IRC Logs from January 20, 2009 meeting: {{{ Can we do a quick roll call to try and see who's actually present? * itnet7 I'm here! * pak33m|work1 is leavin - well, work that is * dantalizing waves Okay.. I guess everyone is so excited they can't type :-) lies they just cant type I guess we can start, Here is the link for the meetings, if you scroll down you will see we have four items on the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Meetings Wow... seriously tough crowd... should we wait for some more discussion in general before starting? ive had meetings by myself before Wow, we need to try and change that.... is there a quick way of sending a nudge to everyone in the channel? like a script or something? i dont have one Ok... bear with me [pnp]tomas ANTrat Ax3 CardinalFang Catsceo Chaosfactor clintc clinctc_home Cozma DigitalUN fauxhawk ianmcorvidae LupServer MianoSM Sindacious statik youri zbrown zoopster zzzzZZZZzzz Are you guys around? Yes I am. Thanks for the ping! ohai Sorry guys but your input is valuable :-) Lets give it a couple of more min.'s then we'll get started, k? BOOM bah, didn't know about the meeting Sorry Catsceo, we will do a better job of giving notice. but we are going to try to have more regular meetings based on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Meetings (Schedule) Do you have time Cats? yeah, I'm good Cool dantalizing you have the floor! :-) We're doing a Bug Jam in Miami on 2/21 to coincide with the Ubuntu Global Bug Jam and afterward we're just gonna go out for a social meetup at the moment we have confirmed Brikolodge as the Bug Jam location and we are targeting Titanic Brewery as the meetup place I'm still looking for alternative places for the Bug Jam, so if yo know someone in Miami please, let me know I think ropetin is from Miami.... so far we have 8 confirmed for the Jam *crickets* I know it's kind of far for a lot of people... but bear in mind, that when/if you have events no, no crickets have confirmed and you want people to go Jam when? CardinalFang: 2/21 Brikolodge in Miami the 2/22 BarCamp! Ah, dang. so itnet7 i'll fill out the project page and send a notice out to the mailing lists i'll do that tomorrow CardinalFang where are you located? out of curiousity? Thanks Dan... I will add that to our Gobby document :-) Can everyone please update their locations on the team Roster in Launchpad I had my location in there, did it get lost? that we we can better coordinate carpools <- Orlando Mhall119, I should have said double check them for Accuracy :-) gotcha https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida <--- this is where we need the doublecheck hey, there's someone else from lakeland bordy Currently have @170 Members and 127 of them need locations he's a ghost though well they cant all stay at my house how do you set locations? * CardinalFang is going to dantalizing's house. Right now. Catsceo you have to login to Launchpad and click on Do it for them now k https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Roster Is way out of date. MianoSM: that is the old school way of joining the team LP supercedes that page ok, why am I not on the map and not listed as someone without a location someone should probably add a comment to the top of that page and say its deprecated.. and add a link to the launchpad site for someone who wants to join the team CatsCEO, actually after you login to Launchpad you can set your location in your profile, it should automatically update it for the team oh hint hint MianoSM well it doesn't mine is set but doesn't appear on the team page I thought only MS deprecated stuff. :( wait, nm I hid mine Ah....that explains it lol https://launchpad.net/~/+editlocation i want to add myself! youri is awake and igorgue joined nice better late then never igorgue sorry i didnt get those hooters pics to you igorgue Catsceo... don't be rude... :-P :'( :P Catsceo: is not rude, I'm the badass here :P ORLY Does anyone have any questions about the FLorida linux Show? Is everyone planning on attending the Jacksonville show on March 9th? YRLY! I will be there and Smita I knew that you were going silly <---Plans on attending. sweet * Catsceo can't check out my sweet username i just set up, guys: https://launchpad.net/~omgomgomg omg ROFL so how do i join this florida team couldn't see Obama speech on moonlight :( https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida igorgue: because mono is evil :) igorgue: hack on rhythmbox! I don't care about Obama I just wanted to see Moonlight working :) We are going to put a sign up area for people that want to help man the booth okay i am in your team! ohhh yea!!! do i get free sh*t? and we were thinking about hosting a install party... free what?? i want a t-shirt you get a pen and a hat You get to get involved and volunteer all of your time :-) how am i going to volunteer without a t-shirt and a hat? HA! canonical sends us like 2 shirts 1 hat 4 pens and 100 CDs We will have some swag for the Florida Linux Show youri , are you planning on going? oh and some brochures okay i'll take the two shirts i'm in tampa :| same They are reserved for people who contribute :-P tampa isn't that far... You guys can make it! We really need to try and get some support at these events, if our team is going to make a difference for Ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Roster updated. Decent? when is the next thing that is closer to tampa I will be there, Dan will be at most events, and Pak... but we need others too last year we had a good turnout, i thought youri: FLS is coming to Orlando in October tentatively. :) what's a fls Florida Linux Show cool MianoSM: nice Kind of limited on editing that page, but it's noted at least now. ;) +1 Very Nice Miano Thanks!! You guys will be receiving some e-mails with some links that you can use if interested Ready to move on to the last topic? Where is the sign-up for FLS booth going to be? Catsceo, you even use fios like me! MianoSM we will make a sign up page and send the details through the mailing-list kk, sounds good. youri what is fios? fiber verizon's fiber optic internet Oh... BNC on your desktop? are you guys old Miano...vampire taps :-) thicknet ftw Ways we can try and help improve participation, promote team building?? give people t-shirts more free shirts youri: what about $20 or less T-Shirts? and bring your sister sisters* youri... show up to one event, help out, and you'll get a shirt... but your missing the point i was just kidding guys, i don't care about a t-shirt ;-) I do! i got some ubuntu stickers! i put one on my bumper and it fell off Your bumper didn't fall of because of the sticker silly no the sticker fell off! rofl I was thinking there are ways that we can locally try and help grow our team. Many hands lighten the load, The Florida Team can help the Ubuntu Project in Many ways.. Like at UDS, we mentioned possibly putting up fliers in Libraries, etc with team contact info, and even having a central place that all loco's can get presentations that they might want to use, so they can present at a moments notice. I have created a Launchpad team called Local Community and Advocacy Presentations and Media https://edge.launchpad.net/~locoimpress for this purpose... We might not need this separate group, and if it makes sense we can move the members over to the Ubuntu Marketing Team. Having an online presentation available would be a huge boon. I know of at least one or two areas that I personally could present. i've converted maybe 20 people to linux in my life There is all that I wanted to say on the topic, but I do want to get feedback on what ideas people may have that could help us be able to contribute easieer Youri, good job man! i'm a hero you're something ROFL but i signed the code of conduct oen of the people convinced their work to switch to linux on a file server I think you're the ham on a hero maybe i think you should make it fun itnet7 itnet7: i just realized a couple of days ago that spreadubuntu is trying ot put all the marketing materials in one place I saw that * Catsceo is trying to get a site up for us I joined their group php is fun (not) currently as a team we have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Marketing/Collateral for something that has 'marketing' in it's url that seems so bland :[ it needs excitement! i didnt realize spreadubuntu had an lp team This is where you can help youri!!! by putting pictures of dragons and stars on wikis? im not a good marketer!!! wtf ... they're using lp mailing list ugh Well I was just thinking that their focus is a little more broad and we can always become a subteam Marketing is very important, and even the ubuntu marketing team wiki's last update was 5 or so months ago we need a mascot and not a manatee, i hate those i nominate my dog hax not dog hax dog, hax OH THE GREAT MANATEE wait huge* manatees are slow and bloated, bad imagery flamingo! gay HA! itnet7: I know I missed the conversation, but I will be at the Jacksonville show, representing my charity with a vendor table FL panther? youri... you have learn about the code of conduct Manatee = Natures Speed Bump. Terrible. sorry! manatee are okay! mhall119 I remember I helped you set it up :-) lol i think the florida ubuntu mascot should be a shark oh, right, ha our current mascot is a ibex :-) youri: sharks aren't exactly known for their humanity towards others Changing every six months. really? ibex? that doesn't even life in florida ;[ okay than a dolphin! Nice. he can be called baboomba, the florida ubuntu team mascot dolphin Well I would like to see us try and reach more people, and we need more contributors that can help make that possible I think we should create a page off the wiki for a team brainstorm.... And as we get ideas, we can discuss them at future meetings Anyone think that is a good idea? itnet7: just my .02, but I think this group is small as is, and don't feel enthralled about joining more sub-groups of an already meager one. I think we need to think about this more in terms of Florida, than Ubuntu yea mhall! and build florida ubuntu pride! MianoSM I appreciate your input, but if we could get all 170 involved... we can achieve a lot how many of those 170 are active, I'd guess many came and went a long time ago? flubuntu itnet7: why not just make that part of the ubuntu-fl mandate? it's kind of hard to hold anyone accountable with open enrollment youri: sounds too much like fluxbuntu what would you suggest nothing I am not focused on the 170 active/inactive members we currently have the point is that we need to try and get some fresh blood in here hi CardinalFang that will do their best and contribute when and where they can I have a full-time job, and a family too, and I am at practically every event we decide to attend as a team and on top of it 2nd and 4th Tuesday of every month I do presentations for a Windows User group's Linux SIG itnet7: I might be bringing a friend from school to the next tampa meetup, if she can go when is the next tampa meet up! So I am doing as much as I can... but we need to attract some others who want to give baack and be a part of something Feb 7 yup cool let's do this thing! what do you guys do at meetings youri: http://www.meetup.com/Tampa-Linux/calendar/9466606/ youri: get the crunch cakes, you will not be disappointed. i say we decide on a cool tagline for florida ubuntu that's why i like my florida jeep club! we have cool stickers and logos and such itnet7: you know about my charity, I've heard from someone in Tallahassee that is doing something similar, maybe that kind of de-centralized giving is the answer Hello,,new one here Hey there vigo welcome aboard vigo: welcome! :) Is NW Florida allowed or whatever just after your speech about us needing new people, one pops up :P Yipee yep do you have to sign up on that meetup place to come to the meetup? Hello, are there any plans for our group to meet around Orlando or any Linux events scheduled for Orlando this year ? Mike, October youri: its prefered, but not I don't think so Mike_Feravolo: Florida Linux Show will be hosted in Orlando in October: http://floridalinuxshow.org thanks .com* vigo, pretty sure That's cool Neato they haven't decided the place yet Mike_Feravolo: there's one in Jacksonville March 9th if you can make it We had an intrepid release party the first week of November in Orlando I can sail to just about anywhere on the ICW And we plan to do some more events including a Jaunty release itnet7: how about a page where people give testimony and suggestions about using Ubuntu to give back to their communities Not Likely Jacksonville is a-ways away I don't think any singular effort will work, but a collection of very local efforts might I like a lot of your ideas mhall119! Mike_Feravolo: I'm coming from Lakeland to attend Jax would be a bus ride for me, I do not drive cars anymore maybe people can carpool so we can save the environment! go flubuntu! itnet7: is there something online to coordinate carpooling? no flubuntu There are three Ubuntu users that I have assisted installing here We usually do have carpool sign up's on the individual project pages. flubuntu is going viral, mhall ubuntu doesn't have viruses mhall119: really? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Projects/IntrepidReleaseParty look at the bottom of this page and you'll see what I mean. DANG There's an idea for a project writing Linux viruses :-) MianoSM: yes, we just have highly sophisticated self-replicating molecules Bad Bunny! Mike_Feravolo: that idea came out in 1981,first Virus was written on a Mac itnet7: can you setup a google map, like you have for member locations, or outreach locations? for outreach locations With virtual pins and stuff? we discussed one earlier guys please dont' write a virus! i am in the florida team now and i don't want to be involved in this conspiracy its on the team launchpad page of course, the virtual pins are key to the whole thing, it won't work without them mhall119, I ma sure that it can be done... but really should create a proposed project on your project page I have a project page? hold on a sec https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Projects it's a wiki there is a proposed section... where you can put a description and contact info itnet7: get with me sometime about the ETQW server. I went sailing for a year after Fawn, or whatever... and we can bring it up at the next meeting okay MianoSM Ubuntu is still the best hands on , user friendly distro I have ever come across. agreed vigo itnet7: you want me to put QuinnCo on there? Oh we do have a map? I think that the QuinnCo might be better suited for a full Launchpad project, you could use bazaar let me get my Lon/Lat readings I tried bazaar on the exploded LiveCD, and it choked Oh... Yeah size's you can use mirrors then and re-direct from launchpad N 3025.7, W 08641.4 but your project will get a lot of help I tried bzr local, and it still choked I need to just create a .DEB for it, since it's just a customized Ubuntu, and put that on launchpad That's the thinking!!!! good idea I great project would be to get an Major Ubuntu Event to be held in Orlando, instead of some lame city like Portland Oregon. but right now I'm stuck on USplash customization MianoSM, in the last week 5 people at least have joined the team, now what if all five of them became as actiive as Pak33m, dantalizing, zoopster, catsceo, or me? itnet7: I'm at a loss as to the direction of your question. I went to do bug triage the other day, but none of the new ones were for packages I use I am not sure if I joined or not,,,but will be happy to share what I know about some very old school stuff. We have plans for something like that, but due to the financial hardships it's hard to try and organize something like that without support vigo: does that include old school imacs? imacs, Altairs, TRS 80, Zenith Mainframes. MianoSM, I guess I misunderstood your $.02 and others vigo: I'm trying to get Ubuntu running on an old world imac g3, but can't get the video card running above 640x480, any ideas? mhall119: ubuntu PPC support sucks now, move to debian Many,,you may not want to hear them I have Debian Etch on my iBook G3 catsceo, I have ubuntu intrepdi running in my PS3? what is so bad about it? Catsceo[EEE]: I might try that, but I have an Ubuntu derivative that I want to put on these imacs iBook G3 is alot older than a PS3 shall1119: Those macs were so hardware encoded, is almost better to compile a better one and use it and I said support, not features. I would prefer ubuntu http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/8.10/release/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-powerpc.iso itnet7: I have the Xubuntu 8.10 CD and I got it to install tried, failed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/8.10/release/ wouldn't even boot just low-res graphics I was doing /server/ Edit the xorg.conf? For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks as well as IBM OpenPower machines. vigo: I'm not sure what to edit it too That alternate-powerpc .iso should work like I said, I got it installed, but xorg is only at 640x480 oh that was from the alternate cd? I don't know if it's the driver, or if the monitor isn't sending the available modes itnet7: yes I had to stop the install mid-way and modprobe the CD driver, but other than that it went fine mhall119: First rule, make a backup, then look at the forums, I have seen some neato ones posted there. neato what? xorg files? Yes I prefer Ruby, but have seen some in native languages that seem to work. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-978860.html some of this may help 8.10 seems to have done alot of backwards compatability, is nifty that it did. The PPC stuff on it works rather well. thanks itnet7 itnet7, what's up dog I can try and help you find a true xorg.conf file hey there marine1 what's good in da hood end of a meeting Is the meeting over?