{{{ 09:00 mdz we'll begin; hopefully Keybuk will join us 09:01 sabdfl https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda === derekS [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 09:01 mdz I think all of the pending membership applications for ubuntu-core-dev are invalid 09:01 mjg59 mdz: Matches what I thought 09:01 dholbach mdz: I had no answer back from all of them. 09:01 sabdfl yup 09:01 mdz none of them are MOTUs or had prior contact with the TB about their applications === derekS [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 09:02 mdz so I'll decline them all with an appropriate comment === Vinze [n=vinze@a80-126-159-235.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] 09:02 sabdfl i'll do that while you guys get stated on MOTU 09:02 mdz ok, thanks 09:02 mdz LaserJock: you're here? === LaserJock is Jordan Mantha 09:03 mdz glad you could make it at the scheduled time 09:03 LaserJock well, I'm ditching a RL meeting to be here so hopefully I won't get in too much trouble 09:03 LaserJock ;-) 09:03 mdz daring 09:03 mdz LaserJock: I have your wiki page up, but would you like to summarize in a few sentences what it's all about for you? 09:04 LaserJock I got started working for MOTU because I had a problem with a package and I wanted to fix 09:04 LaserJock it 09:04 LaserJock and Ubuntu was the first distro I truly felt a part of the community and wanted to give back 09:05 LaserJock https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-February/015279.html is an interview dholbach did of me for the MOTU Report 09:05 sabdfl LaserJock: any suggestions for ways we can boost Utnubu? 09:06 LaserJock sabdfl: I think the biggest thing is getting new MOTU wannabes involved and making it easy to get in touch with people 09:06 sabdfl ok 09:06 LaserJock most of the old timers know what they are doing or are more "set" in their ways 09:06 sabdfl great wiki page, btw, very well laid out 09:06 mdz LaserJock: can you tell us a bit about MOTUScience and your goals for it? 09:07 sabdfl LaserJock: would you be interested in an Ubuntu derivative specifically for university use? 09:07 LaserJock mdz: My main goal is to make sure that Ubuntu keeps up with Debian, and where possible provide a pathway for interested scientists to contribute 09:07 mdz LaserJock: in what ways can we make Ubuntu more useful to the science community? 09:07 LaserJock sabdfl: I'm more interested in making Ubuntu a good desktop for scientific use rather than a derivative, but Edubuntu is promising 09:08 LaserJock mdz: providing free/open source packages as alternatives to traditional, expensive, proprietary apps 09:08 sabdfl do you see the scientific community as different from the university one? 09:08 LaserJock see w.u.c/UbuntuScientists for example 09:08 ogra_ yes, i hopw to work closer with the MOTUScience team for dapper+1, we want to get other apps in and also provide a more marture set of apps 09:08 ogra_ *hope 09:09 mdz LaserJock: are there many plausible alternatives to proprietary scientific apps which are not yet available in Ubuntu? 09:09 mjg59 LaserJock: How do you think we can effectively market Ubuntu to scientists? sabdfl: in some ways. the scientific community often lives inside the 09:09 LaserJock university, but is more geared towards research instead of education (in the traditional sense) 09:09 mdz Hotel. No Internet Access. 09:10 LaserJock mdz: yes, some. Kyral has been working on FlowDesigner for MOTUScience. mjg59: By being a great desktop while also being able to provide 09:10 LaserJock scientific packages that are up-to-date, bug free ;-), and getting new packages in 09:11 sabdfl mdz: is keybuk traveling for you? 09:11 mdz sabdfl: yes 09:11 LaserJock I am particularly interested in people using Ubuntu for writing dissertations and publications, data analysis,etc. 09:12 LaserJock but a guy in the department yesterday had me get him an Ubuntu disk to put on his computational cluster because it worked better than SuSE LaserJock: apart from improving Ubuntu to make it appealing to 09:12 mdz scientists, how can we let them know that it exists and might be useful to them? 09:12 mjg59 LaserJock: As a final year PhD student myself, I'm very interested in ways that I can get more people in the community running Ubuntu :) 09:12 sabdfl ok, +1 for LaserJock from me 09:13 mdz LaserJock: who has been sponsoring your uploads so far? mdz: I think there is a pretty solid scientific base in Ubuntu, I think 09:13 LaserJock marketing Ubuntu as being able to run your science apps + having a good desktop experience === sistpoty sponsored one or two uploads... and reviewed a package on revu 09:14 LaserJock mjg59: by making it easy for students/researchers to get there work done and not getting in the way being a MOTU, I was actually surprised to learn that LaserJock wasn't a 09:14 lucas MOTU yet. He really did a lot of excellent work inside MOTU, and he has been around for longer than I have. I very strongly recommend him for MOTU. 09:14 sistpoty LaserJock has been around for a very long time, and his packaging work is really good :) 09:14 mdz dholbach: any comments on LaserJock? mdz: crimsun and \sh did a lot of sponsoring for me but again, crimsun 09:15 LaserJock was unable to make the meeting (I asked him to email dholbach or mdz) and \sh is sorta away it seems 09:15 dholbach after there was not a real agreement on him in the last TB meeting I had a look at some of his patches/uploads and they were ok for me 09:15 mdz thanks 09:15 LaserJock Riddell also uploaded my first package from scratch (plotdrop) 09:16 mdz Riddell: around? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting yes, plotdrop was in good shape when I reviewed it, which I think was 09:17 Riddell after a few revisions on revu, so I advocate LaserJock as much as I can from 1 package I think the 2 big issues as far as MOTUScience goes is licensing 09:17 LaserJock (getting upstreams to have DFSG free licenses) and bugs (lots of science apps are poorly maintained) 09:18 mdz mjg59: any further questions? 09:18 LaserJock I hope by organizing interested parties around science related apps we can help solve those issues those uploads weren't hardcore-deep-down-fixes, but what I like about LaserJock is that he tries to organize the MOTU world a bit and I think 09:18 dholbach he'll be an asset for the last-weeks-fixing-up-dappers-universe - and I like his honesty, I don't think he would upload packages without being really sure (or having asked others) 09:18 mjg59 Nope, I think the combination of this and last time is good for me 09:19 mdz ok 09:19 mdz +1 from me based on peer recommendations and history of working within the community 09:19 mjg59 +1 for working on stuff I'd be doing if I had more time 09:20 mdz ;-) 09:20 mdz LaserJock: congratulations and welcome aboard 09:20 dholbach congratulations LaserJock 09:20 sistpoty congrats LaserJock! finally :) 09:20 lucas :-) very good choice to get him in :-) 09:20 mdz I think we had a couple of folks from the last meeting who were deferred due to lack of time 09:20 LaserJock thanks TB and thanks all the MOTUs and wannabes 09:20 sabdfl well done LaserJock 09:20 mdz is anyone here in that category? 09:21 ogra yay LaserJock !! 09:21 sivang LaserJock: congrets!! 09:21 mdz OK, if not, is there anyone else present who is applying for ubuntu-dev/MOTU membership/ 09:21 mdz s,/,?/ 09:21 Tonio_ congrats LaserJock :) 09:22 jpatrick congrats LaserJock :) 09:22 mdz Ivailo Ivanov? 09:22 mdz freeflying? 09:22 jpatrick sleeping 09:23 mdz if not, then we're finished 09:23 mdz with memberships 09:23 mdz is there any other business? === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 09:24 ogra looks like we're done ... 09:24 mdz hearing none, adjourned 09:24 dholbach that must have been one of the quickest TB meetings :) 09:24 mdz thanks, everyone }}}