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= Meeting opened by pedro_ at 19:00 =
 <'''<<Verbatim(kamusin)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> Hello everybody and welcome to our weekly meeting!

 <'''<<Verbatim(sense)>>'''> Ah, winter time!

 <'''<<Verbatim(sense)>>'''> hello everybody

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> As usual agenda for today can be found here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [TOPIC] Agenda

==  Agenda ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> # review previous action items (all)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> # Bugday -- pedro_

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> # UDS Feedback -- all

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> # Selection of new chair -- pedro_

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> i don't see the SRU report there, is that ok jibel ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> no that's not ok

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> ok let's fix that then ;-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> there IS an sru report today, as usual

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> thanks jibel

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> ok let's go for the first item and then jibel can give us the SRU report

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [TOPIC] review previous action items

==  review previous action items ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> according to the log : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/20101103

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> there's only 1 action item for this meeting

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> which is: pedro_ to reset Google calendar for QA meetings

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> and that's already done

 * '''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>''' raises hand

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> but looks like Google calendar went crazy

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> and it's showing all the meetings 1 hour later

 * '''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>''' lowers hand again

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> is that due to the DST ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> charlie-tca, go ahead please :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> you said it already

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> ah ok, so i guess we need to adjust the calendar again?

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> or wait to see if it fixes itself soon

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> ok let's wait till the end of the week otherwise i'll contact the fridge folks again

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [TOPIC] SRU Testing

==  SRU Testing ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> jibel, the stage is all yours

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> Hello all

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> Over the past weeks 68 packages have been published to stable releases

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> The list is available at

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/SRUReports/2010-11-10

||<#FF5555>'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/SRUReports/2010-11-10''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> * A total of 37 packages have been published to maverick

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 9 packages published to maverick-updates: chromium-browser, gdb, hplip, kde4libs, linux-linaro, linux-meta-linaro, linux-ti-omap4, system-config-printer, sysvinit

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 4 packages published to maverick-security: cups, flashplugin-nonfree, freetype, pidgin

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 24 packages published to maverick-proposed: apparmor, apport, armel-cross-toolchain-base, bzr-builddeb, cairo, chromium-browser, eclipse-cdt, eglibc, evolution, gnome-keyring, humanity-icon-theme,  light-themes, linux, linux-ti-omap4, nautilus, nautilus-share, openldap, pianobar, plymouth, rhythmbox, software-center, vino, x-loader, xserver-xorg-video-intel

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> * A total of 16 packages have been published to lucid

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 4 packages published to lucid-updates: chromium-browser, docky, redhat-cluster, udev

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 5 packages published to lucid-security: cups, flashplugin-nonfree, freetype, libvirt, pidgin

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 7 packages published to lucid-proposed: chromium-browser, debian-installer, dnspython, evolution, glusterfs, linux-meta, plymouth

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> * A total of 9 packages have been published to karmic

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 3 packages published to karmic-updates: linux, linux-mvl-dove, xserver-xorg-video-intel

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 4 packages published to karmic-security: cups, flashplugin-nonfree, freetype, pidgin

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''>   * 2 packages published to karmic-proposed: mesa, tomboy

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> * 4 packages published to hardy-security: cupsys, flashplugin-nonfree, freetype, pidgin

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> * 2 packages published to dapper-security: cupsys, freetype

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> Thanks to Evan Broder (ebroder), DLCBurggraaff, Claudio Veschetti, D Tangman, dicairo, eballetbo, Gary M (game2), Irihapeti, John Rigby, Daniel Kulesz, Louis-Dominique Dubeau, Torez Smith, Martijn, mypc, NTolerance, Riccardo Murri, Rohan Garg (evilshadeslayer), madbiologist, Sebastien JAN (sebjan), Scott Howard (showard), The Loeki and Wolfgang Kufner for testing packages in -proposed.

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> As always, you can see the current set of packages needing testing in the -proposed queue at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html . Your assistance in testing is always appreciated!

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> indeed thanks a lot to all the contributors :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> any comment/question ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> any questions for jibel?

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> heh

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> ok then, one more thing.

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> Last week we talked about adding update testing as opportunities in Harvest.

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> Its done, congrats to bdmurray !

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> awesome news!

 * '''<<Verbatim(bdmurray)>>''' waves

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> thanks bdmurray!

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> To see it live, go to http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/, in the opportunities list on the left, you'll find update-testing-RELEASE

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> Checking these items will display the current SRUs (uncheck the limit on packages)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> nice nice :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> anything else jibel ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> no, that's all for today

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> jibel, ok, thank you!

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [TOPIC] Bugdays

==  Bugdays ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> ok long time without having a bug day

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> for tomorrow we organized one for the Bugs without a package: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20101111

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> as you can see there, the vast majority of the bugs were already triaged!

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> so we might need to add some more bugs to that list ;-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(bdmurray)>>'''> heh, awesome

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> thanks to our rocking contributors : komputes, kamus, mistrynitesh and yofel for their amazing work

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> Great!

 <'''<<Verbatim(komputes)>>'''> pedro_: and the bugday didn't even start yet ;)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> let's add another 100 for tomorrow :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(komputes)>>'''> pedro_: lets

 <'''<<Verbatim(komputes)>>'''> :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> komputes, that makes you even more amazing :-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(komputes)>>'''> hehe

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> pedro_, don't be shy. add the remaining 513 bugs without a package and see how low we can go.

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> as always if you have an idea please add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> jibel, heh only if you help us too ;-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> ok lets roll

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> ok, I need some karma

 * '''<<Verbatim(kamusin)>>''' jibel, yes! we can do it :)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [TOPIC] UDS Feedback

==  UDS Feedback ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> i see that item also included on the previous meeting agenda

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> is there anything else to discuss or that was added/leaved there for mistake?

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> marjo, ^

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> I think pedro_ wasn't here to discuss his stuff, maybe?

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> pedro_ left there by mistake

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> charlie-tca, we discussed our items at the bugsquad meeting anyways

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> ok next item on the agenda is

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [TOPIC] AOB

==  AOB ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> anything else to raise, discuss, announce, etc?

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> pedro: yes

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> please go ahead marjo

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> blueprints reminder: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu?searchtext=qa-n

 * '''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>''' pass the mic to marjo

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> please review and update the blueprints assigned to you, so we can finalize all blueprints by end of this week

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> thx

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> that's it from me, pedro_

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> thank you marjo

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> anything else guys?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> go for it jibel

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> with DST this meeting time is not really convenient can we move it by 1 hour ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> in europe it 2000

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> or 8:00PM

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> eek...

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> ditto

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> same to ara then

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> so 1 hour backwards, 1800 UTC ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> same to all the community members in europe

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> excepted UK.

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> 1800 UTC sounds good to everybody ?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> lets vote

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> jibel: we chose 1700 and 1900 a few months ago, so that we can accommodate as many time zones as possible (independent of DST)

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(mainerror)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> wait wait wait

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> wait

 <'''<<Verbatim(kamusin)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [VOTE]

||<#55FF55>''Motion: ''||
 * '''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>''' waits

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> now you can vote

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(mainerror)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(kamusin)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> Keep in mind, every other week we meet two hours earlier

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> +1

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> folks: please see my note above!

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> jibel: we chose 1700 and 1900 a few months ago, so that we can accommodate as many time zones as possible (independent of DST)

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> hum

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> remember?!

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> but is not good now since the application of DST

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> perhaps 1600 and 1800?

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> That seems wrong. Wasn't 20:00 UTC the most popular hour?

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> marjo, yes, I remember.

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> charlie-tca: the compromise we reached was to flip every other week

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> that's how we ended up with these two times; do we want to reconsider based on jibel's request?

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> but this is going the wrong way, and when time changes again, we move them again?

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> charlie-tca: yes, we would have to flip at every DT/non-DT change

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> that's the beauty of UTC!

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> and the bane...

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> so what would be?

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> yeah. that puts me at 8 am for the earlier meeting.

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> bdmurray: what about you?

 <'''<<Verbatim(bdmurray)>>'''> charlie and I are in the same tz

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> can we defer vote until next week (to include ara in discussion)?

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> yes.

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> sure

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> pedro_: voting is still open

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> pedro_ thx much

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [ENDVOTE]

||<#55FF55>Results: 5 in favour, 0 against, 0 abstained.||
||<#55FF55>Overall: 5||
||<#55FF55>Motion Carried: ||
||<#55FF55>Motion Denied: ||
||<#55FF55>Deadlock. If someone has a casting vote now is the time to use it||
 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [ACTION] Discuss meeting times

||<#FF5555>'' Discuss meeting times''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> so we don't forget about it

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> anything else?

 <'''<<Verbatim(charlie-tca)>>'''> Might be good to see what else we are conflicting with moving these meetings

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> 3

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> yup, lets review it and share it next week

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> ok if there is nothing else:

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [TOPIC] Selection of new chair

==  Selection of new chair ==
 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> any volunteer ?

 * '''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>''' hides

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> pedro: i've updated the next meeting agenda for that topic and assigned it to jibel

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> thank you marjo

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> oh, jibel is the volunteer?

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> didn't i heard jibel?

 <'''<<Verbatim(marjo)>>'''> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> yes

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> \o/

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> [ACTION] jibel to chair next meeting

||<#FF5555>'' jibel to chair next meeting''||

 <'''<<Verbatim(jibel)>>'''> is that all, I was expecting a general ovation ;-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> last call, anything else to raise, discuss, etc?

 <'''<<Verbatim(hggdh)>>'''> I did ;-)

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> 3

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> 2

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> 1

 <'''<<Verbatim(pedro_)>>'''> #endmeeting

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= Meeting closed at 19:36 =
== People Present ==
 * kamusin

 * pedro_

 * sense

 * jibel

 * charlie-tca

 * bdmurray

 * komputes

 * marjo

 * mainerror

 * hggdh

== Actions Recorded ==
 *  Discuss meeting times

 *  jibel to chair next meeting