{{{ so tonight the meeting is going to be a little different i suck at pool tired Oh hi meeting time roadmap: and respond slower, sheesh mhall119: is going to kind of run this] I am here for input mhall119, In the process of falling asleep in my chair over here. kind of a lot going on here at the moment okay, show of hands? :-P o/ * roadmap is armless * crashsystems does not know ascii art for hands lol crashsystems crashsystems: o/ okay, well that makes 3 of us \o anyone else? yo 5 :-P dantalizing: pak33m chaynie ChunkxZor: was here earlier zoopster jamalta: I know is driving Random question before the meeting starts telepathy? Anyone know of a good twitter library that works on the lunix? roadmap: yes The Perl CPAN module fails oh yeah So I'm willing to try *gasp* python i need to reboot if im gonna stay in fior the meeting roadmap: that's your question quota until after the meeting roadmap: you should seriously check out Quickly mhall119, Will it let you set the client name, version, and URL? if you do roadmap: nope, gotta wait now For example I want it to say like "from " and link to a custom URL Lol happened again telepathy: I was actually talking to you that time mhall119, Hey, its all related! I'm done asking if it does what I ask. Hi telepathy ! alrighty then, kicking this meeting off suh-weet Use Blueprints in our Launchpad team to plan and track LoCo projects and initiatives * Michelle_Qimo waves at telepathy sounds good Wait so you mean I actually need to use my launchpad account for something? anyone have the link about the negative blog ? there was a discussion at UDS yesterday about using the blueprint functionality in Launchpad to plan and track LoCo initiatives itnet7: http://www.sourcecode.de/content/re-ubuntu-target-practice I just though it was cool to have one. Like a facebook. You don't really have to do anything with it but sign up. I think it's a good idea, launchpad would let us to things like "subscribe" to initiatives we want to be updated about it will also let us close them when we accomplish them, and track how we're doing we currently have an LP project for the ubuntu-fl.org website So you essentially want something like developer milestones except they actually are met on time? we can either use that or make a new project for loco initiatives That is sooooo funny =( its true. roadmap: yeah, also being able to break large projects into smaller chunks, and assign them around A devleopers favorite sound is the sound of a milestone whizzing by. we already have https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida, why not just make blueprints there? roadmap: that's deadlines. mhall119, fine "incomplete milestone deadline" sorry roadmap talking about the link comparing 50 rounds of shooting in a gun range to murdering children, etc, etc crashsystems: that's a group, I don't think you can attach blueprints to a group I'm tired and those are big words * itnet7 gets back on task sorry https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida So yeah sounds good. should I be paying attention? crashsystems: yeah, I don't see an Add button there who is the group owner? Don't expect me to actually offer much since I still haven't bothered to learn anything about launchpad. Srsly. itnet7: what do you think of this idea? itnet7 (who I assume is group owner): can the group itself have blueprints? crashsystems: it's itnet7 mhall119: hold on let me catch up As for group initiatives, what exactly is the Florida LoCo planning to do? thats the next topic roadmap did i miss the beginning of the meeting? roadmap: whenever we have a booth at an event like FLS Are these going to be more like code contributions (or new software) to the Ubuntu project? Or could this be anything from meetings/parties/etc? or have another build day That clarifies that or some of the advocacy projects we've talked about roadmap: probably not code contributions Yes I do think it's a good idea mhall119, but I thought the ubuntu developers loved all patches submitted in perl itnet7: can we put blueprints on a group, or do we need a project? Maybe that explains why nobody takes me srsly when I try and fix something I am pretty sure that we can do the blueprints based on a group but I can check tomorrow to be certain as I didn't attend that session maybe it just needs to be enabled some how, I didn't see an option to do that for my Qimo groups let me check something out brb chunkxzor, (off topic question) did our buddy Maistor ever get back to you about the guy that was supposed to call him? No I'll ask the guy if he called later mhall119: I think that we can propose a project and list the Floco as a driver * roadmap gets back on topic but I would have to check into it to be sure itnet7: okay I'm assuming that since it was discussed at UDS, it would be okay I do think it is okay I will also check on that do you remember how lead that talk? not who oops not how, who! lol I am sorry can't type that well tonight itnet7: no, sorry, 24 hours is too long for my memory lol pak33m was in there, maybe he can tell you mhall119, you went to UDS as well? I can find out by looking at the track and will and I will ask for a recap any questions before we move on to the next item? roadmap: he is attending remotely Ah roadmap: I don't think so, we're participating remotely and has been very active so has FFEMTcJ ;-) Yeah I just like Linux. Activity solely depends on the food content of the party. I mean what? UDS should have cardboard cut-outs of the people in the IRC channels. you would roadmap I have been trying to post links when I can, as I have tried to webcast some of the none recorded sessions (video) crashsystems: what makes you think they don't? I'll try to pay more attention tomorrow crashsystems: that would Rock! crashsystems, holograms would be cheaper (holographs? whatever, I'm tired). And it would save trees. I did not see cut-outs in the video stream itnet7 did crashsystems: they're all behind the camera okay, moving right along... ah, ok its hard knowing who is who isnt it mhall119 Find a new project to support now that FLS is over cant see anyone and they dont say anything in irc if you go to ubuntu-fl.org you will see 2 supported projects mhall119, I say we support the "BRF" project. brf? mhall119, BRF is the "buy roadmap food" project. It starts with a simple donation of food to my house once a week every week for ten years. roadmap dont say bacon :( coming from you im not sure i wanna ask probably don't want to know roadmap: we need something we all want to be involved in mhall119, I want to be involved in the getting of me food lulz, he can share with us? so anyway, we have FLS 2009 and Qimo as supported projects and while I appreciate all the support the LoCo has given us, I don't want to be the only thing we support we need to put FLS 2010 up - or whatever incarnation FLS is going to have agreed in the past ALF was up there too can we get the march womens event up? I was thinking a long-term thing, instead of just an upcoming event FFEMTcJ: you should have attended the last session with SABDFL I like the idea of some fun programming project. The thing is, is there any such project that enough people would be interested in? oh, well then he was answering questions as soon as he read them in irc there are several technical and non-technical projects out there that we could all be involved with mhall119: Yeah I agree crashsystems, I think we're all too language diverse here to first pick a suitable language, then agree upon what functionality the project should have miss some good stuff? i went to one that i was really interested in..which was good, but maybe i missed the better one roadmap: python should be the default language actually roadmap, I think that the majority language is probably python :D crashsystems: that's the thing, we need something that the entire loco can meaningfully contribute to crashsystems, not to mention if we are going to do it right, get a project manager on the task of organizing and planning the entire project, class diagrams, etc, etc, pain ROFL crashsystems, what? I thought everyone here loved perl. I could have sworn I remember everyone telling me how much they enjoyed it. if it involves inflicting pain on roadmap, count me in I will gladly project manage I'd imagine that in typical Open Source style, it would more likely work if we found a dead but functioning project we are interested in, and take it over. there are several very worthy community projects out there, like ubuntu-women, ubuntu-learning and ubuntu-ngo mhall119: i think we need a list of projects we could decide to participate in and have a vote on what we want to do as a team a while back we voted that for projects that we wanted to try and get new contributors and non-devs involved in that Python would yield the most benefit Well it also dependson the scope of the project if there are that many We could start with tiny patch submissions to projects like Firefox (or something) and eventually move from there Erm, can I *request* something? Michelle_Qimo: ? depends I think first we should decide if we want to do a code project or a community project michelle I need an inventory program. or, if possible, support another loco why not do one of each * FFEMTcJ kicks Michelle_Qimo Michelle_Qimo: that would be an easy project using quickly ;-) mhall119, Thats always a good idea. There are quite a few dead or very small LoCos that could use a membership boost we can do one of each if we can get enough participation why am I being kicked? hey all im here but at work still I don't want to spread too thin what sort of inventory program? itnet7: speaking of which. i want to look at those later inventory tracking namely for all the mung out in the shop and Unless your talking about one that will do the inventorying automagically without any manual labor A really nice Lunix game of d00m may be fun so you are talking about general purpose stuff in the inventory? Simply because everyone says Linux can't do games erm, no, I'm happy to manually labor. I just don't want to have to track it all in an excel spreadsheet mhall119: i think we would be able to include more people if we did both.. someone who doesnt want to do one could do the other cause that's sucky I know a few graphic artists and game designers. They aren't famiiar with OpenGL or anything but if we can find a sexy Open Source Game Engine that will run on the Lunixness we can totally do something with that FFEMTcJ: if we have enough people who want to be a part of one or the other, then sure * dhillon-v10 says hi to everyone hi dhillon-v10 FFEMTcJ, hi :) roadmap: too complex, the barrier to contribution would be high hi dhillon-v10 Michelle_Qimo, hi Michelle_Qimo: do you think you could brainstorm a list of features and mail it to the list? Michelle_Qimo, or better yet cookies mhall119, believe it or not I find game design to be quite easy as long as you take out the graphical element. Physics, collisions, movement, even enemy AI (which I'm a bit underqualified to handle but can do simplistic algorithims) crashsystems: sure thing. roadmap: that's because you're brilliant Could probably one-up that request - we've got some mockups mhall119: i still think we need a few choices to list out of each(all) tpes...to decide what we want to do mhall119, wat you guyz tell me i'm slow FFEMTcJ: I agree roadmap, hi :) roadmap: we only do that to make yourselves feel better dhillon-v10, hey, welcome to the meeting. mhall119: maybe try to compile a list for the next meeting and have a vote then? mhall119, you mean you lie to me and tell me I'm smart? Well thats just awesome! mhall119, can you start saying that out loud in public too? At least in front of large groups of women. Please? roadmap: we lie and tell you you're slow We're off topic Im guilty again =( roadmap: you are roadmap, lol women :) okay, so I'll put together a list of community projects, if anyone knows of some good code projects we can contribute to send me a note next topic? someone is logging right? that's all the topics mhall119, how about a twitter API! the channel is always logged FFEMTcJ ok then roadmap: use whatever gwibber uses roadmap: I wrote python bindings for the twitpic.com api okay, open mic time karaoke? * FFEMTcJ is scared * Michelle_Qimo clears throat go ahead Michelle_Qimo hhm * Michelle_Qimo is thinking of songs Michelle_Qimo: there is pykaraoke and Can we add to the list, Bug Triage? Or have a goal of triaging a certain number of Ubuntu Bugs or another project? for the Loco Is there an easy way of tracking that? X-Man: that would be a good thing for a blueprint set a goal of x many triages yeah mhall119, how about 5 a day :) I am currently in the bugsquad mentorship program.. maybe try to get more people to complete? there used to be a desktop 5 a day tracker in honor of UDS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI there is still the 5 a day group FFEMTcJ: what's the level of involvement for that? this guy is just creepy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2cR30Q7WVk&feature=player_embedded FFEMTcJ, I want to apply but I am not good at solving bugs can you help me out there There are a lot of things that are being discussed here that could use developer love mhall119: its a two month program.. to get things ready for Lucid dhillon-v10: its not solving.. its mostly confirming and such itnet7: let me know if there is one that you think would be good for us I went to the meeting on the mentorship program today, and had some input on the decisions that were made for the direction of the program.. another karaoke http://www.ultrastar.pl/ I say maybe try to get 10 people to complete the program in 6 months? its a two month program.. FFEMTcJ, how does the program work out I will try and come up with a few ideas dhillon-v10: you sign up, get a mentor, work with your mentor for two months.. FFEMTcJ, ahh, I have a mentor but he's helping me out with MOTU stuff did you know that with Quickly you can use quickly to push up to your own ppa with just a simple one line command https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved cool It will be great once quicly has translation support i def want to look into quickly FFEMTcJ: that is one of the links I had promised you weeks back, sorry! lmao I think we need some Benny Lava in here tonight. lol I can't believe I just watched that whole video Michelle_Qimo Yeah seriously lol crashsystems: :D you'll sing it for the next week there's a claymation video, too o_O what else? um... I think he has a CD available... mhall119: I will check on the stuff about how to best use Launchpad... and? oh, sorry, you will check I fail reading comprehension Yeah, and I am about to have my battery die but before it does I wanted to say we were kicking around the idea of trying to get loco teams to earn karma based on participation i saw that somewhere not sure if all of you had heard that or not nope, hadn't heard. But, I haven't been paying attention and with the loco event directory innitiative it will be easier to provide support, as we are going to have to go for re-approval soon actually it was originally set for 2 years chris, what is involved in re-approval? the team just kind of has to show that we are alive and kicking I have photos for proof! ok.. so no real work that needs to be done and that we continue to deserve to be an approved team no you dont yes Michelle_Qimo ! Has everyone heard of "Ubuntu Hour?" we are alive, and kicking ass, tyvm. no nope https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour it probably won't be difficult considering we have always had good presence at UDS, and plenty of events and participation/contribution Mentoring other teams also came up as well which I know that some of us have been doing but it would be cool for Michelle_Qimo to earn Karma for her orgnzing skills anyone want to do an ubuntu hour in orlando itnet7: so, tell me how I can do this. Oh, yeah the ubuntu hour thing is cool!!! Michelle_Qimo: we just discussed it today aah OK We hope to try and figure a way to implement it who all is in the orlando area? itnet7: do you have the link of the session schedule? but that way those that contribute in very talented ways can also get karma and recognition FFEMTcJ: we're close enough to count crashsystems: yes crashsystems: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/ http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/2009-11-18/ Tomorrows then just change the date for the rest of the week mines the whole week :-P and first :-P messin with ya itnet7 FFEMTcJ: lol So What'd I miss, I walked away =( food WAT? we were discussing the feed roadmap initiative.. but you werent here to finalize the plans so we scrapped it sorry can't keep up with the meetings here thats BRF Do you earn Karma for organizing an Ubuntu Hour? You have it all wnrong FFEMTcJ: I like you more and more i renamed it How about "buy roadmap a predator BK 2 breaking cue" rofl watch out.. my wife might get jealous nah, I like her too much, too hehe well in that case.. heh oh, hush, you :-P So. itnet7, everyone else, you know I'm willing to organize the snot out of something. Just tell me what and where I wonder if there is a way to tie any launchpad work into a loco.. maybe that is something we should suggest for launchpad.. Lol my closet crashsystems: can do that when itnet7 gets karma, fl gets karma too FFEMTcJ: lol actually, everything in there could get thrown away and I would not care well, then it'll be easy wow, I am surprised I still have Karma lol you are Karma, itnet7 :D lol Michelle_Qimo it does degrade when you aren't contributing do I get Karma for running Karmic? lol crashsystems: everyone should get karma for installing Karmic that would be cool if you got like 20 never expire points how does one express the cheesy-joke drum sound in ascii? for installing each version lol I don't know but installed Jono's lolocopter app crashsystems: ba-dum-tish or utf8 for that matter but it's not ascii what, unicode? I would like to maybe do something on the website that maybe requires login info to get to.. but includes like real name, irc name (and elsewhere if different) a picture, a location, etc.. could have as much or little info as a particular user wants to give but make it somewhere where you have to login to get to so we dont broadcast everything.. that would probably be best on the wiki So wait you want a facebook Only roadmap: no on the Ubuntu Loco how about we just integrate the Facebook API into the website? Let users ilnk their accounts OK, everyone. I'm way tired. Someone poke me if I'm needed? no status crap or anything like that * FFEMTcJ pokes Michelle_Qimo FFEMTcJ, Why reinvent the wheel when someone has done it for you (and probably bettert) better <- sigh. i want something basic.. FFEMTcJ: are you talking about your own blog, or ubuntu-fl.org u-fl like a who's who page just really basic info tho.. not anything crazy like facebook FFEMTcJ: we had a couple of ideas for something similar a picture, so we have a reference as to who we are talking to online/offline.. a first name or whatever.. what part of fl.. and if you want your contact info or whatever kind of like the hall-of-fame.ubuntu.com teammates.ubuntu-fl.org? teammates would work.. itnet7: i guess kinda like hall of fame, but for everyone.. no one left behind sorta works with the whole community building idea lol yup We also thought about doing stuff like, 5-10 minute blog-style interviews of team members but like i said.. private, so that not everyone can get into it OOOH, I wanna do that! Oh itnet7: can I conduct 'em? FFEMTcJ: by everyone i mean outside of the group everyone.. all members have access I understand what you mean now like for mine.. FFEMTcJ, Chris, Orlando, FL and a picture waht we were talking about was to kind of highlight team contributors and encourage others ya.. im talking a roster i guess? lol Isn't there wiki pages on Ubuntu community like this already? ok, now I really am calling it a night. Night all! Poke me if there's something important. night Michelle_Qimo X-Man: i havent seen one.. doesnt mean it isnt there tho isn't this an example of what you are talking about https://edge.launchpad.net/~itnet7 even more basic but all on one page you can click on https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida and them click on a member's profile right.. but that takes a while.. and if their name isnt the same as their nick.. or whatever Uhhhhhhhhhhh Meeting over? Again I've been AWOL night all night X-Man itnet7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Users similar to that Michelle_Qimo: yes you can do the interviews if you want to that would be sweet!!! cause i know the faces, and know the irc nicks, but id like an easy way to put them together FFEMTcJ: I think that your idea is a good one also is pak33m around? but if there is no other interest, thats cool too I'm looking for a second cue recommendation I think I've out grown my current stick and who here plays pool? if pak33m or Michelle_Qimo whoever would like to can look at the minutes and digest them into action items that would be awesome! no pressure if either one of you can't but I think we discussed a lot of ideas good ideas I should have said I will find out tomorrow about using blueprints to manage team projects and the best way to do it itnet7: if you get more info, im interested in that as well cool will let you all know talk with you tomorrow }}}