Feedback on KubuntuPowerManagement

New applet!

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• Really nice, Is it possible to put something more like "When battery remaining...... below ...xxx min " add another radio button for "Run this command" - Hint: kshutdown.sf.net . For example: I can run script for "mpg321 battery_low.mp3" (or somefile) and ask me to close applications accessing external drives, to unmount FUSE/sshfs filesystems/encrypted external drives using kdialog popups and hibernate suspend2 (Nigel's). Currently as it is available in suspend2/hibernate script suspending _fails_ if it cannot umount properly..... OK you might say suspend2/hibernate script guys must do this unmounting business but I would prefer this done by myself -user- (rather than root SUID) before running hibernate script as root suid. Further more, different distros handle suspend (using swsusp/suspend2) differently it would be easier to leave it to the end user (Makes sense to have an more customizations/flexibility). Sorry for the long message. Many thanks -- Karthik Shivaji
  • Can you give a use case for that? --sebas

• I loved it! -- JonathanRiddell DateTime(2006-08-11T12:50:53Z)

• I like its simplicity and these are my notes -- LukaRenko DateTime(2006-08-11T20:12:45Z)

  • Lid close does not work due to dbus error (dbus_bindings.DBusException: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/acpi_LID) - FIXED in SVN

  • My laptop does not have SW brighness controls - [http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5156/brightnesseh2.png applet shades the sliders], but it would be better if they would not be shown at all

  • Lid close is not linked with battery/main powered so it should probably be in own section and not under Battery Powered section
  • When I attach second (travel) battery it does not get shown in tooltip (HP nw8240)
    • TODO --sebas
  • Tooltip shows % full twice - in the bar and as text (fixed --sebas)
  • Icons: GNOME icons are ugly and would be nice if some icons (battery, display...) can be added to tooltip/dialog to make it more visually attractive; same for Suspend/Hibernate actions. (fixed, thanks to Ken --sebas)
  • We should disable klaptopdaemon (not even ship it) now that new applet is started by default
  • Key shortcuts for Suspend/Hibernate do not work yet - probably need Sleep/Hibernate/Power key configuration (as Lid close) as most laptops have only one (sleep or hibernate) key and users would like to decide what to do

• Great start, needs tweaking -NickGee

  • Lid close blanked screen but didn't send my system into suspend on a Dell 700M
    • HAL problem? Please confirm that HAL suspend works --sebas
  • Is it possible to have the same functionality of the ubuntu power manager and only display the battery icon when charging or when running on battery? No tray icon needed if we have Suspend/Hibernate on the logout menu like Ubuntu.

    • not sure if I agree, as from usability perspective it is good if functions are always available from same place -- LukaRenko DateTime(2006-08-12T14:03:12Z)

  • Suspend and hibernate worked great
  • Icons: need to fit in with the rest of Kubuntu -ie probably a blue powerup bar (fixed by new icons from Ken --sebas)
• Pretty nice app, I liked kpowersave even better though... -- ["Hunger"]
  • I need to turn of hibernation as that just does not work on my system and thus I do not want to offer that option to the user. How do I do turn it off?

    • HAL claims that your laptop has hibernate, this is why it is offered - submit bug in acpi-support and request that your laptop is removed from whitelist -- LukaRenko DateTime(2006-08-27T12:30:07Z)

  • The icons could use some polish... the plug shown when on AC is half cut of here, etc. (Please confirm if this still exists in the current version, if yes, tell me your panel size and send me a screenshot -> sebas@kde.org)

  • The mouse over window is HUGE for the little information it holds. (fixed --sebas)

• Looks good -- MachinShin DateTime(2006-09-04T10:30:00Z)

  • Will it support battery status for wireless keyboard / mouse? (planned, not implemented right now, and it's also not in HAL yet --sebas)
• I don't get it... Have I missed something? -- Marco Laverdière
  • With all the respect, I don't understand why there's a need to reinvent the wheel. Why not take Kpowermanager (KP) and move it to HAL (I've read that the KP's devs are already working on this and want to collaborate) or at least, if realy there are majors technical obstacles, try to mimic (keep) the features of KP. I've tried the "Guidance Power Manager" utility on Dapper and it appeared to me (maybe I've missed somethig?) that, at least, these 2 obvious (and interrelated) functions are missing:
    • Hibernate/Suspend actions are not only for critical battery status or lid closed situations. They are for... power management/saving needs! One of the main power management/saving need is to have a system hibernate/suspend when it has been left unused for a period of time, because the user had to leave his machine for wathever reason (and forgot/didn't have the time/didn't want to bother to manualy activate hibernate/suspend or to close the lid). To be clear, we need at least an option to hibernate/suspend after a user's determined period of time (even Klaptop have this basic feature...).
    • If you introduce hibernate/suspend functions after a user's predetermined period of time, you need schemes, to make it easy to avoid hibernate/suspend in certain situations, i.e. when the system is left untouched but still used in the sense that the user has started Amarok to listen music, has started OO.o to make a slideshow presentation, etc.
      • Switching something on or off is a two-click action, I doubt introducing a scheme-based setup will make that easier --sebas
  • Please, make sure that this initiative will give Kubuntu the basic and modern power management functions that can be found in all other OSs... Thanks anyway to all the contributors for their work.
    • If you want kpowersave, then just use it. A fundamental discussion whether power-manager should be there or not does simply not make any sense *at_all* at this point. It's not productive critique either, and is most likely ignored. If you want a well-working solution fast, start sending patches. If you don't think it's the right solution, come up with a working one that fits your need. Idletime detection is on the TODO list, though I'm not promising anything. Again, patches welcome. Nobody forces particular solution upon you. --sebas