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= Meeting opened by danfish at 20:00 =
 * '''<<Verbatim(popey)>>''' has a loco council meeting so wont be here :(

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> Give a o/ if you're here

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> present

 <'''<<Verbatim(freesitebuilder)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(Yorvyk)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda/

||<#FF5555>'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda/''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> righty, let's crack on with the agenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> as always if you've done anything this month, please update the report

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/10/October

||<#FF5555>''https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/10/October''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> links to release party pictures would be good to put there

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> most definitely

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> yes.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> an email to the mailing list may be an idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [ACTION] danfish to email the mailing list re piccies

||<#FF5555>'' danfish to email the mailing list re piccies''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [PROGRESS REPORT] daubers to mail list relating to progress and next steps on the improving support project

===  daubers to mail list relating to progress and next steps on the improving support project ===
 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> daubers around?

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> this is interesting.

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> well, there was definitely a mail sent to the list asking where everybody was based

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> yes brunogirin

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> it also may link into some of the ideas for the new website re location etc

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> dont we have a location map onthe beta site

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> there's the beginnings of one AFAIK

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> moving on

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> a beginning is good,

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [PROGRESS REPORT] CyberJacob to investigate automating the profile roulette page

===  CyberJacob to investigate automating the profile roulette page ===
 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> haven't heard anything further on that

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> i dont know anything about this.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> I think it got carried over from the last meeting as well - probably best let it drop

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> ok,

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> lets move on from that, there might be a better way to do it . . .

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> OK

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [PROGRESS REPORT] danfish - Distributed Storage

===  danfish - Distributed Storage ===
 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> oh - that's me :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Projects/DistributedBackup

||<#FF5555>'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Projects/DistributedBackup''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> a few meetings back I proposed looking into p2p distributed storage for archival purposes

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> something we could offer team members

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> interesting idea.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> I had a poke round some of the projects I could find, including one of the proprietary ones (wuala)

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> ok.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> tbh, most of the projects I found have been abandoned for a number of reasons

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> the legal situation for one is fraught with problems

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> understandable.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> however, from the mailing list, a few people were interested in dropbox/ubuntu one alternatives

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> maybe that's an idea for the future

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> yes, i agree.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> moving on to...

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [TOPIC] AlanBell - The new team website

==  AlanBell - The new team website ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [LINK]http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/

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 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> right

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> so, that is the new website we are working on

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> [LINK] http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website

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 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> that is the discussion document where we are throwing ideas down

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> anyone with ideas should join in the pad document for a start

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> looking for features to implement mostly at the moment

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> or tweaks to the aesthetics

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> i will think,

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> then we will move on to content type stuff

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> "Tweets We Twote" :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> not duplicating generic Ubuntu stuff, focussing on UK stuff

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> it's taking shape nicely

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> we can do things like funky map integration, presenting the IRC stuff better

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> provide news and links to events etc.

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> It is looking great so far, really good work.

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> any burning comments anyone wants to make now? or discuss more in the planning document

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> i havent managed to have a good look at it yet,

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> I think discuss more in the planning document and review at next meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> yup

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> ok.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [ACTION] AlanBell - discuss ongoing work re new website

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 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [TOPIC] AlanBell - Christmas Party

==  AlanBell - Christmas Party ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> me again

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> is it nearly that time already!

 <'''<<Verbatim(jacobw)>>'''> :o

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> ok, so last year we had a party, it was fun

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> [LINK] http://picasaweb.google.com/alanbelltolc/UbuntuUK <- fun

||<#FF5555>'' http://picasaweb.google.com/alanbelltolc/UbuntuUK <- fun''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> so lets do it again \o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> \o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> any dates in mind?

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> I spoke to a venue called the Hub today, sister site of the place we did last year

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> the one in king's cross?

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 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> http://kingscross.the-hub.net/public/

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> they are thinking of doing a shared christmas event

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> so it would be several groups at once

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> as I said on the list, I live just up the road from there so if you need help organising, count me in

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> great

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> So take some CDs to hand out! ;-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> it might be on the 16th of December (a Thursday)

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> JamesTait-HTC: certainly!

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> or I could tell them we would prefer Friday 17th

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> opinions?

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> friday might be better for those workingpeople.

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> Thursday

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> do we want to vote?

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> IIRC, the Canonical bash is on the 9th.

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> hmm, not really

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> Lots of people will have already got Christmas doos organised for Fridays.

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> i wont be ble to get to london, so no vote from me,

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> Not saying that should influence anything, just FYI.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> very true TheOpenSourcerer

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> ok, so Thursday or Friday both have their merits

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> I will continue the discussion with them then

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> At that time of year, everyone wants to party as much as possible. So why clog up a busy Friday the week before Christmas.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> are you happy to lead on that AlanBell, with brunogirin to help?

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> TheOpenSourcerer: Thursday is looking more probable certainly

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> danfish: yup

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [ACTION] AlanBell - liaise with the Hub re XMAS bash, provisionally for Thurs 16th

||<#FF5555>'' AlanBell - liaise with the Hub re XMAS bash, provisionally for Thurs 16th''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [TOPIC] danfish - Ubuntu and OSS in Public Sector Event

==  danfish - Ubuntu and OSS in Public Sector Event ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> me again

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> a good event (though I couldn't go) was held by AlanBell and others re ubuntu in business

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> with the squeeze in public sector finances occuring, a similar event to target the public sector is an idea I've been brewing

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> i like that ide, danfish

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> idea*

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> do we want to do public sector in general or more health oriented?

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> I think both really

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> when, where, what help do you need?

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> danfish: It's a good idea.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> It's gonna take some planning and advertising

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> so any help welcome

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> but I was thinking next year - Feb/March

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> I think Public Sector is an impossibly broad target to start from, maybe select specific targets to gain momentum?

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> I can help with passing the word around, in fact I've mentioned it to some people I know in the health sector and got some interest

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> There is increasing levels of interest and equal amounts of fear and uncertainty. We should take the opportunity to satisfy and help.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> We could start with health, as the microsoft exclusivity deal has now ended

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> but then I'm biased :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> yes

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> the BCS are holding an event next week

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [LINK] http://www.oshi-uk.com/

||<#FF5555>'' http://www.oshi-uk.com/''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> I don't know your background, but if you have contacts already we should capitalise!

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> I had that in my diary but will not be able to make it now.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> which I'm hoping to attend. I think this may be good place to judge the 'mood'

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> Sounds like a plan.

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> The Westminster Eforum I spoke at last month was also interesting.

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> A whole event on Open Source.

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> The Policy Makers know what's coming.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> TheOpenSourcerer: I saw your transcript - good talk

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> TY

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> 5 minutes isn't long enough really.

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> how do we intend to run the event? talks + demos like last time?

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> Not sure on the demo front.

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> Success stories.

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> Yes. JamesTait-HTC

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> I'm not sure we can only focus on Ubuntu - it may have to be more OSS

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> in general

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> yes it would open up the discussion a bit

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> OK - I'll put some time into this one and report back at the next meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> any leads or contacts anyone can provide would be most welcome

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> danfish, do you need help with ideas? I can also help with leads

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> brunogirin: *any* help appreciated

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> maybe an etherpad for this one

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> good idea

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> and what about an action for the both of us to start brainstorming ideas and come back with progress at the next meeting?

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [LINK]http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/OSSinPublicSector

||<#FF5555>''http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/OSSinPublicSector''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> brunogirin: excellent

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [ACTION] danfish and brunogirin to brainstorm re public sector OSS event

||<#FF5555>'' danfish and brunogirin to brainstorm re public sector OSS event''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> (and anyone else!)

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> moving on

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [TOPIC] danfish - Any Other Business

==  danfish - Any Other Business ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> any takers?

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> UDS

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> next week

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> anyone here going?

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> no, too far

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> there are lots of sessions happening, do join in and get your opinions across

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> Or participating remotely?

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> czajkowski posted a great article on remote participation, go read it

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> Indeed.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [LINK]http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/10/19/how-to-remote-participate-at-uds-n-and-get-the-most-of-the-sessions/

||<#FF5555>''http://www.lczajkowski.com/2010/10/19/how-to-remote-participate-at-uds-n-and-get-the-most-of-the-sessions/''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> any other, other business?

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> Ok then

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [TOPIC] Date of next meeting

==  Date of next meeting ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> we left a 3 week gap this time instead of the 'normal' 2 weeks

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> any preferences?

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> nothing specific here, no

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> Same time works for me, not fussed about the day.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> let's say 2 weeks then

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> 2nd November?

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> ok.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> 2nd November 2010 at 20:00 UTC (21:00 BST)

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> ok

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> ^ sole contribution from me

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> Will we still be in BST then?

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> No. UTC

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> JamesTait-HTC: good point - no

 <'''<<Verbatim(jacobw)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> s/UTC/GMT

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> lol

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> \o/ timezones

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> 9PM dammit

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> heh

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> UTC==GMT

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> no, it isnt

 <'''<<Verbatim(brunogirin)>>'''> so that would be 21:00 UTC (21:00 GMT) then?

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> AlanBell: http://meow.popey.com/

 <'''<<Verbatim(webpigeon_laptop)>>'''> I didn't think UTC accounted for timezones

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> So 21:00 UTC/GMT

 <'''<<Verbatim(webpigeon_laptop)>>'''> sorry leap secounds

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> 2nd November 2010 at 21:00 GMT/UTC/GMB/GBH

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> 21:00 "UK Time" :D

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [TOPIC] Chair for next meeting

==  Chair for next meeting ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(webpigeon_laptop)>>'''> PST (popey standard time)

 <'''<<Verbatim(brobostigon)>>'''> lol

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> 21:00 Popey'o'clock

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> o/ volunteers

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> "In casual use, when fractions of a second are not important, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) can be considered equivalent to UTC or UT1."

 <'''<<Verbatim(popey)>>'''> I'll have you know there's nothing casual going on here Mister Lord!

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> In technical contexts, usage of "GMT" is avoided; the unambiguous terminology "UTC" or "UT1" is preferred.

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> Hah

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> was that TheOpenSourcerer volunteering?

 <'''<<Verbatim(freesitebuilder)>>'''> and on the third stroke ...

 <'''<<Verbatim(AlanBell)>>'''> danfish: popey volunteered

 <'''<<Verbatim(TheOpenSourcerer)>>'''> danfish (21:57:38) popey: o/ volunteers

 <'''<<Verbatim(webpigeon_laptop)>>'''> freesitebuilder, the time will be... KITTY \o/ ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> oh yeah, my bad

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> Seconded.

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> [ACTION] popey to chair next meeting

||<#FF5555>'' popey to chair next meeting''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(JamesTait-HTC)>>'''> EOM?

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> \o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(danfish)>>'''> #endmeeting

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= Meeting closed at 21:00 =
== People Present ==
 * popey

 * AlanBell

 * brunogirin

 * danfish

 * brobostigon

 * freesitebuilder

 * Yorvyk

 * JamesTait-HTC

 * jacobw

 * TheOpenSourcerer

 * webpigeon_laptop

== Actions Recorded ==
 *  danfish to email the mailing list re piccies

 *  AlanBell - discuss ongoing work re new website

 *  AlanBell - liaise with the Hub re XMAS bash, provisionally for Thurs 16th

 *  danfish and brunogirin to brainstorm re public sector OSS event

 *  popey to chair next meeting