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| * Created: [[Date(2005-09-07T20:54:03Z)]] by MatthewPaulThomas * Priority: NeedsPriority * People: NeedsLead, NeedsSecond * Contributors: MatthewPaulThomas * Interested: * Status: UbzSpecification, BrainDump, DistroSpecification * Branch: * Malone bug: * Packages affected: `epiphany-browser`, `firefox`, `ubuntu-artwork` * Depends: * Dependents: [[FullSearch()]] * BoF sessions: none yet |
* '''Launchpad entry:''' https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/browser-defaults * '''Created:''' <<Date(2005-09-07T20:54:03Z)>> by MatthewPaulThomas * '''Contributors:''' MatthewPaulThomas * '''Packages affected:''' `epiphany-browser`, `firefox`, `ubuntu-docs`, `kubuntu-docs`, `edubuntu-artwork` |
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| Ubuntu's default home page for Firefox and Epiphany will be changed to `http://start.ubuntu.com/`, and the default bookmarks will be altered to include information accurate for Ubuntu. |
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| Modern dedicated Web browsers have useful default home pages that let you search the Web. * mozilla.org Firefox: [http://www.google.com/firefox Firefox Start] * gnome.org Epiphany: [http://www.google.com/ Google] * Internet Explorer: [http://www.msn.com/ MSN] * Safari: [http://apple.netscape.com/ Netscape.com (Apple edition)] * Opera: [http://portal.opera.com/ Opera Search] |
When you install Firefox or Epiphany for Ubuntu, its default home page is [[file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html|a local file full of boring text]]: ||<style="border: none; background-color: #ddd; color: #000;">My only other cosmetic gripe would be the default web browser home page. It is pretty ugly and scary as well since its a solid page of small text text text. In fact more than a single screen of text. You've got to scroll to read all the fine print. Confusing and technical and fairly ugly text.|| ||<) style="border: none; background-color: #ddd; color: #000;">''-- [[http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-September/010499.html|Pete Shinners]]''|| |
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| But when you install Firefox or Epiphany for Ubuntu, its default home page is [file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html a local file full of boring text]. We can do better. | Epiphany's default bookmarks are confusing: ||<style="border: none; background-color: #ddd; color: #000;">The epiphany "bookmarks bar" shows no bookmarks, only a "Search the web" entry box. What can I do with it? Is there similar functionality to the firefox bookmarks toolbar where I can define my own bookmark buttons and menus?|| ||<) style="border: none; background-color: #ddd; color: #000;">''-- [[http://mail.gnome.org/archives/epiphany-list/2005-October/msg00118.html|Raul Acevedo]]''|| |
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| ||<style="border: none; background-color: #eee; color: #000;">My only other cosmetic gripe would be the default web browser home page. It is pretty ugly and scary as well since its a solid page of small text text text. In fact more than a single screen of text. You've got to scroll to read all the fine print. Confusing and techinical and fairly ugly text.|| ||<) style="border: none; background-color: #eee; color: #000;">-- [http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-September/010499.html Pete Shinners]|| |
And Firefox's default bookmarks link to plugins that don't actually work in Ubuntu. We can do better. |
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| * Sally, an ex-windows user, is greeted by a giant page of text upon opening her browser. She doesn't understand this. * Corey wants to let more people know about help.ubuntu.com and get more docteam members. * Jeff wants more people to know about the cool things happening in Ubuntu. |
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* Home page * Bookmarks menu * Bookmarks Bar Out of scope: * CA certificates * default browser chrome |
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| The default home page should, in approximate order of importance: | === Home page === ==== Comparisons ==== Modern dedicated Web browsers have useful default home pages that let you search the Web. * mozilla.org Firefox: [[http://www.google.com/firefox|Firefox Start]] * gnome.org Epiphany: [[http://www.google.com/|Google]] * Internet Explorer: [[http://www.msn.com/|MSN]] * Safari: [[http://apple.netscape.com/|Netscape.com (Apple edition)]] * Opera: [[http://portal.opera.com/|Opera Search]] ==== Ubuntu ==== The default home page for Firefox and Epiphany will be `http://start.ubuntu.com/`. If we decide to change the effective default later on, we can do that by setting up a redirect. What is presented on this site is yet to be decided, but it should: |
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| * not slow people down by discouraging them from the browser's/OS's toolbar Web search * be beautiful. |
* provide links to local (GeoIP-detected) Ubuntu resources * not slow people down by discouraging them from the browser's/OS's toolbar Web search. Possible elements include: * a feed from the fridge * a link to help * a link to participate. === Bookmarks === The default bookmarks should also be (a) useful, and (b) a subtle hint to how to use bookmark folders (Firefox) or topics (Epiphany). ==== Comparisions ==== Vanilla Firefox has "Quick Searches" and "Firefox & Mozilla Links" folders in its Bookmarks menu, including links to pages of plugins that don't work in Ubuntu. In its Bookmarks Toolbar it has "Firefox Help", "Firefox Support", and "Plug-in FAQ". Vanilla Epiphany defaults to six empty topics in its Bookmarks menu, which looks broken, and a search field in its Bookmarks Bar, which is confusing: ==== Ubuntu ==== The Bookmarks Bar should include these items: * Ubuntu.com (http://ubuntu.com/) - possibly remove this if space isn't there * Ubuntu Help (http://help.ubuntu.com/) * Forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/) * The Fridge (http://fridge.ubuntu.com/) * Participate (http://ubuntu.com/community/participate/) |
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| === Code === | Do these things early in the cycle to get good feedback. |
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| === Data preservation and migration === | === Bookmarks === * Remove existing FF bookmarks * On the FF quick launch bar, remove the current buttons and add the above. === Start.ubuntu.com === * Look to community to get a good layout, possibly including a design contest. |
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| == BoF agenda and discussion == | * Can the bookmarks be localized? * If not, I'd suggest adding a link to support for all languages http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/local/ (the page needs improving, as with all of the website, but it might be a start) -- [[mdke]] |
Launchpad entry: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/browser-defaults
Created: 2005-09-07 by MatthewPaulThomas
Contributors: MatthewPaulThomas
Packages affected: epiphany-browser, firefox, ubuntu-docs, kubuntu-docs, edubuntu-artwork
Summary
Ubuntu's default home page for Firefox and Epiphany will be changed to http://start.ubuntu.com/, and the default bookmarks will be altered to include information accurate for Ubuntu.
Rationale
When you install Firefox or Epiphany for Ubuntu, its default home page is a local file full of boring text:
My only other cosmetic gripe would be the default web browser home page. It is pretty ugly and scary as well since its a solid page of small text text text. In fact more than a single screen of text. You've got to scroll to read all the fine print. Confusing and technical and fairly ugly text.
Epiphany's default bookmarks are confusing:
The epiphany "bookmarks bar" shows no bookmarks, only a "Search the web" entry box. What can I do with it? Is there similar functionality to the firefox bookmarks toolbar where I can define my own bookmark buttons and menus?
-- Raul Acevedo
And Firefox's default bookmarks link to plugins that don't actually work in Ubuntu.
We can do better.
Use cases
- Sally, an ex-windows user, is greeted by a giant page of text upon opening her browser. She doesn't understand this.
- Corey wants to let more people know about help.ubuntu.com and get more docteam members.
- Jeff wants more people to know about the cool things happening in Ubuntu.
Scope
- Home page
- Bookmarks menu
- Bookmarks Bar
Out of scope:
- CA certificates
- default browser chrome
Design
Home page
Comparisons
Modern dedicated Web browsers have useful default home pages that let you search the Web.
mozilla.org Firefox: Firefox Start
gnome.org Epiphany: Google
Internet Explorer: MSN
Safari: Netscape.com (Apple edition)
Opera: Opera Search
Ubuntu
The default home page for Firefox and Epiphany will be http://start.ubuntu.com/. If we decide to change the effective default later on, we can do that by setting up a redirect.
What is presented on this site is yet to be decided, but it should:
- be useful
- not steal focus from the URL field
- provide links to local (GeoIP-detected) Ubuntu resources
- not slow people down by discouraging them from the browser's/OS's toolbar Web search.
Possible elements include:
- a feed from the fridge
- a link to help
- a link to participate.
Bookmarks
The default bookmarks should also be (a) useful, and (b) a subtle hint to how to use bookmark folders (Firefox) or topics (Epiphany).
Comparisions
Vanilla Firefox has "Quick Searches" and "Firefox & Mozilla Links" folders in its Bookmarks menu, including links to pages of plugins that don't work in Ubuntu. In its Bookmarks Toolbar it has "Firefox Help", "Firefox Support", and "Plug-in FAQ".
Vanilla Epiphany defaults to six empty topics in its Bookmarks menu, which looks broken, and a search field in its Bookmarks Bar, which is confusing:
Ubuntu
The Bookmarks Bar should include these items:
Ubuntu.com (http://ubuntu.com/)
- - possibly remove this if space isn't there
Ubuntu Help (http://help.ubuntu.com/)
Forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/)
The Fridge (http://fridge.ubuntu.com/)
Participate (http://ubuntu.com/community/participate/)
Implementation
Do these things early in the cycle to get good feedback.
Bookmarks
- Remove existing FF bookmarks
- On the FF quick launch bar, remove the current buttons and add the above.
Start.ubuntu.com
- Look to community to get a good layout, possibly including a design contest.
Outstanding issues
- Can the bookmarks be localized?
If not, I'd suggest adding a link to support for all languages http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/local/ (the page needs improving, as with all of the website, but it might be a start) -- mdke
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