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<thelinuxer> ok lets start
<Sensiva> fawzy ya fawzy, khot gam3et el qahera el sherreer :D
<thelinuxer> bahaa2008: Pronco osama_gma mgamal MFawzy EgyParadox d4de kim0 the meeting has started
<MFawzy> Sensiva: lol, how are u ya 3amo ?
<thelinuxer> ok ya shabab
<d4de> thelinuxer, what meeting?
<thelinuxer> wait for a sec
<Sensiva> MFawzy meya meya bro el 7amdolellah :)
<thelinuxer> d4de: rn\t u following the mailing list ?
<mgamal> d4de: we have an IRC meeting scheduled today
<Sensiva> d4de https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/Meetings/Agendas/2010-07-16
<d4de> thelinuxer, yes I'm following the mlist
<Pronco> I am around.
<osama_gma> sensiva: thanks I was going to ask about the agenda :D
<thelinuxer> 7ad faker ma3lesh ana lesa me3'ayar el alaptop
<Sensiva> osama_gma ;)
<thelinuxer> we feeh 7agat lesa mesh zabet-ha
<osama_gma> e7m de fadya :D
<Sensiva> osama_gma item wa7da, the road map
<osama_gma> ya :)
<osama_gma> I noticed
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<osama_gma> ping all?
<thelinuxer> gamel keda
<d4de> PONG
<thelinuxer> as u can see the meeting agenda is in the topic
<thelinuxer> so please have a quick look
<thelinuxer> we are here today to discuss the roadmap section in our approval application
<EgyParadox> tamam
<thelinuxer> the approval application can be found here
<thelinuxer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/ApprovalApplication
<thelinuxer> It's just a draft
<thelinuxer> we should refine it
<Sensiva> Can we add our contributions in the last EGLUG event?
<thelinuxer> and we have these ideas here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/IdeaPool
<thelinuxer> of course\
<thelinuxer> sorry i forgot to write ur name fel EGLUG contributions sections
<Sensiva> its ok :D
<thelinuxer> bas this is the experience section
<Sensiva> han7ot el youtube channel wel beta website?
<EgyParadox> thelinuxer:Momken tekteb waza3na kam cd felevent, kam nas 7adaret , etc
<thelinuxer> we don't have a problem with this section
<EgyParadox> under lucid lynx release party
<thelinuxer> please guys
<thelinuxer> the important section now is the roadmap
<EgyParadox> bekhestar
<Sensiva> ok
<EgyParadox> ok
<thelinuxer> the experience can be refined easily
<thelinuxer> because it's something that we did
<thelinuxer> we need to set a plan
<thelinuxer> we need to draw this roadmap
<thelinuxer> and say who will do what
<thelinuxer> instead on writing random points
<mgamal> thelinuxer: is Anas Emad here?
<thelinuxer> no he is not
<thelinuxer> i just knew that his grandfather passed away
<mgamal> ah
<thelinuxer> did u need something from him ?
<mgamal> thelinuxer: he suggested several ideas from the ideas pool and his feedback would've definitely been beneficial
<thelinuxer> of course bas 7ane3mel eih zoroof
<Sensiva> tayeb what do we need for the roadmap?
<thelinuxer> here is an example from the tunisian team page
<thelinuxer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/ApprovalApplication/
<thelinuxer> we don\t need it to be that complicated
<thelinuxer> bas we have a couple of stuff
<thelinuxer> mentioned in the ideapool
<thelinuxer> we can write these
<thelinuxer> we need to agree what to write in the application
<EgyParadox> fee sample lelapplication
<thelinuxer> because we will be asked about what we did when we are asked for the reapproval
<thelinuxer> el sample 3ebara 3an title
<thelinuxer> titles*
<thelinuxer> document feeha sections
<thelinuxer> wel sections deh mawgooda fel page beta3etna
<thelinuxer> beside the ideas in the idea pool
<thelinuxer> we have other leads for events
<thelinuxer> for instance i was contacted by a community group in ain shams
<thelinuxer> for an event next month
<thelinuxer> this is in the very near future, should we include it as a part of the roadmap ?
<EgyParadox> elgroup esmo eh?
<thelinuxer> SYNC
<EgyParadox> mesh 3aref howa dah sa7bi eli 2ali 3aleh wala la2
<thelinuxer> they wanted sessions about OpenSource in general and Qt SDK
<mgamal> thelinuxer: I think it should, but provided we have volunteers ready for the event
<thelinuxer> ok cool
<thelinuxer> enta eih el a7'bar ;) ?
<thelinuxer> they just need presenters
<thelinuxer> a couple of speakers will do
<thelinuxer> Sensiva: we3nta kaman eih a7'barak ?
<EgyParadox> enta shayef elroadmap dee mesh kefaya?
<EgyParadox> elworkshop dee
<mgamal> thelinuxer: I am not available in August
<Sensiva> thelinuxer bekhsoos eh bezabt bezabt?
<thelinuxer> tedy session 3an el opensource fe ain shams
<thelinuxer> handaset ain shams
<Sensiva> no problem
<thelinuxer> EgyParadox: mesh fahmak ? a single event can't be a roadmap
<thelinuxer> cool
<EgyParadox> tayeb
<mgamal> EgyParadox: It can be a part of the roadmap
<EgyParadox> tamam
<thelinuxer> so I will add this and me and sensiva will be responsible for this event
<d4de> I think that what you really want to show is the impact of the team itself on the local Unix community. Since this team is fairly fresh and new, I suggest that you put more effort into helping more around, doing more charitable work, help the local LUG, convert more people from Windowism to Unixism, etc. A roadmap is good, it keeps your general goals clear and focused, and it should say how you are going to increase that impact upon the local community,
<d4de> how would you think you gonna increase Linux popularity in this area of the world etc..
<d4de> these are the kind of things that should be put into a roadmap
<d4de> statistics are also good to be there, maybe local surveys as well helps a lot
<thelinuxer> d4de: r u absolutely right
<thelinuxer> sorry guys brb
<osama_gma> Sorry guys, I have to leave to work on my grad project. I will check the chat log later isA ..
<osama_gma> salam
<Sensiva> salam osama_gma
<d4de> I also think that you should distribute surveys upon normal immortal users and see what turns them off from Linux/Ubuntu and try to come up with a solution or a set of suggestions and send them to the Ubuntu team
<mgamal> good luck osama_gma
<MFawzy> d4de : exactly, I think a roadmap has to be more general than just some upcoming events :)
<d4de> and make your argument based upon that Egypt is the largest consumer market in the world, so their opinion matters.
<EgyParadox> fakart ana mawdoo3 elsurveys dah bardo
<mgamal> d4de: we had a sort of a historical problem with getting feedback
<mgamal> d4de: I believe thelinuxer can elborate on that
<Sensiva> MFawzy did someone collect the reg forms and feedback forms in the last event?
<d4de> sure ... thelinuxer?
<MFawzy> ah, btw, the feedback from the CUFE summer training is with me now :) ... I got it two days ago :)
<mgamal> MFawzy: great
<Sensiva> great, can you do statistics? walla akhodhom mennak?
<Sensiva> MFawzy ^^
<MFawzy> Sensiva: 3alafekra el trainers el tanyeen kano by2olo en 2 pages for a feedback form is a bit long ;)
<MFawzy> Sensiva: sure hata5odhom :D
<d4de> Sensiva, no chi-square kind of thing, just simple population and distribution statistics that can be represented in clear simple English
<Sensiva> MFawzy el feedback form kanet single page :|
<MFawzy> Sensiva: what ? :S
<MFawzy> Sensiva: let me check :D
<Sensiva> d4de have you seen them?
<thelinuxer> back
<d4de> Guys how the feedback forms questions look like? are they multible choices, yes/no kind of questions?
<d4de> I hope they let the user represent his own thoughts in words
<Sensiva> d4de yeah, you might find their links in the mailing list
<Sensiva> yeah and empty spaces for extra info
<d4de> good
<EgyParadox> momken ne3mel outline lel7agat eli 7ane3melha felroadmap,
<thelinuxer> ok i want to say something
<EgyParadox> we b3den nekhosh fee tafaseel
<MFawzy> ah btw, Sensiva how did u send the feedback form to the CECE ??
<thelinuxer> we should do these surveys we kol 7aga
<Sensiva> MFawzy I handed them by email to thelinuxer
<MFawzy> it has problems in printing :)
<thelinuxer> bas we don't have enough man power and not enough time
<MFawzy> in what format ?
<thelinuxer> Sensiva: u sent them to the mailing list
<Sensiva> MFawzy odt
<thelinuxer> at least for now
<Sensiva> thelinuxer yeah
<MFawzy> :S Sensiva not all ppl are free as u are :D
<thelinuxer> there is a council meeting on the 20th
<MFawzy> pdf would be better for next times ;)
<thelinuxer> i want them to have a look on our application
<thelinuxer> we might be granted approval
<MFawzy> thelinuxer: hanel7a2 ?
<thelinuxer> or they will guide us to the right way
<thelinuxer> yes 7anel7a2
<Sensiva> MFawzy sure thing, I sent them to thelinuxer in odt format in case you guys wanted to change it, welli hayetba3hom ye3mellohom export pdf
<thelinuxer> we just need to focus and write these few lines
<Sensiva> thelinuxer ana le7ad delwa2ti mesh 3aref eeh el matloob bezabt
<Sensiva> kelmet roadmap di aslaha say7a shwoaya 3andi
<thelinuxer> ok let me make it clear
<thelinuxer> the council wants to make sure that we have somewhere to go
<Sensiva> d4de check them in here, your feedback is much appreciated http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B5dvwjei_MSZM2VkMzZlYTAtMmU0My00ZmM4LTliNWYtZmZjOWE3YWVmYjFk&hl=en&authkey=CK6f9eoM
<thelinuxer> 3ashan yeb2a esmena running team begad
<thelinuxer> and that we aren't doing random stuff
<Sensiva> so its about team aims and targets?
<thelinuxer> yes, and expected events
<thelinuxer> ideas
<thelinuxer> ..etc
<Sensiva> great
<thelinuxer> for instance our friend Mohamed Darweesh
<thelinuxer> said he will prepare a standup comedy show for our next event
<thelinuxer> that's part of the roadmap
<thelinuxer> we are using art 3ashan ne publicize ubuntu
<EgyParadox> standup comedy?
<Sensiva> and I have two ideas
<thelinuxer> for instance i ask a friend to create a video ad for our group
<thelinuxer> but he didn't reply yet
<thelinuxer> dah momken yekoon bardo item fel roadmap bas ana mesh damno :)
<Sensiva> we might create two squads
<thelinuxer> lagna far3eya tanbathek menha lagna :D
<Sensiva> Media Distributors Squad, maktob asamehom we nemarhom fe page fel wiki, linked with a button in the front page "Get Ubuntu"
<Sensiva> Installers and Supporters Squad same as above for installing and technical support for Ubuntu distros only
<thelinuxer> that's bardo a gr8
<thelinuxer> who support this idea ?
<Sensiva> they may go anywhere at anytime to deliver media and install or fix installations
<mgamal> thelinuxer: you got a volunteer for this one
<EgyParadox> howa 7aye3mel elstandup comedy dah ezay?
<thelinuxer> ok cool
<EgyParadox> el7agat dee mesh ay 7ad ye3melha
<thelinuxer> EgyParadox: we aren't discussing this point now
<EgyParadox> tayeb
<thelinuxer> i was just mentioning it as an example
<thelinuxer> who else supports Sensiva's idea ?
<MFawzy> Sensiva: didn't get it :D
<MFawzy> mesh fahem, :) .... maho el member list already has "provide free support" column :D
<Sensiva> MFawzy hane3mel page fel wiki , feha list of members who can deliver installation media le ay 7ad fe ay 7etta gambo
<thelinuxer> the member list is pretty old
<thelinuxer> and lots of these members aren't active anymore
<MFawzy> also eglug already have sth like this :) it is nice
<MFawzy> about the distributer issue :)
<Sensiva> MFawzy la2 dool supporters ya3ni malzomeen bel task di, megahez nafso we mawa3ed shoghlo 3ala haza el asas, ay 7ad yettesel beeh yero7loh ye3mello installation/support aw yeddelo CD/DVDs
<Sensiva> MFawzy lel asaf el shaded ana bygeli calls keter men EGLUG we byeshtekoli en el nemar ma7addesh byrod 3aleha
<MFawzy> http://eglug.org/getlinux
<thelinuxer> tayeb bos ya Sensiva
<thelinuxer> we should write this as a very future item
<Sensiva> ok
<thelinuxer> that we want to support user personally mesh bas IRC we mailing list
<MFawzy> Sensiva: I can provide CDs in both Nasr city and Cairo University area :) .... but not support :)
<thelinuxer> Sensiva: about that company
<thelinuxer> what was it's name ?
<Sensiva> fixit solyoooshanZz
<MFawzy> mmmmmmm, I also think it will be nice if we activated our FB page, u can just publish the updates from OMGubuntu
<thelinuxer> no no
<thelinuxer> el nas ely 3ayzeen support
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: bahaa2008 is our media manager now :D
<thelinuxer> u can discuss this with him
<MFawzy> gr8 :)
<MFawzy> I'll tell him my ideas about it ;)
<Sensiva> thelinuxer which company mesh fahmak
<thelinuxer> sawany
<thelinuxer> that email from Stephan Hermann
<thelinuxer> it was about supporting a company, right ?
<Sensiva> yeah his email was like that in the first time
<Sensiva> but we can't be sure, when Mahmoud reply kollo hayban
<thelinuxer> tayeb the guys here don't know what we are talking about
<thelinuxer> do u want to discuss it ? wala wait for the reply
<Sensiva> wait for the reply
<thelinuxer> so .. we won't mention it in the roadmap ba2a cool
<thelinuxer> anyone want to discuss anything else before checking the ideapool list ?
<Sensiva> yeah, its a small thingy, not a big bang ya3ni
<EgyParadox> la2
<thelinuxer> ok
<thelinuxer> i guess we should all open the ideapool page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EgyptTeam/IdeaPool
<thelinuxer> Engaging LVAD
<thelinuxer> that's the first item
<thelinuxer> mgamal: that's ur idea can u talk about it
<EgyParadox> haha
<thelinuxer> lol
<EgyParadox> lesa bet2oool mgamal
<thelinuxer> fe3lan
<thelinuxer> tayeb we will move to the next thing until he comes back
<thelinuxer> Resala
<thelinuxer> I guess we all know what Resala is, right ?
<EgyParadox> ahh
<MFawzy> adam 3omar 3arefha neb2a kollena 3arfenha :D
<thelinuxer> 3ashan agnaby ya3ny ;) ?
<EgyParadox> MFawzy:leh bet2ool kea?
<Sensiva> :D
<EgyParadox> agnaby eh bas
<MFawzy> hhhh
<thelinuxer> lets focus
<MFawzy> k
<thelinuxer> the idea is to try and use resala training center and their publicity in promoting opensource and our group
<thelinuxer> they give almost free of charge crouse
<thelinuxer> courses*
<thelinuxer> i will try to get a deal with
<thelinuxer> we will create the courses\
<MFawzy> I Looooved this idea btw :)
<thelinuxer> and bring the tutors
<Sensiva> me too
<thelinuxer> and they just have to publicize it
<thelinuxer> cool then
<MFawzy> I have an almost ready course
<thelinuxer> this one is entering the roadmap :D
<Sensiva> if you guys gonna mention this in the road map , please include resala weblinks
<EgyParadox> ana mesh 7ab2a fee masr
<EgyParadox> ana momken 2a3mel materials
<EgyParadox> welnas tepresent
<thelinuxer> Sensiva: tab3an
<MFawzy> it was targeting engineering students bas ma3a ba3d el ta3deel hayeb2a ready for anyone :D
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: gameel geddna
<thelinuxer> anything else about this idea ?
<thelinuxer> tayeb moving on
<thelinuxer> the next idea was translating Ubuntu manual to Arabic
<Sensiva> howa e7na han7ot events fel roadmap leeh? mesh ettafa2na han7ot guidlines bas?
<EgyParadox> ayw
<EgyParadox> a
<EgyParadox> ana 3agbani elfekra deeh
<thelinuxer> yes guidelines and future events
<thelinuxer> events in near future
<thelinuxer> maslan we agreed to add the SYNC event in the roadmap
<Sensiva> tayeb yenfa3 yeb2a guidelines wel events are as example to those guidelines?
<thelinuxer> hmmm
<Sensiva> ya3ni masalan spread ubuntu
<thelinuxer> momken
<Sensiva> sub point spread ubuntu in univ (SYNC)
<thelinuxer> sa7 keda
<Sensiva> sub point spread ubuntu in education centers (resala)
<thelinuxer> i guess that's what we will do
<thelinuxer> Sensiva: eih a7'barak fel wiki syntax ? :D
<Sensiva> enta 3amalt install lel plugin?
<thelinuxer> plugin eih ?
<Sensiva> what you mesh3aref eh what you get di
<thelinuxer> ah lol
<thelinuxer> bas dah 3ala el website
<thelinuxer> mesh el wiki pages
<thelinuxer> bas lesa mshta3'alsh
<thelinuxer> anyway mesh moshkela i like ur idea
<thelinuxer> and i will sub-categorize them 3ashan yeb2o clear isA
<thelinuxer> can we move the ubuntu manual translation now ?
<thelinuxer> to the*
<EgyParadox> aywa
<Sensiva> ok
<EgyParadox> besro3a
<EgyParadox> 3ashan khaltee lesa gaya mesafar
<EgyParadox> we 3ayez 2a3od ma3aha
<thelinuxer> lol
<thelinuxer> loool
* Sensiva embraces EgyParadox
<thelinuxer> this should be in the logs man! :D
<Sensiva> you are the cutest
<EgyParadox> eb2a emsa7
<thelinuxer> ma3aleena
<thelinuxer> now we are in terrible need for translators
<thelinuxer> and the only active translator in our group was this Anass Ahmed
<thelinuxer> not Anas Emad
<thelinuxer> i guess he is a shy guy
<thelinuxer> he never introduced himself
<Sensiva> tayeb howa el manual feen bezabt?
<thelinuxer> i sent him an email ba3zemo 3ala el meeting we bardo magash we mafeesh response
<thelinuxer> ubuntu-manual.org
<Sensiva> walla asdoko 3ala el ubuntu-docs?
<Sensiva> ok
<Sensiva> tayeb yenfa3 ne3mel e7na ketab taba3na walla malosh lazma?
<thelinuxer> this is a really good book for beginners and normal users
<thelinuxer> maloosh lazma
<Sensiva> I was thinking of making a book for egyptians bezabt
<thelinuxer> a7san nelem nafsena ma3a project kebeer
<Sensiva> بوابة الدخول لعالم أوبونتو
<Sensiva> mashi
<thelinuxer> i guess that's what the book is about
<thelinuxer> howa users book keda keda
<thelinuxer> bas el moshkela fel resources delwa2ty
<Sensiva> resources eh?
<Sensiva> printout?
<EgyParadox> boss
<thelinuxer> no translators
<EgyParadox> ana 7amshee
<EgyParadox> ana ta3ban
<EgyParadox> we bakharaf
<thelinuxer> EgyParadox: bel salama ya basha
<thelinuxer> bahaa2008: i heard ur a gr8 translator
<MFawzy> EgyParadox: bye
<EgyParadox> salam
<bahaa2008> thelinuxer, d3aya mo3'reda
<thelinuxer> bahaa2008: loooool
<Sensiva> I can translate as well, bas abos 3al ketab bassa keda
<thelinuxer> etla3 men dool
<thelinuxer> ana 3ayez 7ad adabeso fel mawdoo3
<Sensiva> wa7ed bas?
<Sensiva> sa3b awi
<thelinuxer> la2 tab3an mesh wa7ed
<thelinuxer> bas 3ayzeen nas teb2a gahza awel manlem team nebtedy
<MFawzy> ya ged3an, plz don't call the terminal el tarafeya :)
<MFawzy> I hate this
<Sensiva> lol
<Sensiva> MFawzy di esmaha el tarafeya men ayam el main frames
<bahaa2008> MFawzy, we will call it سطر الاومر :p
<thelinuxer> :(
<Sensiva> ana sa3at basammeha nafezet sotor el awamer
<MFawzy> Sensiva: bahaa2008 so ?
<thelinuxer> so do we have volunteers for this ?
<thelinuxer> 2 Sensiva and bahaa2008 ?
<MFawzy> this terminology is not good for new ppl
<Sensiva> I confirm
<thelinuxer> skip that terminology talk ya man
<thelinuxer> now is not the time for it
<MFawzy> srry
<mgamal> guys
<mgamal> it looks like I was disconnected
<mgamal> I was lost after the engaging LVAD part
<bahaa2008> Sensiva, i'm kidding with MFawzy
<Sensiva> bahaa2008 :D
<thelinuxer> mgamal: don't worry
<thelinuxer> mgamal: we will get back to this point later isA
<thelinuxer> tayeb bahaa2008 r u in or not ?\
<mgamal> so can someone tell me a little about what I missed
<thelinuxer> mgamal: we are discussing the ubuntu manual translation now
<thelinuxer> we discussed the resala point and i will contact resala, and MFawzy will create the course material for our first course
<Sensiva> mgamal in brief hanekteb fel roadmap spreading ubuntu in variety of sectors, universities, education centers and right now we are discussing who will volunteer in translating the manual
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<Sensiva> mgamal is disconnected already
<mgamal> I am here
<Extend> too late but i just checked my email and saw your email thelinuxer
* Sensiva howls at Extend
<thelinuxer> Extend: ahlan ya man
<Sensiva> welcome back \\`olF
<Extend> Sensiva, :*
<Extend> ahlan ahmed
<Sensiva> khaddamak Mohamed mesh Ahmed
<Sensiva> lol'
<Extend> sorry *
<thelinuxer> Extend: check the EgyptTeam/ApprovalApplication and EgyptTeam/IdeaPool page
<thelinuxer> ok i guess bahaa2008 doesn't want to translate the book
<MFawzy> Extend: welcome :)
<thelinuxer> so we have only one resource for it now
<thelinuxer> and we will need to search for more
<thelinuxer> but it's a good point that we should put in the roadmap
<Sensiva> thelinuxer we might send a call for volunteers in the mailing list
<thelinuxer> and also we can get help from other arabic communities
<Sensiva> and FB page as well
<thelinuxer> send a call for volunteers fe kol 7etta :D
<Sensiva> qeshta
<thelinuxer> gameel
<thelinuxer> lets move to the next point
<Sensiva> la2 estanna
<thelinuxer> what ?
<Sensiva> el translators haytranslato feen?
<Sensiva> fee website yo7otto feeh el translations?
<thelinuxer> bos ana lesa bafta7 el website 3ashan ashoof dah :D
<thelinuxer> bas this can wait
<thelinuxer> zay ma2olna mesh lazem ne2ool kol el details
<Sensiva> http://ubuntu-manual.org/getinvolved/translators
<Sensiva> ok ok
<Sensiva> am done kedas
<thelinuxer> ok gameel
<thelinuxer> next point LVAD , mgamal can u take it from here ?
<mgamal> I don't know if my messages has reached the chat room
<thelinuxer> yes
<thelinuxer> i received them
<thelinuxer> and i guess everyone
<Sensiva> mgamal what was the last line?
<mgamal> but Wazery and I know some people who have been involved with P4Y
<thelinuxer> ah sorry
<mgamal> anyway
<mgamal> I believe the next step is to devise the contents for courses and contact P4Y members
<thelinuxer> P4Y = programming for youth ?
<mgamal> yes
<mgamal> we should take a closer look at the P4Y activities
<mgamal> see where we could fit in
<mgamal> devise some tangible contents
<mgamal> and then contact the P4Y people with something solid in hand
<mgamal> ??
<thelinuxer> ok
<thelinuxer> bas mesh lazem solid awi
<thelinuxer> we can try to find what they need
<thelinuxer> and try to fill that gap
<thelinuxer> bas what's more important to me now
<thelinuxer> is that u and wazery will do the communication stuff
<thelinuxer> and of course u can use the same course MFawzy will create for resala
<thelinuxer> or something similar to it
<thelinuxer> right ?
<mgamal> well
<mgamal> my idea was a more programming-oriented course
<mgamal> while using ubuntu as a dev. platform
<mgamal> but perhaps we can use the resala course contents to get the P4Y people themselves to be familiar with ubuntu
<thelinuxer> gameel geddan
<thelinuxer> keda keda it's ur responsibility
<thelinuxer> :)
<Sensiva> ana ma3rafsh 7aga 3an P4Y, bas tehaya2li ya3ni , sa3b neddehom programing 3ala platform maye3rafohash
<mgamal> lol
<mgamal> ok
<thelinuxer> Sensiva: akeed bas momken yekoon el platform bedayat el course
<mgamal> I'll try to talk to the people I know
<mgamal> maybe ping Wazery as well
<Extend> gama3
<Sensiva> law eddenahom courses 3an ubuntu yeb2a masla7a bardo
<Extend> law ay gam3ia leha ay nashat fe eskndria
<thelinuxer> gameel ento el etneen lebesto fel mawdoo3 7'alas
<mgamal> Sensiva: the idea is to teach youth to program on Ubuntu
<Extend> ana moshkelti eni mesh fadi a organize ay 7aga lel2asaf
<Extend> bs law feeh course ana momken azabat
* Extend slaps bahaa2008
<mgamal> lol @ Extend
<thelinuxer> lol
<Extend> te3ebt walahe
<Extend> ana mash3;ol be ghabawa
<Sensiva> :D
<mgamal> guys
<Extend> we za3lan awi we nafsety ta3bana eny mesh ba3mel ai activity
<Sensiva> rabena ye3enak
<mgamal> before we move on from this point
<Extend> i wish i was at cairo with u guys
<mgamal> I am not available in Egypt from August until Eid
<Sensiva> Extend leek yom ya basha, kollo fe wa2to :D
<Extend> ISA
<thelinuxer> mgamal: mafeesh moshkela
<mgamal> so can you suggest a time frame for engaging with LVAD
<thelinuxer> coordinate ma3a wazery ba2a
<thelinuxer> i guess we will all stop working fe ramadan keda keda
<thelinuxer> el wa2t beyeb2a daya2
<Sensiva> mgamal , thelinuxer asdo el point di turnkey, el idea ma3ak, zabbat ma3a wazeery we sallemna 3al gahez
<Sensiva> lol
<mgamal> lol
<mgamal> ok
<thelinuxer> Sensiva: fahamny enta
<Sensiva> melabbesaty 3azeem enta ya maw
<Sensiva> lol
<thelinuxer> looooool howa ana doory eih 3'eer keda :D
<thelinuxer> ok, next
<Extend> hehe
<Sensiva> el magazine
<thelinuxer> belzabt
<thelinuxer> unfortunately Anas isn't and Wazery isn't here
<thelinuxer> the main thing is that we wanted a magazine
<Extend> a small one
<Sensiva> e-magazine?
<thelinuxer> staff picked articles from our blogs (2al ya3ny 3andena )
<Extend> as a start would be okay
<thelinuxer> Extend: exactly
<Extend> we can add the posts from our blogs
<thelinuxer> we want a few pages
<Extend> sub7an allah
<Extend> :D
<Extend> toulan w share the same thoughts :D
<thelinuxer> :D twins ya man
<Extend> ana momken a7adar makal aw etnen
<Extend> thelinuxer, aiwa tab3an twins :D
<Extend> yeah yeah
<Extend> anyway
<thelinuxer> Extend: ya reet
<Sensiva> and love fills the air
<Sensiva> \o/
<thelinuxer> lol
<Extend> im very interested fe mawdo3 el magazine da
<Extend> lol @ love
<thelinuxer> wazery and Anas was supposed in doing the art work
<Extend> bs al organizing brdo mesh 3alaia :P
<thelinuxer> but they aren't here
<Sensiva> tab 7ad yerasseni, e-magazine walla paper magazine
<Extend> gama3a mawdo3 el team reporting mohem
<thelinuxer> e-mag @ first
<Extend> e-magazine ya saudi
<Extend> paper sa3b awey
<Sensiva> mashi
<Extend> dah ubuntu mesh bet3mel paper magazine
<thelinuxer> may be we will get it printed law ba2a 3andena feloos keteer fa7t
<Extend> e-magazine to be released as a pdf file teb2a mazika
<thelinuxer> gameel
<Sensiva> tab faydeto eh ma7na 3andena website fady, termi feeh el bareza betren echo
<Sensiva> I mean , manemla el portal el awel
<thelinuxer> el mafrood el mag deh 7agat men el portal aslan
<thelinuxer> 7agat metna2eya lel nas ya3ny
<Extend> we need the website ubuntu-eg
<Sensiva> fekhemtos
<thelinuxer> mesh fahem ?
<thelinuxer> Extend: mesh fahem ?
<Extend> maho e7na nezabat al aggregator
<Extend> toulan
<Extend> i mean nen2el el beta site to the url
<Extend> ubunt8u-eg.org
<Extend> we need to get this even before the approval
<thelinuxer> yes bas we need to get approved first to get control over the domain
<Sensiva> hmm
<Extend> :'(((((
<MFawzy> guys will it be in arabic or english ??
<Sensiva> I say both
<Extend> MFawzy, good question
<thelinuxer> both is good
<Sensiva> bas tetketeb 3arabi el awel then tettargem english
<Sensiva> el arabic aham
<thelinuxer> bardo mewafe2
<MFawzy> well , about arabic content ana ma3rafoosh :D .... and Linuxplus already exists why not to help 'em ??
<thelinuxer> 3ashan we are a local team after all
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: help them ezay ?
<MFawzy> write with them :D
<MFawzy> they wanted arabic writers
<Sensiva> tehaya2li nebtedi 7aga benafsena a7san, le7ad delwa2ti most of our activities barshata 3ala 7ad
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: do they have a free online magazine ?
<MFawzy> yes
<thelinuxer> feen el link ?
<MFawzy> it is downloaded in pdf
<MFawzy> hageebo aho :D
<thelinuxer> tayeb i guess keda keda we can write both ideas in the roadmap
<thelinuxer> we will create our own mag
<thelinuxer> and help other arabic magazines ?
<thelinuxer> agree ?
<MFawzy> http://foxoman.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/%D9%85%D8%AC%D9%84%D8%A9-ubuntu-plus-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%AF%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AB%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A/
<Sensiva> tayeb will you mention how to distribute this mag?
<thelinuxer> yes i will say it's a pdf mag
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: ubuntu plus ya fawzy mesh linux plus, tab3an 3arefha
<MFawzy> aaaaaaaaaaaaaah
<MFawzy> e7m e7m
<MFawzy> who said "linux plus" ??
<MFawzy> :D
<MFawzy> srrrry
<Sensiva> lol
<MFawzy> la2 bgd far2 el sama ...
<MFawzy> :D
<thelinuxer> lol
<MFawzy> this is why ur answers were strange :D
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: yes :)
<MFawzy> Ubuntu+ has only two issues so far :D
<thelinuxer> and the 2nd is the last fel3'aleb
<MFawzy> so there will be no much "parachata" :D
<Sensiva> :D:D
<MFawzy> thelinuxer: the "last" wala the "latest" ??
<thelinuxer> last
<MFawzy> why ?
<thelinuxer> ok i guess i won't mention ubuntu plus at all ba2a :D
<MFawzy> they mentioned it ?
<thelinuxer> that's what the maintainer said
<thelinuxer> yes
<MFawzy> ay
<MFawzy> tab nice to know :)
<MFawzy> so we will not be "reinventing the wheel" .. we will be fixing it :D
<thelinuxer> tayeb we all agree on this, i will mention wazery and anas (tadbees) , and will be creating our own mag
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: lol
<thelinuxer> can we move to the next point ?
<Sensiva> ok
<thelinuxer> podcast
* Sensiva doesn't know what is a podcast
<thelinuxer> feed of audio files
<thelinuxer> zay mat2ool barnameg radio
<thelinuxer> the idea is to have something like a talk show
<thelinuxer> where we geeks decide to talk about a certain topic
<thelinuxer> new technology
<thelinuxer> new packages ..etc
<Sensiva> ahaa, byetseme3 fe banshee or rhythmbox we keda?
<thelinuxer> aiwa belzabt
<mgamal> something like that
<mgamal> http://www.lugradio.org/
<MFawzy> aw online :D
<thelinuxer> fa we will have fun gathering @ some place and record our talks
<thelinuxer> the project just needs a maintainer
<thelinuxer> someone to organize it
<thelinuxer> record
<thelinuxer> and upload
<thelinuxer> ..etc
<MFawzy> this will be reallllllllllllly hard btw
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: yabny eih el e7bat dah :D
<Sensiva> lol
<MFawzy> script writing is much harder than sh :P
<thelinuxer> lool
<thelinuxer> tab 2ool hard leeh ..
<MFawzy> (04:39:23 PM) MFawzy: script writing is much harder than sh :P
<Sensiva> e7na benet2abel bel3afya, we aghlab el wa2t mesh fadyeen
<Sensiva> wel a3da fe beanos kharab byoot
<thelinuxer> :)
<Sensiva> we lesa ma3amalnash eshterakat el sawy
<MFawzy> podcast = script + palin voices + gathering + others :D
<thelinuxer> i can get us a studio law deh el moshkela
<mgamal> speaking of sawy
<MFawzy> I think this can wait a bit :)
<mgamal> we should check that old Linux lab
<mgamal> maybe we can use it
<mgamal> maybe we can record in it as well
<MFawzy> ya ged3an some mobiles do great work :D
<mgamal> no
<thelinuxer> mgamal: ok i will try to ask next
<MFawzy> a computer with a fair mic works as well :D
<thelinuxer> time i pass by
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: tab eih el moshkela delwa2ty ?
<MFawzy> u r NOT recording for 100.6 :D
<thelinuxer> el makan wala el equipment wala el nas walla eih ?
<MFawzy> el nas :D
<MFawzy> bas el nas
<MFawzy> el ba2y by3ady b7agat baseeta awy :D
<Extend> balash nebahwa2 el donia
<Extend> plz keep it simple
<MFawzy> with fair quality :D
<mgamal> the idea is that we need a place without much external noise
<mgamal> that's my idea
<MFawzy> Extend: + yegy 0 keda :D
<Sensiva> ana mottafeq ma3a extend, specially en e7na 3andena 7agat keter awi ne3melha
<MFawzy> 10 *
<mgamal> a PC with a mic + jokosher = WIN
<MFawzy> though I don't know what is Jokosher bas shaklaha fekra kwayesa :D
<thelinuxer> tayeb lets vote, +1 -1
<thelinuxer> +1
<thelinuxer> be3'ad el nazar 3an el resources delwa2ty
<Sensiva> +1
<thelinuxer> momken ne3mel 7ala2a fel sana
<MFawzy> hhhhhhhhhhh
<MFawzy> 7al2a fe el sana ?
<Sensiva> Extend mgamal MFawzy please vote
<Extend> vote 3ala eh
<mgamal> +1
<Sensiva> its 5pm, dahri waga3ni
<Sensiva> :<
<Sensiva> Extend for the podcast idea
<mgamal> I think it's better to make it bi-monthly though
<thelinuxer> mgamal: lol makansh asdy sana begad :D
<Extend> -1
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: ur vote
<Extend> i think focusing on the magazine is better
<MFawzy> -1
<thelinuxer> result +3 -2
<MFawzy> I think this has to wait a bit
<MFawzy> :)
<mgamal> it should definitely wait
<Extend> mgamal, its a great idea but we need to wait
<mgamal> it's a lower priority in the road map
<mgamal> but it should still be in the road map
<thelinuxer> we are discussing what to put in the roadmap
<thelinuxer> we are not saying that we will do it right away
<thelinuxer> tayeb the last point in the ideapool is the same as VLAD
<thelinuxer> LVAD*
<thelinuxer> ubuntu4kids
<thelinuxer> bas we aren't talking about programming here
<MFawzy> 5alas madam "for the roadmap" yeb2a sure .... bas as a farrrrr goal :)
<thelinuxer> we are talking about teaching the youth to use play draw using an ubuntu system
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: ok
<thelinuxer> we bardo Anas is not here
<thelinuxer> so y don't we skip this point and finish the meeting :D ?
<Sensiva> tuxpaint rocks
<Sensiva> my son zayet feeh 3al akher
<MFawzy> thelinuxer: great idea :)
<MFawzy> Sensiva: how old is he ??
<thelinuxer> MFawzy: great ne skip walla ubuntu4kids idea is gr8 :D ?
<MFawzy> thelinuxer: homa both gr8 el sara7a :D
<Sensiva> MFawzy will be three in few days
<thelinuxer> Sensiva: msA
<Sensiva> :))
<MFawzy> msA
<thelinuxer> tayeb i have nothing to say in this point
<mgamal> Sensiva: msA
<thelinuxer> el mic ma3ako
<MFawzy> thelinuxer: mark as duplicate :D :P
<thelinuxer> lol
<thelinuxer> begad lets postpone it at least
<thelinuxer> ana fe3lan te3ebt
<mgamal> ok
<Extend> ana mewafe2 3ala mawdo3 el kids dah
<Extend> bs feen el kids
<Sensiva> thelinuxer tayeb 7aleyan el contributions kollaha ma7soora fe 7adretak we mgamal we MFawzy we ana
<mgamal> Extend: good point
<thelinuxer> Extend: lol
<Sensiva> wel loco 191 member ta2reeban
<thelinuxer> yes i know
<mgamal> thelinuxer: You should post meeting minutes to the mailing list and a link to the IRC log and call for volunteers
<thelinuxer> mgamal: it didn't work before
<mgamal> thelinuxer: whatcha thinkin?
<Sensiva> so my idea is to send a call for volunteers msg to the mailing list and mention the points we need specifically
<MFawzy> Extend: we have a student module in our college that teaches "junior students" some soft skills from the schoooools we can do sth similar
<mgamal> thelinuxer: I believe we got more potential volunteers this time
<thelinuxer> remember when i posted asking for people to prepare the course material ? nothing happened until we did that meeting
<Extend> true
<mgamal> thelinuxer: it's different
<thelinuxer> boso here is what i think. ne3ady el meeting el gy dah
<thelinuxer> then we can do whatever we want
<mgamal> thelinuxer: the road map is already set, call for volunteers to pick up items from it
<thelinuxer> i want to get our application ready before tomorrow
<thelinuxer> mgamal: np sure
<thelinuxer> bas i won't do it now el sara7a
<thelinuxer> howa bas me7tag anazam el donia
<thelinuxer> 3ashan el nas te3raf te contribute fe eih we keda
<thelinuxer> here is what i am going to do right now
<thelinuxer> i will finish the application isA
<thelinuxer> and then send an email to the mailing list 3ashan el nas teshoof el application we el comments we keda
<thelinuxer> and then i will try to send a call for volunteers email isA
<thelinuxer> agree ?
<Extend> i agree
<Sensiva> mashi, just in the call msg mention bel ta7deed el tasks elli 3alena
<Extend> broken will volunteer as well
<Sensiva> 3ashan elli fe edo 7aga ye3melha
<mgamal> +1
<thelinuxer> brokenArrow ?
<thelinuxer> +1
<mgamal> woooooooohoooooooo
<mgamal> brokenArrow is with us?
<Extend> yes brokenarrow
<Extend> he will join me with alex team
<mgamal> we used to work together :D
<broken> eah ya ged3an fe eah !
<Extend> mgamal, enta te3rafo ?
<thelinuxer> broken: hi ya man
<mgamal> Extend: yes
<mgamal> broken: baaaaaaaaasha
<Sensiva> :D:D
<thelinuxer> ne2afel el meeting bas
<broken> thelinuxer: Hi, congrates for the membership :)
<thelinuxer> we ba3d keda ne3mel ely 3ayzeeno
<thelinuxer> broken: thanx man :)
<broken> mgamal: beah !
<thelinuxer> feeh 7aga tanya leeha da3wa bel meeting ?
<MFawzy> thelinuxer: fadel eh ya3ni ??
<broken> keep talking , don't let me stop you..
<thelinuxer> ok this meeting is adjourned


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