== Discussion Points == * Team website hosting * Canonical hosting and alternatives * Keeping domain name consistent with Ubuntu's guidelines * Domain name will be decided by poll in the forum * Temporary website created in the meantime * Creating a LaunchPad site == Log == {{{ Dec 06 20:12:01 I was surprised by the number of people who joined the team. Dec 06 20:12:19 What's the current count? Dec 06 20:12:21 I was surprised that there were this many Ohio Ubuntu users Dec 06 20:12:44 25 members to date Dec 06 20:12:49 And... Dec 06 20:12:52 and growing! Dec 06 20:12:54 Dec 06 20:13:07 Since we are really just getting going we do not have a road map per se Dec 06 20:13:39 The primary purpose of the LoCo team is to advocate Ubuntu in local areas Dec 06 20:14:06 I've converted 4 people in the past 6 months :-) Dec 06 20:14:20 3 here Dec 06 20:14:47 3 if you count my wife :-) Dec 06 20:14:48 * Vor-oh gives a shout out! Dec 06 20:15:32 I think we should discuss the website Dec 06 20:15:43 good idea Dec 06 20:16:07 OK, then whats next Dec 06 20:16:17 jacobmp92: you've got web chops.... Dec 06 20:16:23 care to lead? Dec 06 20:16:24 :) Dec 06 20:16:27 sure Dec 06 20:16:57 PWill: thanks for the gpg help Dec 06 20:17:02 as for the Canonical hosting, has there been any updates on that? Dec 06 20:17:05 Joomla! is my suggestion. The free hosting from Canonical meets the minimum requirements for Joomla! (PHP4, MySQL, Apache 1.3) Dec 06 20:17:11 ichthyoboy: No problem Dec 06 20:17:24 Here's what I have : *silence* Dec 06 20:17:26 PWill, I still could never get a grasp of joomla Dec 06 20:17:28 lol Dec 06 20:17:41 what about drupal? Dec 06 20:17:42 jacobmp92: Heh. How come? Dec 06 20:17:58 yes, what 'bout drupal? does it need php5? Dec 06 20:18:06 Drupal seems like a more "simple" option, although I think a CMS is overblowing it Dec 06 20:18:19 no, it runs on ver4 Dec 06 20:18:27 dan: we can get PHP5 if we need, there is CGI support :) Dec 06 20:18:28 http://drupal.org/requirements Dec 06 20:18:44 jacobmp92: that's right! CGI! Dec 06 20:18:46 i only wish there was SSH access Dec 06 20:18:48 its pretty small Dec 06 20:18:56 that would make it a heck of a lot easier Dec 06 20:19:10 well.... can we at least decide who should man the web team? Dec 06 20:19:11 Well, someone said they had 199 gigs of storage on their server. Dec 06 20:19:16 that was me :) Dec 06 20:19:24 we only get 500mb Dec 06 20:19:28 danbuch929: I can do the site design, and be an admin Dec 06 20:19:45 i technically dont have that much space instantly available, but its there to use Dec 06 20:19:54 my host oversells Dec 06 20:20:10 danbuch929: I'm fluent in CSS/XHTML, and am capable with PHP Dec 06 20:20:19 im a PHP/SQL nerd Dec 06 20:20:38 PWill, jacobmp92: that's great! Are you two willing to get things in motion? Dec 06 20:20:44 sure Dec 06 20:20:46 danbuch929: Sure Dec 06 20:21:19 Do we want a domain? Or are we gonna leech a subdomain off of Canonical? Dec 06 20:21:32 Canonical provides the domain I think Dec 06 20:21:35 what do you think we should do? Dec 06 20:21:39 PWill, jacobmp92: I'm working on SpreadUbuntu right now, and I can recommend using bzr with LaunchPad for project mgmt Dec 06 20:21:51 ic Dec 06 20:21:55 I would get a domain if we are set on something specific? Dec 06 20:22:01 ubuntu-oh.com is available Dec 06 20:22:05 what about content? What type of information do we want the site to contain? Dec 06 20:22:26 I like ubuntu-ohio.org Dec 06 20:22:27 .org would be a 'better' ext, since we are an organization Dec 06 20:22:29 yeah Dec 06 20:22:30 ichthyoboy: Blog, calendar, maybe a wiki Dec 06 20:22:34 icthyoboy: do you have good writing/editing skills? Dec 06 20:22:50 Somewhat...definitely good editing skills Dec 06 20:22:55 i'd go for news, maybe a Planet, calender, wiki, etc Dec 06 20:22:59 and my writing chops are improving Dec 06 20:23:21 ichthyoboy: would you be willing to volunteer as something of a team journalist/editor? Dec 06 20:23:29 sure Dec 06 20:23:41 I'm a grammar nazi, so I can also deal with writing as well. Dec 06 20:23:41 a person to whom potential content is submitted? Dec 06 20:23:48 what about info on local LUGs throughout OH Dec 06 20:23:57 PWill: plus you'll have your hands on the CSS .... so it's a good match Dec 06 20:23:59 COLUG? Dec 06 20:24:10 yeah, where's skippy? Dec 06 20:24:12 w00t for COLUG Dec 06 20:24:14 speaking of COLUG Dec 06 20:24:29 skippy was supposed to be here. He's majorly involved in COLUG Dec 06 20:24:33 good idea, we should incorp the columbus loco as well Dec 06 20:25:06 PWill, jacobmp92, ichthyoboy: have you all posted your email addr's on LP? Dec 06 20:25:10 yep Dec 06 20:25:12 yup Dec 06 20:25:19 danbuch929: yep Dec 06 20:25:33 danbuch929: https://launchpad.net/people/paulwilliams Dec 06 20:25:48 jacobmp92: given Vor's guidance/input on Canonical's hosting info... Dec 06 20:26:00 would you be willing to head up the discussion on the mailing list? Dec 06 20:26:11 sure Dec 06 20:26:11 so that those not present here can stay abreast... Dec 06 20:26:22 ok Dec 06 20:26:23 jacobmp92, danbuch929, ichthyoboy: Do you all have Jabber or AIM? Dec 06 20:26:28 jabber Dec 06 20:26:31 via gmail Dec 06 20:26:34 yes, my jabber is jacobmp92@gmail.com Dec 06 20:27:09 this is what I think our site should look like... http://chi.ubuntu-us.org/ Dec 06 20:27:28 I can do that. Dec 06 20:27:58 It's basically ubuntu.com's CSS. Heh. Dec 06 20:28:14 the chicago LoCo's doing great work ... any chance we can get a subdomain of ubuntu-us for a litttle bit of consistency? Dec 06 20:28:24 clean Dec 06 20:28:40 danbuch929: We should have a domain that redirects there. Dec 06 20:29:04 I'll follow up with Matthew on the hosting Dec 06 20:29:06 danbuch929: newbs don't like subdomains. They're hard to remember, for some. Dec 06 20:29:19 PWill: noted :-D Dec 06 20:29:33 @Vor, if for some reason we can't be hosted on the Canonical servers, contact me ;) Dec 06 20:29:46 Great :-D Dec 06 20:29:50 Check out http://drupal.org/project/Modules Dec 06 20:30:02 Which of these can you see us using? Dec 06 20:30:22 Moodle? (Dan, lets finish this) Dec 06 20:30:41 ah! Moodle! Dec 06 20:30:47 meh Dec 06 20:30:52 Vor had a great idea about using Moodle for something else Dec 06 20:30:56 hear the man out! Dec 06 20:31:06 ... not necessarily for the LoCo Dec 06 20:31:18 I think this would give us a great opportunity to teach people linux Dec 06 20:31:21 ...but possibly as a project our Team can take ownership of Dec 06 20:31:23 yes Dec 06 20:31:33 i see Dec 06 20:32:17 * __lynX (n=mark@MW-ESR1-72-49-210-155.fuse.net) has joined #ubuntu-ohio Dec 06 20:32:25 Hey mark! Dec 06 20:32:28 jacobmp92: before we find out about hosting, I can recommend contacting Mitch (I think) at http://devubuntu.com Dec 06 20:32:36 <__lynX> Hey! I'm a little late, but still here. :) Dec 06 20:32:51 __ahoy __lynX! Dec 06 20:32:57 <__lynX> How's it going? Dec 06 20:33:01 @dan: ok Dec 06 20:33:33 jacobmp92: he provides some nice space for getting things honed Dec 06 20:33:44 danbuch929: What's your GMail address? Dec 06 20:33:47 cool Dec 06 20:34:03 daniel.buch@gmail.com Dec 06 20:34:29 so anything else on the website? Dec 06 20:34:44 how about horde Dec 06 20:34:55 @dan: fyi, I do have a free domain left in my account, plus my massive 200 gigs of space and 2 tb of bandwidth (i love my host :)) Dec 06 20:35:05 schweeet Dec 06 20:35:09 Not on the site of course Dec 06 20:35:29 jacobmp92: Who is your host? Dec 06 20:35:33 DreamHost Dec 06 20:35:35 ah Dec 06 20:35:40 jacobmp92: is that something you'd be willing to "donate" to the LoCo? Dec 06 20:35:41 lemme find a link for the plans Dec 06 20:35:43 sure Dec 06 20:35:48 Ah! They have SSH, don't they? Dec 06 20:35:54 PWill: Jabber via gmail Dec 06 20:36:03 jacobmp92: very generous of you :-) Dec 06 20:36:05 @pwill, yes, that is one of ther reasons why i love them Dec 06 20:36:18 so, should we skip on canonical? Dec 06 20:36:19 i can open up some SSH accounts for the site Dec 06 20:36:41 Vor-oh: sounds like a pretty arsome deal Dec 06 20:36:41 what of domain? Dec 06 20:36:45 dunno, i dont care either way; if we host with canonical, great, if we dont, great Dec 06 20:37:10 dan, agreed :-D Dec 06 20:37:27 Vor-oh: I'm thinking ubuntu-ohio.org is best Dec 06 20:37:35 just say the word and I can have a site, domain, and SSH open in less than 10 minutes Dec 06 20:37:40 PWill, agreed. Dec 06 20:37:41 <__lynX> Vor-oh: What domain does Canonical supply us with? Dec 06 20:37:44 * danbuch929 agrees Dec 06 20:37:53 ubuntu-ohio.org is good Dec 06 20:37:55 500mb Dec 06 20:37:57 __lynX: you don't wanna know Dec 06 20:37:58 ubuntu-ohio.org sounds good Dec 06 20:37:59 :-D Dec 06 20:38:04 Vor-oh: Do we even need the hyphen? How 'bout ubuntuohio.org Dec 06 20:38:12 Keeps with the theme Dec 06 20:38:15 k Dec 06 20:38:39 we can poll this at the forums Dec 06 20:38:54 Vor-oh: that'd be more inclusive. good idea Dec 06 20:39:04 took me a while to find the hosting plans site for some reason, but here it is: http://dreamhost.com/hosting.html (level 1) Dec 06 20:39:46 I think we've found our host Dec 06 20:39:50 hehe Dec 06 20:40:03 * Vor-oh gives manly hug Dec 06 20:40:13 zoiks those are good packages... (/me swears he doesn't work for Dreamhost) Dec 06 20:40:41 overselling is a godsend.. they give you the space and hope you don't use it, but if you do they dont care Dec 06 20:40:57 0.01% of the customers use most of the space Dec 06 20:41:25 We're only gonna use like a gig, max. Dec 06 20:41:25 I'll have to check with trademarks on the domain Dec 06 20:41:54 <__lynX> Is this all okay with Canonical, btw? We are an officially sponsored group. Dec 06 20:42:12 offtopic: if anyone ever wants to save some $$ on dreamhost in the future, contact me first Dec 06 20:42:19 @lynx, i think its fine Dec 06 20:42:27 _lynx, yes and not yet Dec 06 20:42:49 <__lynX> Alright. Just making sure. :) Dec 06 20:43:50 so what else of the site? Dec 06 20:44:24 dunno, are we going with ubuntu-ohio.org then? Dec 06 20:44:39 jacobmp92: we're waiting on a poll, yes? Dec 06 20:44:44 That's the general consensus, I believe. Dec 06 20:44:45 ah right Dec 06 20:44:49 yep... Dec 06 20:44:58 How long should it be polled? Dec 06 20:45:14 1 wk oughtta do it, yes? Dec 06 20:45:14 2 days...? Dec 06 20:45:17 Vor-oh: Are you doing it on the forums right now? Dec 06 20:45:20 ok, i was off :-p Dec 06 20:45:20 should we poll how long to poll? ;-) Dec 06 20:45:21 hehe Dec 06 20:45:36 no, I'll wait til were done. Dec 06 20:45:52 * cstudent votes a week Dec 06 20:45:55 1 week then Dec 06 20:46:01 there's no reason why jacobmp92 et al can't start up an LP project for the site in the meantime, right? :-) Dec 06 20:46:19 i can run it off of a subdomain for the moment Dec 06 20:46:32 I wouldn't want the web team to get restless :-D Dec 06 20:46:41 lol Dec 06 20:46:42 heh Dec 06 20:46:58 we're an impatient bunch, aren't we? :-D Dec 06 20:47:02 I'm signing in to create a quick n dirty subdomain Dec 06 20:47:06 yes we are :D Dec 06 20:47:16 I'm ready to install Drupal and start designing Dec 06 20:47:18 heh Dec 06 20:47:29 woot Dec 06 20:47:35 Are we gonna use the stable Drupal? Or Drupal 5beta? Dec 06 20:47:43 PWill, jacobmp92: you'll duke it out over the CMS stuff, right? Dec 06 20:47:45 use stable i say Dec 06 20:47:52 bah! Dec 06 20:47:53 ...and let us know the outcome :-) Dec 06 20:47:58 @dan, i dont care :p Dec 06 20:48:08 drupal is fine, stable or not Dec 06 20:48:10 :-D Dec 06 20:48:11 It's up to me then! Dec 06 20:48:15 lol Dec 06 20:48:23 The latest beta is quite stable Dec 06 20:48:35 and has a sexy interface :-D Dec 06 20:48:41 It'll be final within the year's end, I hope Dec 06 20:48:44 bah! write the whole thing in Perl from scratch! call us in a year! Dec 06 20:49:05 danbuch929: ha! Perl!? I write in object code. Dec 06 20:49:18 Assembler FTW! Dec 06 20:49:26 ROTFL Dec 06 20:49:32 enough.... stop..... Dec 06 20:50:00 So Drupal 5 beta 2 it is then? Dec 06 20:50:13 i s'pose Dec 06 20:50:20 I likey Dec 06 20:50:47 stupid wifi! Dec 06 20:50:50 not to throw a wrench in the ol' works, but has anybody considered the Ubuntu-Python family bond? Dec 06 20:50:51 lol.. nice Dec 06 20:50:52 jacobmp92: Once you get the server up, either you can install, or I can SSH it in: http://drupal.org/files/projects/dru...0-beta2.tar.gz Dec 06 20:51:07 @PWill, will do Dec 06 20:51:12 ...as in: possibly using a Python-based-younameit for the site? Dec 06 20:51:30 TurboGears, for instance? Dec 06 20:51:33 Pythons are poisonous Dec 06 20:51:40 lol Dec 06 20:51:43 hehe... true dat Dec 06 20:52:04 pythons are constrictors =P Dec 06 20:52:15 ...and yet Ubuntu hugs them all day Dec 06 20:52:16 Python is easy, but PHP+MySQL wins Dec 06 20:52:42 I concede B-) Dec 06 20:53:14 creating a temporary domain at http://ohioloco.codechunk.net Dec 06 20:53:28 :D Dec 06 20:54:08 hooray Dec 06 20:54:22 vor, are you sure ubuntu-ohio.org is in line with http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy ? Dec 06 20:54:28 okay, so any other takers who want in on the web dev will be in touch with jacobmp92, right? Dec 06 20:54:38 <__lynX> Ubuntu should strengthen its bond with Ruby. :> Dec 06 20:54:55 __lynX: .... eventually, eh? Dec 06 20:54:56 we'll check Dec 06 20:55:01 ok Dec 06 20:55:06 lumpki: I believe that we are in the process of becoming Canonical authorized Dec 06 20:55:34 PWill, lumpki: before '07 if we can help it!!! Dec 06 20:55:36 if we're authorized then it's kosher Dec 06 20:55:45 ha Dec 06 20:55:59 <__lynX> I am on Windows. Please kill me. Dec 06 20:56:09 lol Dec 06 20:56:11 ha Dec 06 20:56:21 * ichthyoboy has quit (Remote closed the connection) Dec 06 20:56:31 Why are you in Win? Dec 06 20:57:00 If nobody has already, I can contact Canonical about the domain. Dec 06 20:57:26 Vor or danbuch929: Have either of you done so? Dec 06 20:57:30 Vor-oh: so jacobmp92 is Mr. Web, right? (for the forum post) Dec 06 20:57:34 PWill: not I Dec 06 20:57:55 i've sent the subdomain thru the servers, I'll contact anyone who wants to work on it as soon as its online :) Dec 06 20:58:06 if anyone else wants to have some fun with it, contact me Dec 06 20:58:17 I thought we should wait for a list and submit the list... Dec 06 20:58:25 huh? Dec 06 20:58:28 Of members? Dec 06 20:58:40 domain names... sorry Dec 06 20:58:48 oh Dec 06 20:59:00 yeah, but this is just the temporary http://ohioloco.codechunk.net subdomain Dec 06 20:59:20 i definitely did not register any top level domains yet :) Dec 06 20:59:21 Well, I can send them a general notice about us planning to reg a domain, and get their permission Dec 06 20:59:38 great! Dec 06 20:59:48 PWill: thanks for volunteering! Dec 06 21:00:34 I can't forsee a problem with ubuntu-ohio however Dec 06 21:00:56 all webbies: if you're wanting to make an LP project of it, I can point you to some useful peeps Dec 06 21:00:59 or what ever the polls tell us ;-D Dec 06 21:01:53 Vor: will you be posting a Thread for discussion of poll candidates first? Dec 06 21:02:12 which pole dan? Dec 06 21:02:24 name? Dec 06 21:02:26 Canonical, Dec 06 21:02:26 poll for domain name.... Dec 06 21:02:26 I'm representing the Ubuntu-Ohio LoCo ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=191 ) Dec 06 21:02:26 As a new team, we are getting ready to start a site. As per http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy we felt obligated to obtain your approval to register the TLD `ubuntu-ohio.org` Dec 06 21:02:40 * Vor-oh has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Dec 06 21:02:48 danbuch929 and Vor: how does that look? Dec 06 21:03:02 looks super! thanks Dec 06 21:03:03 PWill: lovely. fire away! Dec 06 21:03:12 looks great Dec 06 21:03:56 quick final tally so I can send out some emails: who is interested in the website development? Dec 06 21:04:02 Vor: will we be discussing TLD names in a thread prior to the poll? Dec 06 21:04:31 sure, what do we have so far? Dec 06 21:04:50 jacobmp92: count on me for backup Dec 06 21:04:52 ubuntu-ohio or ubuntu-oh? Dec 06 21:04:58 ubuntu-ohio.org, ubuntu-oh.org, ubuntuoh.org, ubuntuohio.org Dec 06 21:05:08 those two... and those other two... Dec 06 21:05:13 lol Dec 06 21:05:14 ha Dec 06 21:05:23 I'll add ubuntu-us-ohio.org (mouthful) Dec 06 21:05:38 check Dec 06 21:05:39 for consistency with LP team naming conventions Dec 06 21:05:59 <__lynX> I would like to add ubunusohtuio.org. Dec 06 21:06:00 good idea, we could like domains... Dec 06 21:06:10 ok, so I have danbuch929 and PWill for contact with the site. Anyone else? (__lynX, didn't you say you wanted to do something with the site?) Dec 06 21:06:11 i meant "link" Dec 06 21:06:22 _lynx should Dec 06 21:06:27 jacobmp92, i can work on logos and artwork if you need any Dec 06 21:06:34 ichthyoboy: are you still up for content dev? Dec 06 21:06:40 <__lynX> I don't have any time right now. I may be taking a quarter off school, so we'll see what happens after Christmas break. Dec 06 21:06:42 sure thing... Dec 06 21:06:45 @lumpki, ok, ill add you to Dec 06 21:07:00 @__lynX: ok, never mind :-p Dec 06 21:07:13 <__lynX> I would to when I get time though. ;) Dec 06 21:07:35 ok, just mail/irc me whenever you want to :) Dec 06 21:08:29 back..did i miss it? Dec 06 21:08:31 haha Dec 06 21:08:33 jacobmp92: are you willing to send out a general posting to the mailing list, too? possibly a thread on the forum while we're at it? Dec 06 21:08:51 sure, this is just for SSH access info Dec 06 21:08:59 yes... sorry :-D Dec 06 21:09:02 lumpki, what's your email? Dec 06 21:09:09 hehe Dec 06 21:09:19 sean.artman@gmail.com Dec 06 21:09:27 * danbuch929 impatience gets the best of him Dec 06 21:09:31 ok Dec 06 21:10:52 if we're through the bulk of it, I'm afraid I've got to jet... I owe my dear wife some attention :-D Dec 06 21:11:14 Same, if by wife you mean calc homework Dec 06 21:11:17 i believe we're pretty much done Dec 06 21:11:27 excellent first meeting! Dec 06 21:11:34 yes it was Dec 06 21:11:36 with many more to follow! Dec 06 21:11:41 hopefully Dec 06 21:11:44 heh Dec 06 21:11:50 next meeting is when? Dec 06 21:11:56 not planned yet :-P Dec 06 21:12:10 ...see you all on the forum/list/IRC/etc...! I'm out! Dec 06 21:12:14 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313977 Dec 06 21:12:28 Go there to vote for the domain, once Vor sets it up Dec 06 21:12:42 * danbuch929 has left #ubuntu-ohio Dec 06 21:12:43 * cstudent waves bye to dan Dec 06 21:13:17 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=313977 Dec 06 21:13:22 happy voting :-) Dec 06 21:13:33 voted :)}}}