, for the svn crippled, how do I get to them?  we take this offline? highvoltage JaneW: he's gone a bit quiet, i think mainly because of the drupal stuff, i think he likes workign with drupal a lot, somehow highvoltage if we stick with moin, i can at least get the translators going on the web content. highvoltage there's about 7 people wanting to translate the edubuntu site into different languages. flint, you grab it via svn but its in docbook source...i'll give you the link later highvoltage (each a different one) JaneW, no need to sell any tool... all I know is that I have to register again and again because none of the tools allow cross passwords! JaneW: you mean, wiki.ubuntu.com ? sivang: both JaneW: AFAIK this is Plone at the front we dont use plone since breezy anymore ah , I didn't know plone was moved out from the main site. sivang: no it's not, it was migrated, it's moin now thats why plone is in universe ;) JaneW has a login now *efg* ogra: heh its moin, we've been doing in the OpenCD project too the tabs are moin JaneW, I do know you are hell on wheels with the moin meta-language for links and etc... :^) well Hendrik made a helpful help page with tips as well, so I can learn more now highvoltage: anyway think about it, but it's your call in the end, I just rem there were security concerns about drupal. jsgotangco: indeed ogra, my remaining question is how hard set is the "about page"? pity mhz is not here, he touts moin every chance he gets flint, its the default page, it gets set by the artwork page s/page/package/ JaneW, the default page of the browser is where the results of our document labor end up. na it gets set up in the profile thingy in firefox... firefox can only point to one page that is the same location for ubuntu, edubuntu and kubuntu ... the different artwork packages replace this file ... it is not a url at first ollie it is a file its a file:/// url ok gotcha... flint, we'd like to put it on docfreeze too to open up for translations (that's why we'd love to do xml) flint, which is hardcoded in firefox ogra, am I more nuts than usual to want to find the docs when I open the browser? flint, as i said, there should be no probelm to add links to that page flint, do you want to add the cookbook in the distro? (Unote that file:/// can also be a link) ogra, there is not enough space on the CD for the cookbook. jsgotangco, i doubt that will be ready in time for being packaged in dapper i agree ogra, I think the docs that Jsgotangco is cooking could open as links on the default browser page flint, i'd love to drop all KDE stuff to make space available ;) (but we're lacking replacements yet) ogra, that was harsh.... flint, it takes a huge amount of space to hold all the dependencys for kdeedu on the cd yeah that kevin, he was there all the time! anyway, I gotta get coffee.  excellent conspiracy this morning.  Thanks!!!! sksk flint [[email protected]] has left #ubuntu-meeting ving"] sorry that was a bit disjointed folks we are multitasking here and a bit disease infected. thanks for the cook book work and updates same time, same place next week, and hopefully we'll have good progress by then :) I may have some exciting news to share then too. i still havent seen any cookbook source :/ highvoltage JaneW: if majority is happy with moin, then so am i it's lunch time - over and out highvoltage btw highvoltage here's a very, very early version of the troubleshooter i talked about at the summit: highvoltage http://jonathancarter.co.za/projects/xola/index.py highvoltage it's layout is awkward and it's still very strange, but it should give you a vague idea of where it might be going to wow that is so cool highvoltage thanks :) long term goal is to have a nice wiki-style editor for all the highvoltage options, so that the help desk of who-ever is deploying the installations can easily edit the entire thing. yes that would be really cool hrmmm this could be great to adapt for ubuntu itself make it a wee bit smaller i guess highvoltage yeah. wonder if this can run off yelp highvoltage it's probably going to become smaller anyway, those penguins are expensive on screen space. do you want to try this out on Yelp? highvoltage i would if i had the time, i think mdke suggested the same highvoltage thign highvoltage how would this work with yelp? yelp can render html but that's static this is a python script hrmm highvoltage this python script is still very static highvoltage i plan to have the data in a sqlite database later on hmm can i take a peek? i can try it over the weekend highvoltage of course, don't expect much though its ok highvoltage can i tar it up and e-mail it to you? yes thanks highvoltage it's less than 800k, including images alright highvoltage [email protected]? yeah

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