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You can use this page to nominate items for discussion by the ForumCouncil. See the [http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=198 Forum Council] page for more information about the Council.

Forum Council meetings will be held on #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net (this is subject to change) Next meeting TBD.

General Agenda Items and Proposals

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Motion to remove KiwiNZ from the Ubuntuforums Forums Council and Administration/Moderators teams for his treatment of users.BR

There are several reports by users in the Resolution Forum with regards KiwiNZ's communications and interaction with users.

It has been pointed out that KiwiNZ repeatedly goes against the Staff Guide on Best Practice by moderating threads he is actively posting in.

It has further been alleged that KiwiNZ is rude and abusive of his position in private communications with users. KiwiNZ has recently refused to allow a community member to use his Private Messages in order to evidence a complaint against KiwiNZ for abusive behaviour.

KiwiNZ repeatedly points users to the Code of Conduct yet appears to ignore this very Code in his own actions as outlined above.

We cannot have a community where it is one rule for the user and one rule for the staff. KiwiNZ's repeated poor performance in his communications with users, is undermining the integrity and work of the other Forum Staff and as such is damaging to the community and breeds contempt in the form of an "us and them" dichotomy.

Removal of Beamerboy's "permanent ban" on UbuntuforumsBR

After Beamerboy stated an intent to put forward a motion for KiwiNZ's removal from the Ubuntuforums Council and Administration/Moderator teams, KiwiNZ once again showed poor judgment by permanently banning Paladine's forum account (username: Beamerboy), with the reason "Refusal to accept Forum decisions and insulting staff".

On point 1, Beamerboy never refused to accept a Forum decision and in fact received an infraction for his disagreement with KiwiNZ. I put it to you that it is impossible for a user to "refuse to accept" a "Forum decision" as they have no power, authority or control over the forums. Therefore they are forced to accept any action or decision taken by Forum staff, whether they agree with it or not. Furthermore, banning a user for having a difference of opinion with a staff member is abuse of station. Finally on this point, Beamerboy accepted without question, a compromise of creating a new subforum for hardware devices, which was put forward by KiwiNZ himself.

On Point 2, KiwiNZ has failed to evidence his allegation that Beamerboy insulted any member of staff and in fact refused to allow Beamerboy to publish the private communications between himself and Beamerboy in order to defend this allegation. Beamerboy confessed and apologised for referring to KiwiNZ as a "moron" (which he did only once in a discussion with Jdong and promptly apologised for.) on IRC, it should be noted that KiwiNZ was not in the channel in which the discussion took place so the slur effected him in no way, shape or form. Furthermore, a user referring to a staff member as a "moron" in a purely reactionary and human manner on a medium such as IRC, in no way warrants a permanent ban on a completely different medium such as the forums.

In conclusion, the ban should be removed as it was vexatious in nature and unwarranted punishment which is neither substantiated by further evidence nor just punishment for a single, reactionary comment in another medium which was immediately apologised for.

Discussions on this meetings topics can be found at the [http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=199 Ubuntuforums FC section] or on the following [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda/Discussion wiki page]

Previous Meeting Discussions

The Forum Council had a very productive meeting today!

Here is what was covered:

Summary:

1. Partners lunge postponed until which time it has proper representation

2. The forum council has created a new position of LoCo Team Administrator. This person will handle all LoCo requests on the UbuntuForums. This is a 1 year term that can be renewed. To start this off the FC has elected Vorian since he was already heading up the LoCo section of the forums.

3. The FC voted against allowing pictures in forum members signatures.

4. The FC voted to welcome Artificial Intelligence back as a staff member.

5. The FC voted against having a sticky of a user map.