## page was renamed from UbuntuYouth/Meetings/20100911 = General Agenda Items and Proposals = PLEASE COME TO THE MEETINGS PREPARED. This means: 1. If there is an either and issue or idea for the team, please add it to the agenda below. 1. Besides voting on new members, there will usually be no voting held at these meetings. The Ubuntu Youth Council will review all discussions and ideas from the meeting and will vote on them once they have held such a discussion. ||Who || What || || [[zkriesse]] || Start of meeting, and such || || [[zkriesse]] || Welcoming message || || Who || Topic 1 - New Members || || Who || Topic 2 - Mentor-ship for new members? || || Who || Topic 3 - Progress of assigned/to be assigned projects || || Who || Topic 4 - WE HAVE A FORUM!!!! || || [[zkriesse]] || Topic 5 - Any concerns, questions, or ideas? Please, bring them up! || == Fixed Agenda Items == * '''Request A Status Update From Current Mentors.''' * '''Review List Of Prospective Members In Need Of Mentor.''' * '''Vote On Any People That Have Been Nominated For Membership''' === Post-Meeting Tasks === * '''Keep [[UbuntuYouth/TeamReports]] updated.''' * '''Update Next meeting time on the wiki''' * '''Send meeting minutes to [[mailto:ubuntu-youth@lists.launchpad.net|ubuntu-youth mailing list]]''' == Log == {{{#!IRC 16:59:16 #startmeeting 16:59:16 Meeting started Sat Sep 11 16:59:16 2010 UTC. The chair is zkriesse. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell. 16:59:16 updated 16:59:16 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:59:16 updated 16:59:17 1 16:59:39 almost :) 16:59:43 :59:16 :) 17:00:00 BasicXP: you couldve had lag on your end 17:00:07 #voters AndrewMC ascenseur bachstudies czajkowski Ddorda highvoltage jpds lfaraone lhavelund nisshh noplamodo popey Puck` ryanakca shadeslayer JoeMaverickSett pedro3005 Kaia 17:00:07 Current voters: AndrewMC Ddorda JoeMaverickSett Kaia Puck` ascenseur bachstudies czajkowski highvoltage jpds lfaraone lhavelund nisshh noplamodo pedro3005 popey ryanakca shadeslayer 17:00:18 Ok so, welcome to the meeting 17:00:21 O RLY? 17:00:22 Thanks all for coming 17:00:22 AndrewMC: nope 17:00:27 zkriesse: Thank you! 17:00:28 ssup :D 17:00:34 \o 17:00:38 Can I uh get a sound off so I know who's here? 17:00:39 :) 17:00:45 * lfaraone is semi-here. 17:00:49 me 17:00:52 Geez 17:00:54 * noplamodo is lurking at the meeting 17:00:54 here 17:00:58 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuYouth/Meetings 17:01:00 * BasicXP is here, but may suddenly disappear for no reason 17:01:04 * JoeMaverickSett is here. 17:01:09 if you hadnt highlighted me there ^ i would have forgotten :P 17:01:09 Our agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuYouth/Meetings 17:01:14 was watching House MD 17:01:39 Ok so, first topic 17:01:46 #topic New Members!!! 17:01:46 TOPIC: New Members!!! 17:02:18 Since our last meeting we've gained a few members, I believe you know who you are.... nisshh JoeMaverickSett and popey I believe 17:02:18 none i guess :D 17:02:22 oh 17:02:35 lol, FAIL shadeslayer :) 17:02:38 and BasicXP has started coming into the channel :) 17:02:48 AndrewMC: yup :) 17:02:50 * shadeslayer hasnt had a proper look at the channel then 17:02:55 Why don't those who've just joined us give a little intro about yourself 17:03:02 ^ low caffeine causes that 17:03:06 starting with you BasicXP 17:03:19 zkriesse: Have I joined officially? 17:03:37 okay. My name is Roman, on the net i'm known as BasicXP. Currently an Ubuntu Member, main contribution - translations. 17:03:42 skfin: Ah yes I'm sorry I forgot you did...yes you have 17:03:49 Yeah, no problem 17:03:59 In summer started an "Ubuntu Videoguide" project in Russian 17:04:05 BasicXP: Very cool! 17:04:08 And yes, I'm from Russia (Moscow) 17:04:10 nice 17:04:13 BasicXP: wiki page? 17:04:15 zkriesse: thanks! :) 17:04:22 zkriesse: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicXP 17:04:23 BasicXP: nice. 17:04:36 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicXP 17:04:36 JoeMaverickSett: thx 17:04:49 skfin: why don't you go next 17:05:23 BasicXP: awesome site ( ubuntu.ru ) 17:05:32 My name is Sasu Karttunen, I'm known as skfin(wiki page is named as skfin as well). I support people when I can, I code my own stuff with python and pyqt, I do some translation fixes too 17:05:39 shadeslayer: yes it is (i didn't make it though :) ) 17:06:03 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/skfin 17:06:03 skfin: we do need more coders to teach :D 17:06:30 yup, the more the merrier! :) 17:06:30 skfin: Thank you Sasu 17:06:35 I also can do a bit with C++ and Qt... 17:06:40 skfin: very nice 17:06:44 Thanks 17:06:50 ^ im starting out with Qt myself :) 17:06:59 nisshh: ? Anything to say? 17:07:00 i sadly only know how to make software on vb.net :) 17:07:04 sure 17:07:30 BasicXP: shouldnt be a problem, we shall convert you to qtcreator and other IDE's :D 17:07:54 my name is Ryan Macnish, i am an Ubuntu Member (recently) and have contributed to many, many projects, including the Ubuntu Manual and Quickly. 17:07:55 shadeslayer: i thought of learning mono and glade actually 17:07:59 but have no time really 17:08:03 :D 17:08:05 zkriesse: Just for note, you didn't add me to voters...but no problem if we don't vote about anything 17:08:05 only summer is free 17:08:17 im also a bug triager, a python and C programmer, and a geek 17:08:37 nisshh: where are you from? 17:08:47 shadeslayer: oh yea, Australia 17:08:48 and Wiki page 17:09:33 zkriesse: next person :) 17:10:27 my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RyanMacnish 17:10:31 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RyanMacnish 17:10:38 Ok welcome new members! 17:10:45 o/ 17:10:57 lol, forgot popey :) 17:11:03 :P 17:11:07 Oh doth thou wish to "introduce" yourself? 17:11:12 Hello, I'm Alan Pope (popey) I have been using Ubuntu since 4.10, and quite like it. You can find out all about me on my wiki and launchpad pages http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanPope http://launchpad.net/~popey 17:11:28 popey: You need no introduction...you're too awesome for that 17:11:31 :) 17:11:34 wow.. someone who is using ubuntu from warthog :D 17:11:34 hah, thanks 17:11:39 yeah ^ 17:11:41 im popey's #1 fan! 17:11:48 * popey hugs nisshh 17:11:56 * nisshh hugs back 17:12:00 cheque is in the post 17:12:10 hehe 17:12:13 hehe 17:12:19 lol 17:12:30 Ok our next order of business 17:12:59 #topic Mentorship for new members??? 17:12:59 TOPIC: Mentorship for new members??? 17:13:33 I've decided to bring this up because we've not implemented a mentorship "program" as of yet due to a low influx of new members 17:13:53 And those that are coming in are already experienced in one if not several areas 17:14:07 So kinda wanna here your guys'es thoughs on this 17:14:19 im all up for it 17:14:30 shadeslayer: In what way? How should we implement it? 17:14:35 also.. i might be able to grab people from #kubuntu-devel 17:14:50 zkriesse: ok so basically there are 3 aspects 17:14:53 1) Coding 17:14:57 zkriesse: what about something similar to the bugsquad program? 17:14:58 2) Packaging 17:15:05 3) Bug triaging 17:15:12 shadeslayer: That's all about bugs though 17:15:33 zkriesse: what else are we looking at? 17:15:50 like .. are we looking at app development? ( then the above 3 work ) 17:15:55 I'm refering to one in a much broader aspect..one that (hopefully) will include not only those but wiki tutorials, IRC basics, and maybe even launchpad 17:16:27 oh.. hmm 17:16:43 zkriesse: your the champ in the wiki area 17:16:50 Hence that's where I wish to here your thoughts....what should we implement and why 17:16:58 I know that most people get really into bugs... 17:17:09 I'm a rare exception in that I actually like wiki 17:17:15 Most dont in my experience 17:17:23 :D 17:17:38 iv done a bit of everything 17:17:51 i know alot about IRC 17:17:59 Me too :) 17:18:01 AndrewMC: Yeah....you do.....lol 17:18:10 IRC is my thing I think 17:18:11 lol 17:19:00 Ok so skfin and AndrewMC, would you guys be willing to maybe come up with an IRC Basics doc/presentation and then email it to me? Something that I could say, put up on the wiki? 17:19:10 Or even you guys could plan a session on it 17:19:29 zkriesse: Sure 17:19:36 ya i think i can do that 17:19:45 hear hear! that would be good. 17:19:48 I think that tutorials to different clients would be ok too 17:19:53 I know AndrewMC is quite busy with school so don't worry about getting it done like tomorrow 17:19:57 skfin: Very good idea! 17:20:09 * AndrewMC sighs in relief 17:20:09 xchat, and quassel at least 17:20:14 skfin: we need one for irssi :) 17:20:16 #action AndrewMC and skfin to start working on an IRC Basics Tutorial 17:20:16 * meetingology AndrewMC and skfin to start working on an IRC Basics Tutorial 17:20:39 nisshh: I think if someone wants to use irssi, he will read the manpages :P 17:20:47 skfin: true :P 17:20:49 AndrewMC: and skfin thanks for that...as I said if you get it done whenever that's ok...There's no required time for it.... 17:20:53 yea 17:21:11 zkriesse: Yeah, I have lots of free time so time is not problem for me 17:21:40 skfin: ya i will help when i can i just have alot going on with school 17:21:49 skfin: and AndrewMC many thanks guys! 17:22:14 Ok so packaging and a bugs basic tutorial...i know bilal wanted to do something but Ive not heard from him 17:22:19 Who'd like to take over that project? 17:22:35 AndrewMC: Sure, school is the main priority for all, at least it should be 17:22:59 zkriesse: i could but bilal know a lot more than me about busg and packaging :) 17:23:08 skfin: ya i am doing Omnibus (means: big study ) so....ya 17:23:21 Yeah. 17:23:32 i can help with any kde* packages/ packaging bugs 17:23:39 zkriesse: i have far more experience with Python and documentation 17:23:56 so where ever you think i fit, put my name there:D 17:24:01 nisshh: Ok do you want to help me with wiki then? 17:24:14 zkriesse: yea, sounds good 17:24:22 I've the need of a VERY proficient wiki editor...someone who could make a page in like, an hour 17:24:44 im not that good, but yea, i can do wiki stuff 17:24:49 nisshh: Cool 17:25:03 #action zkriesse and nisshh to collaborate on a wiki "something" 17:25:03 * meetingology zkriesse and nisshh to collaborate on a wiki "something" 17:25:31 shadeslayer: Think you could maybe start a packaging tutorial doc? Something really basic? 17:25:56 thats already on the wiki, but sure ill need help in improving the docs 17:26:08 shadeslayer: ok thanks@ 17:26:26 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide << 17:26:35 #action shadeslayer to improve a packaging doc 17:26:35 * meetingology shadeslayer to improve a packaging doc 17:26:41 shadeslayer: thanks! 17:26:51 Anyone else wish to volunteer some time? 17:27:07 popey: ^^^ 17:27:12 zkriesse: maybe me, but I have no idea what to do :) 17:27:22 BasicXP: What are you proficient in? 17:27:28 BasicXP: Translations? 17:27:35 i guess so 17:27:49 BasicXP: Ok we'll talk after the meeting if that's cool 17:27:51 although i still didn't figure out how to work with gnome/kde upstream 17:27:55 zkriesse: okay 17:28:18 Ok so that pretty much covers the projects and mentorship topics 17:28:24 Unless anyone has anything else to add? 17:28:28 I'm all ears! 17:28:51 tried to get popey's attention but he is off in lala land :)\ 17:28:55 lol 17:28:56 zkriesse: I think that some video tutorials on irc would be cool. I mean, if we have time to do them after real irc basics doc... 17:28:58 hah 17:29:06 nah, just didn't know what you specifically were asking me nisshh 17:29:06 oh, there he is! :) 17:29:10 i can do some screencasts too 17:29:11 (didnt want to interrupt) 17:29:18 ah ok 17:29:20 \o/ screencasts 17:29:28 popey: Please, if you've anything to say say! 17:29:46 on the subject of a packaging guide? 17:29:54 popey: Anything man! 17:29:56 hah 17:30:04 Yeah, people likes more to watch screecasts than reading documentation 17:30:05 well, there's a lot of stuff on the wiki about packaging 17:30:14 and its quite hard to digest for many people 17:30:19 so simpler guides might be nice.. 17:30:20 ..but.. 17:30:33 there are some fairly strict rules about packaging, which needs to be conveyed 17:30:40 which makes it had to make it an easy guide 17:30:59 if it's broken down into a billion steps and made easy to follow, it could well be a very useful tutorial / guide 17:31:13 17:31:19 popey: Do you wish to help with that then? 17:31:35 i dont have the time to contribute but could certainly review / test 17:31:42 popey: Ok thanks 17:32:16 Now that we've come up with some ideas shall we vote on them? 17:32:26 #voters AndrewMC ascenseur bachstudies czajkowski Ddorda highvoltage jpds lfaraone lhavelund nisshh noplamodo popey Puck` ryanakca shadeslayer JoeMaverickSett pedro3005 Kaia skfin 17:32:26 Current voters: AndrewMC Ddorda JoeMaverickSett Kaia Puck` ascenseur bachstudies czajkowski highvoltage jpds lfaraone lhavelund nisshh noplamodo pedro3005 popey ryanakca shadeslayer skfin 17:32:33 #vote Shall we vote? 17:32:33 Please vote on: Shall we vote? 17:32:33 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 17:32:39 +1 17:32:39 +1 received from noplamodo 17:32:43 +1 17:32:43 +1 17:32:46 +1 17:32:46 +1 received from AndrewMC 17:32:47 +1 17:32:47 +1 received from nisshh 17:32:51 d'oh! 17:32:51 +1 17:32:51 +1 received from JoeMaverickSett 17:32:55 +1 17:32:55 +1 received from shadeslayer 17:32:55 +0 :) If people want to, go ahead :) 17:33:01 +1 17:33:01 +1 received from skfin 17:33:33 #endvote 17:33:33 Voting ended on: Shall we vote? 17:33:33 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 17:33:33 Motion carried 17:34:00 popey: your vote wasnt added :( 17:34:07 #voters AndrewMC ascenseur bachstudies czajkowski Ddorda highvoltage jpds lfaraone lhavelund nisshh noplamodo popey Puck` ryanakca shadeslayer JoeMaverickSett pedro3005 Kaia skfin BasicXP 17:34:07 Current voters: AndrewMC BasicXP Ddorda JoeMaverickSett Kaia Puck` ascenseur bachstudies czajkowski highvoltage jpds lfaraone lhavelund nisshh noplamodo pedro3005 popey ryanakca shadeslayer skfin 17:34:17 shadeslayer: popey did +0 17:34:18 file a bug in meetingology :) 17:34:32 zkriesse: hehe.. but it shows Abstentions : 0 17:34:38 zkriesse: yeah, it wasn't counted as an abstent... what shadeslayer said 17:34:43 bug AlanBell :) 17:34:46 #vote Mentorship process, shall we implement!? 17:34:46 Please vote on: Mentorship process, shall we implement!? 17:34:46 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 17:34:55 OH I'll bug him 17:34:59 +1 17:35:01 +1 17:35:01 +1 received from nisshh 17:35:08 +0 17:35:11 +0 17:35:15 didn't work for me either 17:35:17 -0 17:35:18 +1 from me too... 17:35:19 #voters zkriesse 17:35:19 Current voters: AndrewMC BasicXP Ddorda JoeMaverickSett Kaia Puck` ascenseur bachstudies czajkowski highvoltage jpds lfaraone lhavelund nisshh noplamodo pedro3005 popey ryanakca shadeslayer skfin zkriesse 17:35:25 and that either 17:35:25 +1 17:35:25 +1 received from zkriesse 17:35:27 +1 17:35:27 +1 received from noplamodo 17:35:30 hehe 17:35:32 +1 17:35:32 +1 received from AndrewMC 17:35:34 0 17:35:34 0 received from BasicXP 17:35:36 +1 17:35:36 +1 received from shadeslayer 17:35:37 oh there 17:35:40 hehe 17:35:40 #voters BasicXP 17:35:40 Current voters: AndrewMC BasicXP Ddorda JoeMaverickSett Kaia Puck` ascenseur bachstudies czajkowski highvoltage jpds lfaraone lhavelund nisshh noplamodo pedro3005 popey ryanakca shadeslayer skfin zkriesse 17:35:45 -1 17:35:45 -1 received from czajkowski 17:35:58 +1 17:35:58 +1 received from JoeMaverickSett 17:36:04 i just don't get what mentorship is, that's why zero 17:36:04 +1 17:36:04 +1 received from shadeslayer 17:36:49 anyone else wish to vote? 17:37:05 #endvote 17:37:05 Voting ended on: Mentorship process, shall we implement!? 17:37:05 Votes for:6 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1 17:37:05 Motion carried 17:37:19 It seems that the bot counted two votes form shadeslayer 17:37:30 Ok our next order of business 17:37:38 #Topic WE HAVE A FORUM!!!!!!!! 17:37:38 TOPIC: WE HAVE A FORUM!!!!!!!! 17:37:43 :D 17:37:46 :) 17:37:50 uy-forums.net 17:37:51 We have a forum now....! 17:37:57 aye :D 17:37:58 head on over and sign up 17:38:01 #link http://www.uy-forums.net 17:38:15 signed up already... :D 17:38:25 then get a postin! 17:38:30 same, already signed up 17:38:36 heh 17:38:38 better add some languages to the forum 17:38:44 like russian for example 17:38:50 If and when ya'll sign up please start posting that way the mods can move you from the moderation que 17:39:17 yeah :D 17:39:18 although i have no problems of understanding english, others might 17:39:25 BasicXP: agreed 17:39:28 welcome kvarley 17:39:33 BasicXP: we will work on that 17:39:57 AndrewMC: if there is any need to help translating - contact me 17:40:07 BasicXP: We will indeed 17:40:07 BasicXP: ok thanks 17:40:11 BasicXP: You can count on it 17:40:15 zkriesse: will i get a mail saying that a new post was created? 17:40:16 okay 17:40:30 shadeslayer: IF you subscribe to the thread yes 17:40:36 oh 17:40:37 and the design... i saw the ubuntu one only after registering 17:40:49 shadeslayer: But it's not an automatic function 17:40:54 i see that's phpbb and default theme can be easily changed 17:40:56 BasicXP: Yes we're working on that as well 17:41:12 that's just a parameter somewhere around in the admin panel 17:41:21 BasicXP: I've got to go in the ACP and fix it 17:41:27 umhum 17:41:54 Ok our last topic, by AndrewMC 17:41:58 #Chair AndrewMC 17:41:58 Current chairs: AndrewMC zkriesse 17:42:03 and i think the style should be upgraded a bit 17:42:09 i can try to do that as well 17:42:11 ok 17:42:12 Hey everyone. As we all know freenode has quite a bit of clone and bot attacks. To help and prevent this from ever happening in UY's channel i highly suggest that all of you set enforce on with NickServ as it will set a 30 second time limit on identifying and if the time limit has been exceeded with no identifying your nick is changed it is done via /ns set enforce on 17:42:23 AndrewMC: add your topic dude! 17:42:36 #topic Freenode/Nickserv registration 17:42:36 TOPIC: Freenode/Nickserv registration 17:42:41 AndrewMC: already have that :) 17:43:01 zkriesse: not registraition.... enforce 17:43:26 if your client can auto idenitfy you will see no change 17:43:34 zkriesse: contact me please after the meeting, wanna talk bout the forum 17:43:47 only if someone tries to imperonate you they will not be able too 17:44:53 i thought it was impossible if your nick was registered? 17:45:15 nisshh: if you don't have enforce set on then it's possible 17:45:18 nisshh: no.. 17:45:23 ah ok 17:45:23 nisshh: You should enforce auth for your nick too 17:45:24 you can still /nick foo 17:45:29 right 17:45:32 when foo is registered 17:45:50 And its done by /msg NickServ set enforce on 17:45:52 ns will ask for the password, but wont change your nick 17:45:55 so if i set enforce, i can still auto identify with freenode? 17:46:00 nisshh: yes 17:46:04 ok 17:46:31 nisshh: It just makes your nick impossible to use withouth authenticating. 17:46:37 In 30s 17:46:59 yep 17:48:12 We should implement this to irc basics doc too :P 17:48:27 yea 17:48:52 OK so final topic of 17:48:56 ok, i put enforce on 17:49:17 #Topic Any concerns, questions, or ideas? Please, share with the rest of the class! 17:49:17 TOPIC: Any concerns, questions, or ideas? Please, share with the rest of the class! 17:49:54 forum improvement 17:50:09 i would like to do that 17:50:11 BasicXP: what do you mean 17:50:20 wait a sec please 17:50:28 What kind of IRC doc we should actually write? Ubuntu wiki has some already and we shouldn't just rewrite them 17:50:41 i aggree skfin 17:50:54 skfin: One that includes like, proper etiquette 17:51:04 And freenode stuff, ok 17:51:11 Unless you wish to improve what is already there 17:51:16 Screencasts would be cool as I said 17:51:19 and specific irc client stuff 17:51:40 * BasicXP is back 17:51:42 yes 17:51:46 the screencasts team could do with help! 17:52:03 AndrewMC: forum design (has to be upgraded), languages (have to be installed) etc. 17:52:13 popey: i might be able to make some once i get my new computer next month 17:52:14 BasicXP: why design upgrade? 17:52:22 nisshh: There are already: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#IRC%20Clients' 17:52:25 cuz that's the old font, old logo 17:52:31 Remove ' from end 17:52:36 BasicXP: we are only about 3 weeks old 17:52:39 we are working on it 17:52:42 skfin: i mean docs that cover MORE clients 17:52:44 oh okay 17:52:54 nisshh: Ok... 17:52:55 BasicXP: Yeah we're still working/improving it 17:52:56 no the team but forums 17:53:18 skfin: there are newer ones like weechat and stuff that arent covered 17:53:31 OK! 17:53:38 I think that about covers our meeting.... 17:53:45 hehe 17:54:16 Thanks all for the volunteering for projects, ideas, showing up, and just being awesome! 17:54:31 * zkriesse starts a team highfive 17:54:42 *highfive* 17:54:46 * JoeMaverickSett high5 17:54:49 *highfive* 17:54:51 * AndrewMC high5 17:55:10 zkriesse: this could become a tradition for this channel 17:55:10 Thanks all! 17:55:15 :) 17:55:15 nisshh: it could indeed 17:55:18 * BasicXP highfives 17:55:20 #endmeeting }}} ---- CategoryUbuntuYouth