START MEETING can i get a show of hands? *claps* - bodycoach2/Danny here Herro ill give it just a min for others I have something else to discuss later too Cat: cool well open that up * elcasey checks in hey mark007 & elcasey anybody else? Pak33m/Jimmy? Did you go to Portland? bodycoach2: yes, what a time! i need to sign back up for the mailing list and launchpad...are the links on the LoCo wiki page? yes cool Did you get to visit the Free Geek mothership? newp elcasey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387138 oh, nm bodycoach2: yes i wanna discuss that here ok, jst so everybody knows our hero bordy will be here later yes :) everybody can follow along with our agenda here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387138 but feel free to add on to the conv when were done there's an agenda there? i would like to run through each of the topics one-by-one ooops sorry i meant here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FloridaTeam/Meetings thx sorry I was late. what did I miss? first topic is Discuss the promotion of Ubuntu/Linux/F(L)OSS amongst specific small businesses nothing much yet elementc: hiya thanks, Catseco. hi pakmaster anybody wanna start with any ideas? yes I've had some struggles with helping small business with Ubuntu My dad works at bob Steele Chevrolet. they're gonna fir their techs (porn on the servers or summat) I could get a job there and introduce it bodycoach2: what struggles? It's still interesting that techs wouldn't be smart enough to keep porn off work servers. When school starts around here I'm going to try to get in contact with the school board to see if I could get there old computers, put Ubuntu on them, and then give them to the needy I put that on the agenda well, they were idiots. it was Wndows server 2000 I mean like to target a specific group (Real Estate Offices, Doctors, etc) Catsceo.....that's what Free Geek's objective is >< I have a school interested in me doing a LTSP project for them not doctors/dentists. htey have some specific windows-only databases elemetc: you should get in there and take over! Vetinary, I found a great Linux based package we had this discussion on gatorlug as well LTSP? maybe i moved one smal business to linux i think the biggest ? is how to intro businesses to ubuntu, etc? they had some specialized windows software Although it will be a charitable project on my part really? detils, please but i was able to run that on one of the local desktops mail em free cds I've been working on getting some volunteer organizations to switch to Ubuntu and put linux on thier server so you can sometimes work aroudn the specialized apps I think, if we can start at the volunteer org level, it will give businesses a model of operation to observe Basically I think you have to offer someone a solution, rather than CDs or applications Ropetin - exactly! They want assistance. rop: yes im with you there but how would we do it...networking, schools? it's like chris dibona once said: You'll scare them off by pushing just one platform. push everything and things get interesting Schools are good, although state ones are in MS pocket Rop, Pak, there needs to be some sort of local support structure around here they all use Macs (Pasco) bodycoach2: the volunteer level is a tremendous place to start considering the $ involved (or lack of it) ropetin: not really. SBBC has firfox/tunderbird on their ftp server, and about 25% are macs Pak - exactly. Many simply don't have the funds to equipment, especially software prices most of the computrs in the school board building are RHEL 5 does anybody here do any technology consulting? On Linuxtoday.com , there have been some good articles about Ubuntu/Linux in Law Offices pak i did in the past was looking to start up again pak3m: I maintain about 90 compters at a local elementary school Law Offices are hard though, aren't they tied into Wordpoerfect? doesn't OO.o do word perfect? OpenOffice will have to come up to Legal standards, before the local ones are accepting of Ubuntu as a solution Well yes, but they use it for the interface apparently wordperfect used to be available on linux might be available somewhere In Canada, many have already switched, but their stands are a bit different dant: what would you say is the best approach to small businesses with ubuntu, open source, etc hit the servers first people love their desktops elementc: perfect for introducing LTSP! its harder to get them to switch that servers get a foot in the door nah, It'd be a waste. they're all fairly powerful Pentium IVs. Small places that don't use Active Directory? and make a desktop push easier later thats been my experience rop: good point there dant- I think another place is to look for new business, and work with them, instead of established businesses i havent seen small businesses using AD besides, they kinda have to use windows. some sorta educational program' Business that have already set their operational standards are going to be VERY resistant to change unless a power failure brings the entire thing crashing around their pointy ears I think a lot of places tht have had some kind of IT Consultant come in use AD, just because it was recommended Self employeed, 1-5 person business, especially in the labor/house market are going to be more receptive to the costs savings with Ubuntu bodycoach2: you mean networking (with ppl you know) and you can put a linux server into AD and allow single sign on...its a PITA, but it can be done Email is a great place for Linux, because Exchange is sooo expensive I'm mean- painters, plumbers, subcontractors, pool boy's, etc lawn care body: those are great ideas 60% of businesses in USA are one person dantalizing: Yeah, been there, done that, got the mental scars But does a 3 man plumbing company need a server? no, bt maybe a godd database server? I'm not talking about a server. rop: no, but they could save $ even with a pc with ubuntu pak...exactly established small businesses aren't too concerned with cutting costs with tech. ONE person business are greatly concerned with it Good point Instead of focusing on medium-small business and high tech, maybe we should focus on the sole- proprietor types well, from my experience, those are mostly using online tools already....hosting, email, etc....so no chance to sell them free for something they already get free low-tech, so to speak "those" = small, 1 - 3 person businesses 3-10? You're right Dant....nevermind. Bad idea, I guess hi What was I thinking? sorry. Hey Elementc I would love to get those 1 man companies away from having 'joeslawnservice6@yahoo.com' as their official email address. Maybe some kind of Linux based shared email hosting? bah. sis got my vnc password. ignore random stuff i vote we continue this discussion on the mailing list and move to the next item aye i was considering setting up a projects page for everybody to contribute their experiences and work they have done with small busineses, etc. to keep track of what weve done for ppl good idea ill work on it and we can fil it in as we like ok, next topic ropetin: there are a lot of places they can use their own domain and use other hosting my wife and I use google, for instance me 2 google hosted danny@coachdanny.net goest to my yahoo account ElementC@elementCmedia.net goes to me. and sadfhasddfosdafi@elementcmedia.net goes to me, too. I need to learn to speak mail server first...lol matter of fact, anything @ elementCmedia.net ends up in my inbox. ...one more thing on the 1st topic: i posted some links in the agenda for canonical partners in case we run into somebody interested in getting the support and for a session i was at ubutntu live in about becoming a partner with canonical...in case youre interested wiat... get any swag? ok, next topic... Discuss getting involved in events for the Ubuntu Florida team (these events may help get us approved as an official team) what kinda events elementc: not much pens, pamphlets, Free Geek Central Florida project - What could we contribute? The Free Geek presentation at the Ubuntu Live conference. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387124 Software Freedom Day - At GatorLUG or anywhere else and how to get involved? http://softwarefreedomday.org/ Barcamp Orlando - What will we contribute and who will be attending form the Ubuntu Florida team? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=515771 http://barcamporlando.org/ just a few but we can open it up to others FreeGeek first? I could bundle CDs with bikes that are givin away at my godfathers meets also, the more events that we attend and contribute to the easier it will to get our team approved (which is one of our goals) dant: sure Free Geek 1st and teh room goes silent ;) bodycoach:? I'm here...looking at the barcamp page I think I can make that what are we gonna do about freegeek? I'm out of this part. no participation until after schools This next semester, the Capstone class at Valencia Community College is going to make it an official Free Geek bodycoach2: you wanna intro free geek? Okay. Easiest thing: check out http://freegeek.org and http://wiki.freegeek.org We take in older and/or broken hardware, rebuild and refurbish it, then give it out to people who need a computer, but can't afford one FreeGeekCentralFlorida.org will work a bit like the Chicago chapter, at first * Catsceo will help Till we get a centralized storage location, what I'd like to do it have a "Free Geek Field Agent" program On online database of parts that we can help out each other with, if necessary body: what does free geek install as an os The FGCF website should be up by September 10th, as it will be done by the capstone class Xubuntu on most machines, since the ones we get are usually 500 MHz - 900MHz, and Ubuntu on anything better http://freegeekchicago.org uses Xubuntu exclusively, just to keep it consistent We try to make sure machines go out with at least 256 mg, and at least a 10 gig hard drive body: does freegeek provide any support for the hw it donates? and sw? I'll brb. gotta burn me a CD of the x86 ubuntu Yes....one year support. And, if they can't fix hardware within 15 minutes, they just trade it out for another machine --- For FREE. Beat that Geek Squat! body: how does our team get involved? The Portland Oregon Free Geek original site has an incredible system I would like to help get a subtem of FGCF started here in Tampa subteam* I'd like to have a tread on the forum for people to volunteer; hardware work, support work, etc I'd like to try to set up an online support team The best part of this project: You get to keep the best of the equipment! body: maybe we could add our involement with free geek to the propsed project page? what do you think? yo qrprat11 Yes...please It's extremely easy to start this on a personal level, folks 1. Tell everyone what you're doing, and what Free Geek is about 2. Be ready for the onslaught of hardware you'll get 3. Find people who need equipment in case anybody is interested there was a presentation of free geek and bworks at ubuntu live that was very inspiring http://www.ubuntulive.com/cs/ubuntu/view/e_sess/14612 sweet body: when school starts around here I'll get in contact with the school board to get there old PCs and Macs their* Also, check out the ACCRC, the original organization: http://www.accrc.org/ They did a pretty sweet cluster computer, made out completely of donated parts if we start out as individuals, do we need to file for non-profit status? or do we fall under an umbrella organization? A "Free" 27 GHz supercomputer, so to speak cool weve got some projects to all et involed with Umbrella FGCF (freegeekcentralflorida) will have to start off that way lets all agree to add your em all to the projects page agreed We'll probably maintain a team of "Field Agents" link? What's an "em"? well, the project page is just proposed but i can have it on our wiki soon em or them hmm, k sorry im form sanford thats how we say it oh....add 'em all..... regarding SFD, gatorlug is doing a SFD here in gainesville body: thats it we're gonna help them out poningru has basically said they need all the help they can get W're moving on to Software Freedom Day now? lets get on to talking about Software Freedom Day http://softwarefreedomday.org/ and how we can get involed http://softwarefreedomday.org/helping I hope so. this is getting less fun i thought the " lets all agree to add your em all to the projects page" was a segue I hearby give an Aussi thanks to Pia Waugh! dant: yeah somethin like that anyway...i suggest y'all look for a SFD in your area and see if you can volunteer....as a representative of ubuntu-florida can anybody into SFD and intro ideas for it http://softwarefreedomday.org/ http://softwarefreedomday.org/about sorry last year gatorlug handed out Linux in front of BooksAMillion dant: whats going on with gatorllug and SFD here taking a nap err took a nap this year, poningru says we're doing an installfest poningru: hey yeah last year it was basically the same I would like to encourage you guys to do the same though do something... anything I talk up SFD mostly be emphasizing the idea of support Free Speech with it And how Software Freedom and Free Speech go together I'll put up banners/fliers around my 'hood would sfd be a place(s) for a meet up? pak33m: well it would be more a place to showcase free software should we setup an ubuntu florida tent! pon: well, at least we'd meet up by being there together http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/northamerica/FL nobody listed in florida :( should we add SFD to our proposed project page? yes Aye dant:we should add us to that page i'm editing now :) dant: awesome!! dantalizing: no dude it goes USA then FL ok, unless anybody has anymore about SFD lets move on to talk about barcamp this doesnt exist either: http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/america/USA/FL/Gainesville Maybe, one of us can try to contact Pia about what we can do where it was last year poningru: i'll leave it to you or jli to update Ah! We could set up something at local community colleges? Barcamp it is http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/northamerica/FL/Gainesville wtf soo weird can we get a show of hands for people that plan on attending barcamp and what your plans are there? * Catsceo shows half a hand * dantalizing will talk about openmoko depending on my grades and how may absences I've had at school, I may go I've decided I'll try to go, and discuss Free Geek i'll be there but acting as the room wallflower ha unfortunately I cannot come to orlando too far away :( I live about 12 minutes away i work about 1 mile from the place gotta run yall *** dantalizing is now known as dantalizing_afk I don't work right now (bowing head in disgrace)...looking for a part-time job A+ Certi...2006 Objectives! are you guys SURE that a minor (me) will be able to attend? I watched the videos of past barcamps and it looked like scantily clad women, beer, and geeks partying so, its from 1 pm - 10 pm? whos gonna go when? Catsceo: not sure but we can find out Did this place used to be "Chapters" used bookstore in College Park?? I don't want to drag my mom to Orlando just to be thrown out because I wasn't drinking age :( Catsceo: i think it would be all ages Catsceo: at least Mom could have adrink eek! anybody else presenting there, etc? I'm going to register to present would we all agree to add barcamp to the proposed project page? YES ok, lets move on to the next topic aye Translate the message provided by the Ubuntu Live conference and discuss how it can help the Ubuntu Florida team in achieving the goals it has set forth "Translate"? sorry, wifi died. I'm outa here. post the minutes when done. (please) What's the message, and what language was it originally in? Ya Gavaroo Pa-ruski Czech maybe? :P the message was how how to get teams together oooh sorry im fading (long day at the beach) Teams across USA? yes How does the European teams work? the message was also about how to advocate the use of ubuntu T-Shirts! in business, technical, etc. Sticker for cars...like the Apple logo sticker no t-shirts - i wish got lots of stickers * Catsceo ants a sticker :< leads into the next topic wants*.... Discuss the summary of the Ubuntu US Teams meeting on July 28 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USTeams/Minutes/ July28Formal, how to apply the ideas dicsussed into the Ubuntu Florida team and the recent US Teams activity to get needed state LoCo teams started My girlfriend wears an Ubuntu thong: http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695 f you go to that link there were topics discussed that we can use for our team body: nice! body: oh my i gotta get the baby bib for the baby that is body: pix plz (j/k :P ) we discussed recruitment at LUGs, schools, etc I'm going to get an Ubuntu Golf Shirt, as soon as I get a job, that is (HINT, HINT) :D hey bordy heyo. yoyoyo bordy wow, 20 nicks Man...that Bordy guy is such a putz///// OH! Hey bordy heyo danny :-P bordy: you showed jst when things were fading We're on the topic of Ubuntu thongs at least i am Sorry I missed it all, got stupid company open over not open so many non-floridians in here throwin off our numbers! ;) so, i think that we should move to the last topic which is to here it for new members - we have a few We could give out condoms with Ubuntu disks, like Free Geek Vancouver does: http:// freegeekvancouver.org/en/v/sfu/ and theyre not no the non-floridians me me me me!!! Catsceo: go hey bodycoach2 I may need your help soon To quote John Kerry, "Help is on the way." I'm going to get incontact with the school board around here to get there old computers (I already said this, I know) "Bonesmen are behind you!" and redistribute in the poor areas Cat....let me know if you do catsceo: think they'll give em up? If they do, that bodes well for the rest of the states school boards they will want data destruction assurance: http://freegeekvancouver.org/en/data_destruction Catsceo: there is dignity project here in g'ville that does something similar body: I will, I was hoping to do it with FGCF bordy: I hope so Most schools put there stuff on http://publicsurplus.com hey catsceo just realized you arent picked up by any sub teams yet ;) * bordy cackles Catsceo: yr choice Marketing Wiki Maintenance Education and New User Support Meeting Team hmm coughmeetingteamcough bordy, my irc nick needs to change or new team? in the roster wiki would a new team be in order tho? bodycoach2: go ahead and change it :-P Catsceo: its open Opps....I think I deleted it all of it body: what team are you on? pretty much all of them I was doing it all myself til we added some teams body, not bordy :P but pak33m took over a lot of the burden for me bordy: ah thanks I heart me some pak33m Not sure. I was on the University of GA's mens gymnastics team in the 80's Looks like I'm going to have to learn how to edit a wiki would a team thats goal was to basically JSUT work with FGCF and Ubuntu-florida be a good idea? just*