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 * Contact: Self:1337_ubunutu_teen
 * Make : HP
 * Model: Compaq 6715b
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= General Remarks =
ThomHurks: I tried loading the live cd with the cdimage from February 9, 2008. Ubuntu did not get past the "Executing local boot scripts" part of loading. I also tried all the extra options mentioned here. It seems that, despite the new kernel, Hardy is still broken for the 6715b.
'''Update - 2008-03-10:''' The laptop works fine now. Without any extra options it boots right into the Live CD and it installs flawlessly. CompizFusion works out-of-the-box with fglrx enabled. Now the wireless. The whole b43-fwcutter story is way too complicated, for each user it works there are 100 it doesn't work for. I recommend good old ndiswrapper. [Tested with 64-bit Live-CD Hardy from March 08]

'''Update - 2008-01-06:''' Wasn't content with '' "almost everything working except compiz" '' and tried hardy alpha2 - didn't work. You've been warned. I also made an attempt with ENVY - again no success. No more experiments for me.

RomanBrodylo - 2008-01-02 - ''My experience with this notebook has been a different one - I cannot support the impression given below. There are quirks and rough edges but not nearly as devastating as depicted below. I'll just pass on '''what''' works (and what doesn't), and '''how''' it worked for me.''

Self:nilgiri - 2007-12-17 - ''I have had so much trouble with this machine, trying both Feisty and Gutsy, that I have contacted HP to trade it in for one that has a better reputation on the wiki and forums. I went ahead with this purchase based on this wiki page only to find that the machine suffers from random lockups of the USB and Bluetooth when using them, particularly when USB 2.0 devices were in use and even more so when a USB 2.0 hub was in use. These bus locks often lead to the entire machine freezing with a black screen, an event that may have occurred a few times without out being related to USB or Bluetooth. I have not even bothered to try and get the Broadcom 802.11a/g/n card to work. I also has some bizarre issues displaying the mouse cursor on a second monitor. My only hope is that HP will allow me to exchange this. Save yourself the headache and stay away from this machine unless some one updates this page with better news from later Ubuntu versions.''

## removing this stuff cause it doesn't make sense or lead to a usable link. rb, 2008-02-17
## * Contact: Self:1337_ubunutu_teen
## * Alternate: Self:AigarsMahinovs
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== System Info ==
HP Compaq 6715b, AMD Turion TL60 2GHz, 2GB, 15,4 WSXGA+
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 1. No visual effects (aka ''eye-candy'') for the time being.
  * I like Compiz and appreciate visual queues as an enhancement to usability - it just isn't worth the hassle to try to force them on now. I'm sure this will be fixed by the next release. Remember, this is Ubuntu - there are 2 new releases a year!
  * There are a lot of suggestions out there - but among all the different approaches I couldn't find the right one, that was easy and not too disruptive. There is plenty of room here!
 1. Wireless works, but only with Ndiswrapper. So what. Again, see the above argumentation.
 1. Suspend and Hibernate don't work and leave the system in a (for me) undefined state. I really need a fix here.

And if you have some spare time maybe someone can help with '''power management''' - The machine just reports 2,5 hours of battery power; It was sold claiming 4,5! Any ideas?

Switching wireless off with the touch switch (hardware) also disables bluetooth.?

You cannot launch the live cd.

= Succesfull Installation of 7.10 (Gutsy) despite existing Problems =
== Booting with the Installation CD ==
The normal desktop ''live'' CD will not work. You can install with the "Alternate" CD.
A lot of people suggest adding options (with the F6 key) before booting
I added (after 2 backspaces to remove the two dashes at the end of the command):
{{{
noapic nolapic
}}}
I dont know what they do; seems they at least didn't harm.

Maybe someone can explain those parms together with all the other suggestions:
{{{ irqpoll pci=noacpi noapic nolapic acpi=off }}}
Here is a listof all boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

I then followed the first part of a relatively short and easy guide from "debian hk". Thank you folks.
 http://www.debian.org.hk/blog-entry/ubuntu-7-04-installation-hp-compaq-6515b-notebook-installation-amd-turion-tm-64-mk-38
Then another well written and easy to follow guide to get the wireless driver working - with the windows driver in ndiswrapper. Here again, thank you a lot.
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff

== Getting over the hanging install ==
=== Install a working graphics driver ===
Switch to a free console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and enter the following commands:
{{{
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
sudo depmod -a
sudo aticonfig --initial
}}}
Reboot (Ctrl+Alt+Del). Don't forget to remove the CD.

The graphical user interface should be working - Welcome to Ubuntu 7.10!

== Get wireless working ==
Open a terminal for the following commands (Applications/Accessories/Terminal).
=== Install NDISWrapper and Blacklist Native Driver ===
{{{
echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
mkdir ~/bcm43xx; cd ~/bcm43xx
}}}
=== Download and Extract Drivers ===
{{{
sudo apt-get install cabextract
wget ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp34001-34500/sp34152.exe
cabextract sp34152.exe
}}}
=== Configure NDISWrapper (and WPA Supplicant) ===
{{{
sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
ndiswrapper -l
sudo depmod -a
sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.orig
echo -e 'auto lo\niface lo inet loopback\n' | sudo tee /etc/network/interfaces
sudo ndiswrapper -m
echo 'ndiswrapper' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
echo 'ENABLED=0' | sudo tee -a /etc/default/wpasupplicant
}}}
Now, REBOOT. Don't forget to remove the CD. You can now have wireless connections.

--------
= Older Remarks =
== Current Issues ==
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Issues with ubuntu gutsy
 * xorg-driver-ati does not support graphics chipset (X1250)
 * WLAN: bcm43xx module doesn't work (some IRQ_XFER error), ndiswrapper works (ndiswrapper-utils)
 * Sleep doesn't work (black screen).
 * Frequent undebugged lock-up (2-4 times a day)
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 * When you boot the CD and the xserver fails and display the message you select no.
 * then in the console you type in this order:
When you boot the CD and the xserver fails and display the message you select no.
then in the console you type in this order:
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 * After that the xserver loads and you can install ubuntu. After that the xserver loads and you can install ubuntu.
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== System Info ==
{{{
system-manufacturer:Hewlett-Packard
system-product-name:HP Compaq 6715b
}}}

== Hardware details ==
|| || in Feisty (current stable)? ||
|| Installation works? || with alternate installer || ||
 * If you want this device to work wully, then install the proprietary driver that ubuntu notifies you of on startup.
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= Hardware details =
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|| Screen || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Correct resolution? || Yes, (1200x800) || Untested || ||
|| Correct refresh rate? || Untested || Untested || ||
|| 3D Acceleration || Yes, With ATI Proprietarty Driver || Untested || ||
|| External monitor works? || Untested || Untested || ||
|| External monitor - mirrors || Untested || Untested || ||
|| External monitor - extend desktop || Untested || Untested || ||
|| Screen || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Correct resolution? || Yes, (1200x800) || Yes, (1280x800) Yes, (1680x1050) || ||
|| Correct refresh rate? || Yes (60 Hz) || Yes (60 Hz) || ||
|| 3D Acceleration || Yes, With ATI Proprietarty Driver || Yes, With ATI Proprietarty Driver || ||
|| External monitor works? ||
Untested || No || ||
|| External monitor - mirrors || Untested || No || ||
|| External monitor - extend des
ktop || Untested || No || ||
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|| Battery detected? || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Hibernates? || Yes, very slow || Untested || ||
|| Sleep || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Dim monitor on battery || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Blank monitor on inactivity || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Lid Close || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Cpu frequency scaling || Yes|| Untested || ||
|| Battery detected? || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Hibernates? || Yes, very slow || No || ||
|| External Battery || Untested || Yes || ||
|| Sleep || Yes || No || ||
|| Dim monitor on battery || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Blank monitor on inactivity || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Lid Close || Yes || No || ||
|| Cpu frequency scaling || Yes|| Yes || ||
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|| Sound works? || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Correct volume? || master volume not linear || Untested || ||
|| Hardware volume switch || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Headphone jack || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Sound works? || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Correct volume? || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Hardware volume switch || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Headphone jack || Yes || Yes || ||
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|| Wired NIC || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Wireless NIC || see above || Untested || ||
|| Wired NIC || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Wireless NIC || see above || Yes, ndiswrapper || 139382 ||
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|| Bluetooth || Yes || Untested || || || Bluetooth || Yes || Yes || ||
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|| Touchpad || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Touchpad - Doubletap = double click || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Touchpad - Scroll down side || Yes || Untested || ||
|| Touchpad || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Touchpad - Doubletap = double click || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Touchpad - Scroll down side || Yes || Yes || ||
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|| External mouse - USB || Yes || Untested || ||
|| External mouse - Serial || Untested || Untested || ||
|| External mouse - USB || Yes || Yes || ||
|| Ex
ternal mouse - Bluetooth || || Yes || ||
|| External mouse - Serial || N/A || N/A || ||
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|| CD-RW/DVD drive || Yes || Untested || || || CD-RW/DVD drive || Yes || Yes || ||
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|| Parallel Ports || Untested || Untested || ||
|| Card reader(s) || Untested || Untested || ||
|| Parallel Ports || N/A || N/A || ||
|| Card reader(s) || Untested || Yes || ||
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|| + F9 || || || Untested || Untested || ||
|| + F10 || || || Untested || Untested || ||
|| + F9 || || || Untested || dim screen || ||
|| + F10 || || || Untested || brighten screen || ||
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==Team Contact for Page:==
Andrew Owen
E-mail: m3g4_1337_h3r0@hotmail.com
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Can I please have some contact information for the tester? (KarianneFogHeen)

## same here: removing this stuff cause it doesn't make sense or lead to a usable link. rb, 2008-02-17
## I have one of those handy for testing (AigarsMahinovs)
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General Remarks

ThomHurks: I tried loading the live cd with the cdimage from February 9, 2008. Ubuntu did not get past the "Executing local boot scripts" part of loading. I also tried all the extra options mentioned here. It seems that, despite the new kernel, Hardy is still broken for the 6715b. Update - 2008-03-10: The laptop works fine now. Without any extra options it boots right into the Live CD and it installs flawlessly. CompizFusion works out-of-the-box with fglrx enabled. Now the wireless. The whole b43-fwcutter story is way too complicated, for each user it works there are 100 it doesn't work for. I recommend good old ndiswrapper. [Tested with 64-bit Live-CD Hardy from March 08]

Update - 2008-01-06: Wasn't content with "almost everything working except compiz" and tried hardy alpha2 - didn't work. You've been warned. I also made an attempt with ENVY - again no success. No more experiments for me.

RomanBrodylo - 2008-01-02 - My experience with this notebook has been a different one - I cannot support the impression given below. There are quirks and rough edges but not nearly as devastating as depicted below. I'll just pass on what works (and what doesn't), and how it worked for me.

nilgiri - 2007-12-17 - I have had so much trouble with this machine, trying both Feisty and Gutsy, that I have contacted HP to trade it in for one that has a better reputation on the wiki and forums. I went ahead with this purchase based on this wiki page only to find that the machine suffers from random lockups of the USB and Bluetooth when using them, particularly when USB 2.0 devices were in use and even more so when a USB 2.0 hub was in use. These bus locks often lead to the entire machine freezing with a black screen, an event that may have occurred a few times without out being related to USB or Bluetooth. I have not even bothered to try and get the Broadcom 802.11a/g/n card to work. I also has some bizarre issues displaying the mouse cursor on a second monitor. My only hope is that HP will allow me to exchange this. Save yourself the headache and stay away from this machine unless some one updates this page with better news from later Ubuntu versions.


System Info

HP Compaq 6715b, AMD Turion TL60 2GHz, 2GB, 15,4 WSXGA+

Current Issues

  1. No visual effects (aka eye-candy) for the time being.

    • I like Compiz and appreciate visual queues as an enhancement to usability - it just isn't worth the hassle to try to force them on now. I'm sure this will be fixed by the next release. Remember, this is Ubuntu - there are 2 new releases a year!
    • There are a lot of suggestions out there - but among all the different approaches I couldn't find the right one, that was easy and not too disruptive. There is plenty of room here!
  2. Wireless works, but only with Ndiswrapper. So what. Again, see the above argumentation.
  3. Suspend and Hibernate don't work and leave the system in a (for me) undefined state. I really need a fix here.

And if you have some spare time maybe someone can help with power management - The machine just reports 2,5 hours of battery power; It was sold claiming 4,5! Any ideas?

Switching wireless off with the touch switch (hardware) also disables bluetooth.?

You cannot launch the live cd.

Succesfull Installation of 7.10 (Gutsy) despite existing Problems

Booting with the Installation CD

The normal desktop live CD will not work. You can install with the "Alternate" CD. A lot of people suggest adding options (with the F6 key) before booting I added (after 2 backspaces to remove the two dashes at the end of the command):

noapic nolapic  

I dont know what they do; seems they at least didn't harm.

Maybe someone can explain those parms together with all the other suggestions:  irqpoll pci=noacpi noapic nolapic acpi=off  Here is a listof all boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions

I then followed the first part of a relatively short and easy guide from "debian hk". Thank you folks.

Then another well written and easy to follow guide to get the wireless driver working - with the windows driver in ndiswrapper. Here again, thank you a lot.

Getting over the hanging install

Install a working graphics driver

Switch to a free console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and enter the following commands:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
sudo depmod -a
sudo aticonfig --initial

Reboot (Ctrl+Alt+Del). Don't forget to remove the CD.

The graphical user interface should be working - Welcome to Ubuntu 7.10!

Get wireless working

Open a terminal for the following commands (Applications/Accessories/Terminal).

Install NDISWrapper and Blacklist Native Driver

echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
mkdir ~/bcm43xx; cd ~/bcm43xx

Download and Extract Drivers

sudo apt-get install cabextract
wget ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp34001-34500/sp34152.exe
cabextract sp34152.exe

Configure NDISWrapper (and WPA Supplicant)

sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
ndiswrapper -l
sudo depmod -a
sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.orig
echo -e 'auto lo\niface lo inet loopback\n' | sudo tee /etc/network/interfaces
sudo ndiswrapper -m
echo 'ndiswrapper' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
echo 'ENABLED=0' | sudo tee -a /etc/default/wpasupplicant

Now, REBOOT. Don't forget to remove the CD. You can now have wireless connections.


Older Remarks

Current Issues

Issues with ubuntu feisty:

  • xorg-driver-ati does not support graphics chipset (X1250)
  • WLAN: bcm43xx module doesn't work (some IRQ_XFER error), ndiswrapper works but no WPA

Issues with ubuntu gutsy

  • xorg-driver-ati does not support graphics chipset (X1250)
  • WLAN: bcm43xx module doesn't work (some IRQ_XFER error), ndiswrapper works (ndiswrapper-utils)
  • Sleep doesn't work (black screen).
  • Frequent undebugged lock-up (2-4 times a day)

Graphics Chipset Problem Resolution

When you boot the CD and the xserver fails and display the message you select no. then in the console you type in this order:

  • sudo -s
  • killall gdm
  • apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
  • depmod -a
  • aticonfig --initial
  • gdm start

After that the xserver loads and you can install ubuntu.

  • When you install Ubuntu doesn´t load the restricted drivers so the same problems show up, but you can do the same and it works.
  • If you want this device to work wully, then install the proprietary driver that ubuntu notifies you of on startup.


Hardware details

Hardware Information

Screen & Monitors

Device

Works?

Bug #

in Feisty (current stable)?

in Gutsy (current development)?

Screen

Yes

Yes

Correct resolution?

Yes, (1200x800)

Yes, (1280x800) Yes, (1680x1050)

Correct refresh rate?

Yes (60 Hz)

Yes (60 Hz)

3D Acceleration

Yes, With ATI Proprietarty Driver

Yes, With ATI Proprietarty Driver

External monitor works?

Untested

No

External monitor - mirrors

Untested

No

External monitor - extend desktop

Untested

No

Power Management

Battery detected?

Yes

Yes

Hibernates?

Yes, very slow

No

External Battery

Untested

Yes

Sleep

Yes

No

Dim monitor on battery

Yes

Yes

Blank monitor on inactivity

Yes

Yes

Lid Close

Yes

No

Cpu frequency scaling

Yes

Yes

Sound

Sound works?

Yes

Yes

Correct volume?

Yes

Yes

Hardware volume switch

Yes

Yes

Headphone jack

Yes

Yes

Mic jack

Yes

Untested

Networking

Wired NIC

Yes

Yes

Wireless NIC

see above

Yes, ndiswrapper

139382

PCMCIA NIC

Untested

Untested

Firewire

Untested

Untested

Bluetooth

Yes

Yes

Modem

Untested

Untested

Infrared

Untested

Untested

Touchpad & Mice

Touchpad

Yes

Yes

Touchpad - Doubletap = double click

Yes

Yes

Touchpad - Scroll down side

Yes

Yes

Touchpad - turned off while typing

Untested

Untested

External mouse - USB

Yes

Yes

External mouse - Bluetooth

Yes

External mouse - Serial

N/A

N/A

Docking Station/Port Replicator

AC through replicator

Untested

Untested

USB

Untested

Untested

Serial

Untested

Untested

Parallel

Untested

Untested

External Monitor - VGA

Untested

Untested

External Monitor - DVI

Untested

Untested

Modem

Untested

Untested

NIC

Untested

Untested

PS/2

Untested

Untested

Additional Hardware

Fingerprint reader

Untested

Untested

CD-RW/DVD drive

Yes

Yes

PCMCIA cards

Untested

Untested

Parallel Ports

N/A

N/A

Card reader(s)

Untested

Yes

Function and other keys

Fn key

Operation

Keycode

Works?

Bug #

in Feisty (current stable)?

in Gutsy (current development)?

+ Space

Untested

Untested

+ Esc

Untested

Untested

+ F1

Untested

Untested

+ F2

Untested

Untested

+ F3

Untested

Untested

+ F4

Untested

Untested

+ F5

Untested

Untested

+ F6

Untested

Untested

+ F7

Untested

Untested

+ F8

Untested

Untested

+ F9

Untested

dim screen

+ F10

Untested

brighten screen

+ F11

Untested

Untested

+ F12

Untested

Untested

+ ArrowUp

Untested

Untested

+ ArrowDown

Untested

Untested

+ ArrowRight

Untested

Untested

+ ArrowLeft

Untested

Untested

+ PgUp

Untested

Untested

+ PgDown

Untested

Untested

Other special keys

Key

Operation

Keycode

Works?

Bug #

in Feisty (current stable)?

in Gutsy (current development)?

Key

Untested

Untested

==Team Contact for Page:== Andrew Owen E-mail: m3g4_1337_h3r0@hotmail.com

Notes

Can I please have some contact information for the tester? (KarianneFogHeen)


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