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== Triage Process ==

The [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam|Mozilla Team]] has a NEW/Incomplete processing described at their [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook|Triagers Handbook]], Please read that information before starting to doing some triage.
 
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## You should add any stock responses that might be useful on this page as well.
Firefox stock response for collecting more information:

{{{
Thanks for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Could you please add more information for it by looking to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs , Thanks in advance.
}}}
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== ### New Bugs == == 39 New Bugs ==
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||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/426828|426828 ]] || firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/425593|425593 ]] || firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/424884|424884 ]] || firefox crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/424746|424746 ]] || firefox download xml-error || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/423490|423490 ]] || firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__g_type_check_instance_cast() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422379|422379 ]] || [karmic][apport] firefox crashed with signal 5 in gdk_pixmap_foreign_new_for_screen() upon closing Adobe Reader 8 tab || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422361|422361 ]] || [karmic] after upgrading from firefox 3.5 on jaunty to firefox 3.5 on karmic, fonts have too much spacing || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422152|422152 ]] || firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in JS_DHashTableEnumerate() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/421438|421438 ]] || BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) - with symbols and backtrace || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/421075|421075 ]] || tabs detach into a new window || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/419566|419566 ]] || Firefox 3.5.4pre dies with "bus error" || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418241|418241 ]] || Bad image quality || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/417729|417729 ]] || Sluggish cursor movement when firefox is running for several hours. || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/417582|417582 ]] || Firefox can't detect/change KDE default browser || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/416613|416613 ]] || firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_run_dispose() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/415754|415754 ]] || firefox hangs when opening directory with a lot of files at ubuntuone.com || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/414571|414571 ]] || firefox crashed with signal 5 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/414139|414139 ]] || [Karmic] firefox 3.5 bookmark upgrade failure || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/413737|413737 ]] || firefox crashed with signal 5 in __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/413233|413233 ]] || firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/413149|413149 ]] || Bookmark folder doesn't respond while page loads || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412780|412780 ]] || firefox crashed with signal 5 in _XError() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412698|412698 ]] || print in svg creates ps-file || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412010|412010 ]] || firefox crashed with signal 5 in _XError() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/411695|411695 ]] || MASTER - firefox crashed with signal 5 in _XError() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/411476|411476 ]] || Firefox 3.5 should not use the ubuntu logout noises as default sounds || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/410836|410836 ]] || While firefox startup, it frozen || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/410558|410558 ]] || Can't play video on FF 3.5 What's New page || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407813|407813 ]] || Arabic fonts are bad || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406352|406352 ]] || Needs correctly set Preferred applications>Browser gconf key (fails on manual Firefox 3.5 installs) || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398583|398583 ]] || [karmic] Trash left on screen when scrolling with another window on top of Firefox. || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/396275|396275 ]] || Firefox Downloads window opens doc files in Wine instead of OpenOffice || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390975|390975 ]] || fonts problem if kde+gnome || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/383706|383706 ]] || "Would you like to save this file?" dialog should indicate why it provides limited options || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/375637|375637 ]] || Uninstalling Firefox 3.5 does not remove all gconf entries || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/375205|375205 ]] || resizing "Organize Bookmarks" window returns you to the top of the bookmark list || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363666|363666 ]] || Firefox font size is not adjusting to Gnome font size || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/243895|243895 ]] || Firefox should respect desktop-wide MIME/gvfs-open/xdg-open application+filetype choices || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/199576|199576 ]] || gzip'ed text files don't display inline || ||
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== ### Incomplete Bugs == == 33 Incomplete Bugs ==
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||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/421439|421439 ]] || session restarts without prompting after crash in firefox-3.5 || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420000|420000 ]] || no sound with flash in firefox || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/419892|419892 ]] || Firefox doesn't obey font appearance settings || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/419403|419403 ]] || No youtube search option || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418790|418790 ]] || Karmic Firefox 3.5.2 not playing streaming wmv in browser window || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/418602|418602 ]] || Firefox changes application preferences from Evince to Acoread || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/415084|415084 ]] || Can't update things like my myspace status in Firefox || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/414389|414389 ]] || Firefox 3.5.2 freezes when accessing the Java plug-in || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/413051|413051 ]] || browser freezes while searching 20% of time || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412647|412647 ]] || Firefox is not able to play mp4 <video> tags || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/408720|408720 ]] || Frequent crash on shutdown || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407855|407855 ]] || firefox awesome bar doesnt connect to ubuntu.com || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406940|406940 ]] || Icon creation problem after installing Firefox v. 3.5.xx || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406792|406792 ]] || memory cache never used || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/403439|403439 ]] || Cannot cancel print to pdf operation || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/403329|403329 ]] || Some websites, like gmail, appear only partially, just lines and blocks and some icons || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/403240|403240 ]] || Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko) crashes when entering non-existing url || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/401859|401859 ]] || scrolling with keyboard doesn't always work || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/400853|400853 ]] || package firefox-3.5 3.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso installed post-installation script devolvió el código de salida de error 2 || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/399380|399380 ]] || comcastsupport.com web chat works with firefox-3.0, doesn't work with firefox-3.5 || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/397586|397586 ]] || firefox 3.5 - No sound in HTML5 videos || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/394607|394607 ]] || firefox-3.5 opens external links in current tab || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/394467|394467 ]] || Firefox 3.5 does not detect flash player || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/390647|390647 ]] || firefox-3.5 does not give up addon updates procedure || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/386857|386857 ]] || Firefox hangs with ctrl-F for text on large ViewVC page || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/386566|386566 ]] || firefox-3.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in __tls_get_addr() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/382444|382444 ]] || failure message from server results in cached page with the first few bytes overwritten by the failure message || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/308666|308666 ]] || does not show my bookmarks in toolbar any more || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/281526|281526 ]] || Firefox freezes with 100% CPU after resuming from suspend || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268406|268406 ]] || Mozilla Firefox displayed zh-cn under zh-hk instead of zh-tw. || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/135388|135388 ]] || Firefox fails to display the Timidity GUI || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/117132|117132 ]] || Firefox ignores gnome theme's specific menu bar text color || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/67226|67226 ]] || Font is too blurry in firefox interface and pages rendering || ||
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== ### Confirmed Bugs == == 13 Confirmed Bugs ==
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== ### Bugs with Patches ==
'''To mark it off the list you should:'''
 
  * Verify if the patch really is a patch.
  * If it is not, unmark it as a patch.
  * If it is, get the bug triaged and looked by the maintainer.

||<rowbgcolor="#FFEBBB"> '''Bug''' || '''Subject''' || '''Triager''' ||

== ### Bugs to be forwarded Upstream ==
'''To mark it off the list you should:'''

  * Verify the bug is still not fixed
  * Search in the [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/|Upstream bug tracker]] for a similar report, if there is no one, open a new report and add a [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches|Bug watch]] to the downstream report.
  * Set status to triaged [[UbuntuBugControl]]

||<rowbgcolor="#FFEBBB"> '''Bug''' || '''Subject''' || '''Triager''' ||

== ### Private bugs to be reviewed ==
'''To mark it off the list you should:'''

   * [[UbuntuBugControl]] verify that the report does not contains sensitive data.
   * If it does not, Change the Visibility status to Public.
   * If the report does contains sensitive data, add a comment explaining on why it will keep on the Private status.

||<rowbgcolor="#FFEBBB"> '''Bug''' || '''Subject''' || '''Triager''' ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/413950|413950 ]] || Incorrect cursor positioning in Firefox. || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/411707|411707 ]] || Firefox 3.5 Has Font Problem || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/410568|410568 ]] || Firefox 3.5 crashes frequently || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/402804|402804 ]] || multisearch shows chrome:// url for new tabs on startup with session restore || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/398449|398449 ]] || Wrong sound plays when alert box requests attention || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/397211|397211 ]] || Shiretoko user agent string breaks compatibilty with major websites || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/396786|396786 ]] || Default theme missing in Firefox 3.5 || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/396252|396252 ]] || Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko): middle-click on link opens _two_ tabs || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395671|395671 ]] || Copy/Paste Text from FreeMind to Google Documents causes Firefox to crash with SIGSEGV in strcmp() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/359407|359407 ]] || Jaunty icedtea6-plugin doesn’t work in Firefox 3.5 || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353881|353881 ]] || firefox-3.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in XRE_ParseAppData() || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343389|343389 ]] || Inconsistent kerning in Firefox || ||
||<rowstyle="background-color: ;"> [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/262415|262415 ]] || Requesting Firefox web browser well integrated in KDE (KDE/Qt frontend) || ||
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This list is just a nibble of the [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/TARGET|bigger picture]]. This list is just a nibble of the [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5|bigger picture]].

This week's Hug Day will focus on Firefox-3.5!

After you have triaged or fixed a bug put your Launchpad Id in the last column and set the row's background to green by adding lightgreen in the first cell of the column after rowbgcolor=. This will let people know that the bug in that row has been hugged.

Tools

For doing your work easier during the hug days remember to use the hugday-tools.

5-a-day-ing

To sign up for 5-A-Day participation, please add your Launchpad ID to the Participants column. (This is not the email address you used for signing up for LP, but the last part of the URL that https://launchpad.net/people/+me redirects you to (everything behind the ~ sign)):

  1. Click on https://launchpad.net/people/+me

  2. Look at the URL bar, everything behind the ~ sign is your Launchpad ID.

Also sign up here: https://launchpad.net/~5-a-day-participants/+join

Triage Process

The Mozilla Team has a NEW/Incomplete processing described at their Triagers Handbook, Please read that information before starting to doing some triage.

Stock Responses

Firefox stock response for collecting more information:

Thanks for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Could you please add more information for it by looking to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs , Thanks in advance.

For problem specific Stock Responses see: Bugs/Responses

39 New Bugs

To mark it off the list you should:

  • Verify the bug is still not fixed
  • Request any needed info, Subscribe, Status to incomplete or

  • Set status to Confirmed

Bug

Subject

Triager

426828

firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance()

425593

firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()

424884

firefox crashed with SIGABRT in kernel_vsyscall()

424746

firefox download xml-error

423490

firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in IAg_type_check_instance_cast()

422379

[karmic][apport] firefox crashed with signal 5 in gdk_pixmap_foreign_new_for_screen() upon closing Adobe Reader 8 tab

422361

[karmic] after upgrading from firefox 3.5 on jaunty to firefox 3.5 on karmic, fonts have too much spacing

422152

firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in JS_DHashTableEnumerate()

421438

BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) - with symbols and backtrace

421075

tabs detach into a new window

419566

Firefox 3.5.4pre dies with "bus error"

418241

Bad image quality

417729

Sluggish cursor movement when firefox is running for several hours.

417582

Firefox can't detect/change KDE default browser

416613

firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_run_dispose()

415754

firefox hangs when opening directory with a lot of files at ubuntuone.com

414571

firefox crashed with signal 5 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2()

414139

[Karmic] firefox 3.5 bookmark upgrade failure

413737

firefox crashed with signal 5 in pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt()

413233

firefox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()

413149

Bookmark folder doesn't respond while page loads

412780

firefox crashed with signal 5 in _XError()

412698

print in svg creates ps-file

412010

firefox crashed with signal 5 in _XError()

411695

MASTER - firefox crashed with signal 5 in _XError()

411476

Firefox 3.5 should not use the ubuntu logout noises as default sounds

410836

While firefox startup, it frozen

410558

Can't play video on FF 3.5 What's New page

407813

Arabic fonts are bad

406352

Needs correctly set Preferred applications>Browser gconf key (fails on manual Firefox 3.5 installs)

398583

[karmic] Trash left on screen when scrolling with another window on top of Firefox.

396275

Firefox Downloads window opens doc files in Wine instead of OpenOffice

390975

fonts problem if kde+gnome

383706

"Would you like to save this file?" dialog should indicate why it provides limited options

375637

Uninstalling Firefox 3.5 does not remove all gconf entries

375205

resizing "Organize Bookmarks" window returns you to the top of the bookmark list

363666

Firefox font size is not adjusting to Gnome font size

243895

Firefox should respect desktop-wide MIME/gvfs-open/xdg-open application+filetype choices

199576

gzip'ed text files don't display inline

33 Incomplete Bugs

To mark it off the list you should:

  • Change the bug's status to "Confirmed" or "Triaged" if the reporter replied with enough information or

  • Ask a secondary follow up question and subscribe to the bug report

Bug

Subject

Triager

421439

session restarts without prompting after crash in firefox-3.5

420000

no sound with flash in firefox

419892

Firefox doesn't obey font appearance settings

419403

No youtube search option

418790

Karmic Firefox 3.5.2 not playing streaming wmv in browser window

418602

Firefox changes application preferences from Evince to Acoread

415084

Can't update things like my myspace status in Firefox

414389

Firefox 3.5.2 freezes when accessing the Java plug-in

413051

browser freezes while searching 20% of time

412647

Firefox is not able to play mp4 <video> tags

408720

Frequent crash on shutdown

407855

firefox awesome bar doesnt connect to ubuntu.com

406940

Icon creation problem after installing Firefox v. 3.5.xx

406792

memory cache never used

403439

Cannot cancel print to pdf operation

403329

Some websites, like gmail, appear only partially, just lines and blocks and some icons

403240

Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko) crashes when entering non-existing url

401859

scrolling with keyboard doesn't always work

400853

package firefox-3.5 3.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso installed post-installation script devolvió el código de salida de error 2

399380

comcastsupport.com web chat works with firefox-3.0, doesn't work with firefox-3.5

397586

firefox 3.5 - No sound in HTML5 videos

394607

firefox-3.5 opens external links in current tab

394467

Firefox 3.5 does not detect flash player

390647

firefox-3.5 does not give up addon updates procedure

386857

Firefox hangs with ctrl-F for text on large ViewVC page

386566

firefox-3.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in tls_get_addr()

382444

failure message from server results in cached page with the first few bytes overwritten by the failure message

308666

does not show my bookmarks in toolbar any more

281526

Firefox freezes with 100% CPU after resuming from suspend

268406

Mozilla Firefox displayed zh-cn under zh-hk instead of zh-tw.

135388

Firefox fails to display the Timidity GUI

117132

Firefox ignores gnome theme's specific menu bar text color

67226

Font is too blurry in firefox interface and pages rendering

13 Confirmed Bugs

To mark it off the list you should:

  • Verify the bug is still not fixed
  • Request any needed info, Subscribe, Status to incomplete or
  • Set status to triaged UbuntuBugControl

Bug

Subject

Triager

413950

Incorrect cursor positioning in Firefox.

411707

Firefox 3.5 Has Font Problem

410568

Firefox 3.5 crashes frequently

402804

multisearch shows chrome:// url for new tabs on startup with session restore

398449

Wrong sound plays when alert box requests attention

397211

Shiretoko user agent string breaks compatibilty with major websites

396786

Default theme missing in Firefox 3.5

396252

Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko): middle-click on link opens _two_ tabs

395671

Copy/Paste Text from FreeMind to Google Documents causes Firefox to crash with SIGSEGV in strcmp()

359407

Jaunty icedtea6-plugin doesn’t work in Firefox 3.5

353881

firefox-3.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in XRE_ParseAppData()

343389

Inconsistent kerning in Firefox

262415

Requesting Firefox web browser well integrated in KDE (KDE/Qt frontend)

Progress

http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/complete-graphs/firefox-3.5/plots/firefox-3.5-1day-triaging.png

More Bugs

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