Log of meeting on 4/7/09

General Agenda Items and Proposals

Agenda discussion

• I think that holding our team meetings in #ubuntu-meeting (schedule permitting) could bring about a more official atmosphere to the meetings, as well as help to integrate the team better with the rest of the community. This also leaves our main channel open for side discussions, as well as users to have idle chit chat the tends to creep in during the meetings. -- rocket2dmn 2009-03-07 23:09:07

• We currently have a main Google Calendar for the BeginnersTeam, as well as several other calendars for the various Focus Groups. I think it would be very beneficial to the team to merge all of the Focus Group calendars into the main team calendar. This would make it easy for all team members to keep track of the various Focus Group events. In order to make this work, all Focus Group leaders would need to create a Google account and be given write access to the team calendar. The different Focus Groups also have their own mailing lists. Since none of these lists are high volume lists, I think it would be beneficial to merge them into the main BeginnersTeam mailing list. This would be very easy to do. Launchpad allows teams to disable the mailing lists. By doing this, all BeginnersTeam members would be able to stay up-to-date with the activities of the various Focus Groups. -- nhandler 2009-03-08 17:25:54

• I thin we should rotate the team leads, or at least re-elect them. Not that the current leads are dong a poor job, just the opposite in fact. I think we should promote leadership skills and not burn people out.
• We need a name for the moodle site. I sent a request to Canonical to use the Name Ubuntu.
• We need to start to discuss and document our scope for the community training project. We need to make sure we do not duplicate the official training or compete directly with it.

Log

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:10] <jamesrfla> yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:10] <Ash_R> i am.

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:21] <yvan300> so who is gonna start it

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:22] <jimi_hendrix> BRING IT!

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:24] <Rocket2DMn> Hey everybody, it seems like we have a lot of people here for this meeting, let's please try and remember to keep your thoughts organized, avoid making random statements like greetings, lol, and smilies

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:24] <sdennie> And I'm here!

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:31] <bodhizazen> OK, we have a full agenda so lets keep the cross talk down please

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:37] <jimi_hendrix>

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:38] <bodhizazen> Two suggestions :

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:38] <paultag> sdennie: no one cares you old bastard

[Tues Apr 7 23:1:46] <bodhizazen> 1. Move meeting to ubuntu-meeting

[Tues Apr 7 23:2:6] <bodhizazen> I think the team has grown to the point we should move the meeting time and be on the fridge

[Tues Apr 7 23:2:13] <bodhizazen> not today of course

[Tues Apr 7 23:2:25] <bodhizazen> 2. I really think we need to move to bi-monthly meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:2:37] <cprofitt> 0/

[Tues Apr 7 23:2:40] <jamesrfla> um bodhizazen just to let you know there is a of people coming and going in ubuntu-meeting

[Tues Apr 7 23:2:43] <bodhizazen> go cprofitt

[Tues Apr 7 23:2:45] <Hellow> thanks for pinging me *cough*

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:3] <jgoguen> Hellow: ping

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:4] <jgoguen>

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:7] <Hellow> -.-

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:7] <bodhizazen> same here jamesrfla and we need to coordingate with other teams

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:9] <robbmunson> nhandler: ping

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:15] <bodhizazen> ubuntu-meeting is logged

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:17] <nhandler> robbmunson: pong

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:28] <nhandler> bodhizazen: ubuntu-meeting also provides us with mootbot

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:31] <robbmunson> nhandler, votebot-dev, reactivation plz+?

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:36] <robbmunson> *plz?

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:51] <bodhizazen> .vote "move to ubuntu-meeting?"

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:51] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: move to ubuntu-meeting?

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:51] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:51] <Votebot> You can also /msg Votebot your vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:54] <nhandler> robbmunson: Sure

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:56] <bodhizazen> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:56] <Rocket2DMn> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:57] <Hellow> -1

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:57] <nhandler> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:59] <lukjad007> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:3:59] <Vantrax> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:0] <jamesrfla> -1

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:3] <robbmunson> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:6] <lukjad007> -

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:6] <forestpixie> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:7] <tim_sharitt> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:9] <cprofitt> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:9] <lukjad007> -1

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:12] <sdennie> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:14] <PartyBoi2> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:16] <jgoguen> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:16] <paultag> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:22] <zu22> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:29] <JoshuaRL> sup ladies

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:32] <paultag> zu22: you can't vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:33] <Hellow> zu22: non-voiced peoples cant vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:34] <bodhizazen> sweet, thanks everyone for being promtp

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:35] <jimi_hendrix> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:35] <JoshuaRL> meeting time right?

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:37] <zu22> oops sorry

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:37] <bodhizazen> .vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:37] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: move to ubuntu-meeting?

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:37] <Votebot> 15 People Voted. 6 People For. 3 People Against. 6 People Neutral.

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:48] <Hellow> botlag

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:51] <JoshuaRL> wait, what are we voting on?

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:51] <bodhizazen> OK then

[Tues Apr 7 23:4:54] <jgoguen> lag!

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:3] <yvan300> sup JoshuaRL

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:7] <JoshuaRL> hey yvan300

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:10] <nhandler> bodhizazen: I can take care of making the necessary arangements to move the meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:30] <bodhizazen> THANK YOU nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:36] <JoshuaRL> wow, this is a fo reals meeting. im 5 late and i missed a vote :p

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:37] <bodhizazen> Second item :

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:45] <bodhizazen> CONGRATS to everyone

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:49] <jamesrfla> ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:5:59] <Joeb454> +1 :P

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:2] <Hellow> lol

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:7] <bodhizazen> We have 2 new Admins on t the forums and a few new mods

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:15] <Joeb454> for what it's worth I would've probably +1'd the previous

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:28] <jamesrfla> didn't know there was mods on the UF

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:34] <bodhizazen> Next agenda item (sorry need to keep moving)

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:37] <Vantrax> <- is also a mod on Brainstorm

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:40] <cprofitt> nods to congratulate the new mods

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:42] <Hellow> jamesrfla... have you been in a cave?

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:42] <Snova> jamesrfla: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1119206

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:51] <JoshuaRL> mod power

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:51] <bodhizazen> consolidating things - mailing lists, wiki pages, etc

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:53] <nhandler> Congrats to everyone

[Tues Apr 7 23:6:54] <jimi_hendrix> bodhizazen, who are the new people

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:5] <Hellow> bodhizazen is one of them, jimi_hendrix

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:15] <Snova> jimi_hendrix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1119206

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:17] <JoshuaRL> jimi_hendrix: bodhi has admin power now

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:31] <bodhizazen> lol

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:33] <nhandler> bodhizazen: Are you on the council now?

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:35] <lukjad007> congrats bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:40] <robbmunson> hides from bodhi...even though its been quite a LONG time since i did anything forum wise.

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:43] <jimi_hendrix> bodhizazen, dont nerf me!

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:45] <jamesrfla> bodhizazen: is there a senior UF staff

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:47] <bodhizazen> I agree, we have too many pages / locations for things

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:50] <Joeb454> nhandler: yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:7:56] <bodhizazen> I think we should use gcal

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:2] <Joeb454> jamesrfla: forum council is the seniour staff, but lets continue

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:3] <Rocket2DMn> o/

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:7] <cprofitt> 0/

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:9] <bodhizazen> yes nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:30] <JoshuaRL> robbmunson: youre always in trouble

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:41] <robbmunson> JoshuaRL, dont remind me please

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:43] <cprofitt> Does gcal require contributors to have Google accounts?

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:54] <bodhizazen> the advantage of gcal,IMO, is it corrects for local time and despite some GNU / GTC geeks, UTC causes too much confusion

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:54] <jgoguen> cprofitt: yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:57] <Vantrax> please focus:P we are talking about consolidation here.

[Tues Apr 7 23:8:58] <Hellow> has had a Google account for god knows how long

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:4] <Rocket2DMn> +1 for gcal. For mailing lists, I think we can merge all the FG mailing lists to the main list. The BT only needs one list, and FGs can use the list as well. In this way, everybody can see what is happening, even if they are not part of the team.

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:14] <Vantrax> Rocket2DMn, +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:16] <Rocket2DMn> s/team/FG

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:19] <bodhizazen> I do not see the requirement of a google account to be a big deal

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:20] <nhandler> bodhizazen: If we move the meetings to #ubuntu-meeting, our meetings will also be on the Fridge

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:20] <Snova> I didn't even know there was more than one...

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:35] <bodhizazen> In addition we will be on Fridge, which is also on gcal

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:36] <tim_sharitt> Rocket2DMn: +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:40] <cprofitt> Is there a calendar service that does not require Google accounts?

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:42] <jamesrfla> bodhizazen: they are free and easy to set up

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:47] <sdennie> bodhizazen: The other option would be to host an LDAP cal on your server

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:50] <cprofitt> one that can leverage OpenID?

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:51] <Vantrax> cprofitt, not an easy one

[Tues Apr 7 23:9:59] <nhandler> cprofitt: Not many that are good. That is one reason the Fridge is now using gcal

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:6] <Vantrax> cprofitt, i think google does support open ID

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:12] <Joeb454> I thought google supported openID

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:12] <bodhizazen> I favor gcal, as that has fridge

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:15] <nhandler> Vantrax: Not for loggin in

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:19] <Joeb454> Vantrax: stop beating me to it

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:20] <Hellow> google supports openid?

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:23] <Vantrax> IE my google account is an openID account

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:31] <cprofitt> if Google supports openID and I do not need to have an account with them I am good with GCal

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:44] <nhandler> The google account is an open id account, but you cannot sign into google using a different open id account

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:44] <Hellow> cprofitt: google hater

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:50] <robbmunson> as far as i am aware google doesnt support open id

[Tues Apr 7 23:10:53] <cprofitt> if I need an account with them I would prefer not to use them

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:1] <robbmunson> ive had gmail for a LONG time and havent seen anything about openid

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:6] <jimi_hendrix> wow text moves fast during meetings...i was only afk for like 2 minutes

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:13] <jgoguen> Google doesn't support openid at all...

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:14] <nhandler> cprofitt: I would be glad to add any events you would like added

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:21] <lukjad007> jimi_hendrix, Doesn't it though

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:22] <cprofitt> nods to nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:37] <nhandler> I also am fine updating the Fridge calendar

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:38] <Ash_R> I don't think the need for a google account is a big deal.

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:46] <bodhizazen> any other consolidation needed ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:11:56] <Vantrax> just mailing and calendar

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:1] <Hellow> bodhizazen: wasent there a project earlier this year to organize the wiki?

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:5] <bodhizazen> I also think we should consolidate into a single BT calender on gcal

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:7] <cprofitt> Ash_R, perhaps... I would rather have a Microsoft account or Apple account than a Google account though

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:8] <Hellow> did that ever get finished?

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:13] <zu22> You can use your Google Account to log into any site that supports OpenID! ...

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:13] <zu22> openid-provider.appspot.com/ - 4k - Cached - Similar pages

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:13] <zu22> #

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:13] <zu22> Google Offers OpenID Logins Via Blogger

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:13] <zu22> After testing OpenID's as logins to Google's Blogger in Draft program in November, Google has become an OpenID provider itself. The news confirms ...

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:13] <Vantrax> bodhizazen, I agree

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:15] <zu22> www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/18/google-offers-openid-logins-via-blogger/ - 65k - Cached - Similar pages

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:18] <zu22> #

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:19] <bodhizazen> so team leads contact me and make sure you have editing power

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:20] <zu22> OpenID and the Identity Systems of Yahoo, Google & MSN - ReadWriteWeb

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:21] <jgoguen> Ash_R: as someone with a Google account, I would love to get rid of it...they collect and store way too much that they don't need to

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:22] <zu22> Written by Emre Sokullu and edited by Richard MacManus You may've heard of OpenID - it's a distributed identity management system, aka a decentralized ...

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:25] <zu22> www.readwriteweb.com/archives/openid_vs_bigco.php - 76k - Cached - Similar pages

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:27] <zu22> #

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:28] <Hellow> zu22: JESUS

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:28] <Rocket2DMn> zu22, dont ever do that again

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:29] <zu22> umm oh shit

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:31] <zu22> sorry

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:33] <forestpixie> zu22: stop

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:35] <jamesrfla> oh snap

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:36] <bodhizazen> zu22: stop spamming during meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:38] <Rocket2DMn> ues pastebin man

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:40] <paultag> zu22: please stop

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:43] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, editing power on which -- the GCal or ??

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:45] <Hellow> this is hilarious

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:47] <zu22> it was a mistake! i was pasting a private message to bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:12:48] <bodhizazen> gcal yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:4] <cprofitt> ok...

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:12] <cprofitt> did we vote on using Gcal yet?

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:12] <nhandler> can also give write powers to FG leads

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:20] <Vantrax> zu22, http://paste.ubuntu.com :P

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:25] <bodhizazen> cprofitt: I am willing to consider an alternate, but then that defeats the prupose as Ubutnu (Fridge) uses gcal

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:27] <nhandler> cprofitt: We voted at an earlier meeting to use it for our calendar

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:35] <cprofitt> ah... ok

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:41] <JoshuaRL> zu22: its okay, everyone makes mistakes. but jeez :p

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:44] <bodhizazen> so I need a better arguement then someone does not like gcal or can not be bothered to make an account

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:46] <jamesrfla> thinks nhandler has already contributed way to much to the community

[Tues Apr 7 23:13:57] <paultag> jamesrfla: stop

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:6] <Rocket2DMn> Ok, can we move on now please?

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:9] <Vantrax> dont do that, he might stop:P

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:9] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, noted.

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:13] <jamesrfla> ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:27] <Vantrax> we dont want him to contribute less jamesrfla

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:37] <bodhizazen> nhandler: any other consolidation ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:43] <bodhizazen> Otherwise Rocket2DMn is up

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:56] <bodhizazen> Summer of wiki

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:57] <Rocket2DMn> Just really quick then since we're in a hurry...

[Tues Apr 7 23:14:58] <nhandler> bodhizazen: Where are we going to be hosting FG meetings?

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:0] <jamesrfla> Vantrax: Just congratulating him for his effort

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:5] <paultag> Vantrax: jamesrfla: keep it focused

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:12] <Rocket2DMn> I would like the team to help finish up our FAQ, it hsa been a work in progress for a long time - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/FAQ

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:21] <bodhizazen> nhandler: I think Education on #ubuntu-meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:22] <Hellow> Ooh! I can work on that!

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:29] <bodhizazen> other smaller ones ? here

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:29] <cprofitt> nhandler, #ubuntu-meetings was what the vote decided

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:35] <Rocket2DMn> Also, after Jaunty is released, perhaps early May, we will start our Summer of Documentation with the Wiki FG. Anybody interested can talk to me after the meeting

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:39] <nhandler> cprofitt: That was for BT meetings, not FG meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:42] <ibuclaw> hi guys, sorry bout the time

[Tues Apr 7 23:15:58] <cprofitt> nhandler, sorry... I did not see the FG part

[Tues Apr 7 23:16:3] <bodhizazen> unless any other team is coordinating outside our team ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:16:9] <JoshuaRL> Rocket2DMn: i can work on that wiki page too

[Tues Apr 7 23:16:20] <cprofitt> currently education meetings are in ##beginners-education

[Tues Apr 7 23:16:30] <Rocket2DMn> I think basicaly all FGs should be coordinating outside our team, with their respective teams (like Wiki FG works with the doc-tema)

[Tues Apr 7 23:16:36] <bodhizazen> Any focus group that needs to coordinate closely with other teams needs to move to ubuntu-meeting

[Tues Apr 7 23:16:41] <Vantrax> bodhizazen, the education FG might be a little different for a bit in terms of meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:16:53] <bodhizazen> how so Vantrax ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:4] <digitalvectorz> we're in a mtg, right

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:5] <JoshuaRL> Vantrax: with the inclusion of pleia2's group?

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:11] <bodhizazen> Rocket2DMn: good point

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:16] <Vantrax> JoshuaRL, and others

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:23] <bodhizazen> we can move all meetings to #ubuntu-meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:37] <robbmunson> bodhizazen, that means we would have to behave though

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:51] <Rocket2DMn> Yes. yes it would.

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:53] <bodhizazen> yea, we need to behave now anyways robbmunson

[Tues Apr 7 23:17:59] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, I think the EDU group is in flux currently with Vantrax's suggestions... we will likely move to #ubuntu-meetings, but I am not sure that we have worked that through with everyone yet

[Tues Apr 7 23:18:0] <Hellow> we do?

[Tues Apr 7 23:18:1] <bodhizazen> we are too large for bad behavior

[Tues Apr 7 23:18:4] <Hellow> lolk

[Tues Apr 7 23:18:4] <forestpixie> it might mean I get to bed earlier too

[Tues Apr 7 23:18:16] <bodhizazen> bring it to ##beginners-fun&games

[Tues Apr 7 23:18:34] <bodhizazen> yes, the education team has put us in the spotlight

[Tues Apr 7 23:18:36] <JoshuaRL> jeez, we have a crap-ton of channels now

[Tues Apr 7 23:18:58] <bodhizazen> OK cprofitt , I think the point is to move in that direction is all

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:16] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, that is fine... I agree with the move in that direction

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:23] <bodhizazen> Back on topic

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:23] <cprofitt> it is just not something that had been discussed yet

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:25] <digitalvectorz> why not have a bot cmd for votebot or something that'll list the channels for anyone curious (in addition to having them on the wiki)

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:26] <JoshuaRL> if we're moving to meetings and education, plus we have help, why do we need fun&games?

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:34] <cprofitt> unless that happened while I was in training today

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:39] <Rocket2DMn> digitalvectorz, I like that idea

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:48] <robbmunson> digitalvectorz, can we vot on that? I personally like that too

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:49] <bodhizazen> It was a joke, fun&games, lmao

[Tues Apr 7 23:19:53] <Vantrax> cprofitt, nothin happened yet today with Edu FG

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:5] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: ah. well then.

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:15] <digitalvectorz> robbmunson: if we wanna vote on it, i'm up for voting on it

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:22] <bodhizazen> We should list our channels on the wiki

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:27] <lukjad007> +1 on the voting

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:35] <bodhizazen> vote on what ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:39] <nhandler> bodhizazen: Aren't they already listed there?

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:51] <bodhizazen> idk nhandler , lol

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:59] <bodhizazen> have not looked to see if they are all there

[Tues Apr 7 23:20:59] <sdennie> They are listed there

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:2] <Hellow> they are?

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:4] <digitalvectorz> i think we're voting on having a bot command for votebot or something that'll list all of our available channels

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:10] <digitalvectorz> and or the wiki..

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:11] <sdennie> At least most of them

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:12] <cprofitt> ##beginners-education has been listed on our meetings page since I did the redesign of the wiki page

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:15] <Hellow> actually, that would be a good idea

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:16] <digitalvectorz> i'm not quite sure to be honest

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:17] <bodhizazen> we do not need a vote for that

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:17] <nhandler> bodhizazen: I believe they are listed on the individual FG pages as well as on one of the main BT pages

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:19] <lukjad007> bodhizazen, I was voting on being able to vote for the Votebot factoid about the channels

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:37] <Rocket2DMn> idont think we need to vote on that, we'll just get it implemented soon

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:38] <JoshuaRL> and i was voting for the voting on the voting

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:41] <Vantrax> Thats just a nice idea that should be looked at anyway:P

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:46] <digitalvectorz> Rocket2DMn: +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:47] <bodhizazen> it is a good suggestion and we can work on it

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:49] <Vantrax> Okies back on topic people

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:51] <jamesrfla> lol JoshuaRL

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:51] <st33med> lost track of time

[Tues Apr 7 23:21:58] <st33med> Meeting just start?

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:3] <Rocket2DMn> I'm gonna keep playing the guy watching the clock here. Can we postpone the Edu organization stuff for now except the specific stuff on thte agenda?

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:5] <Vantrax> bout 20 min in

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:10] <st33med> k

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:14] <Vantrax> Rocket2DMn, I think so

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:14] <cprofitt> Rocket2DMn, yes please

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:21] <forestpixie> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:24] <bodhizazen> As far as Wiki the summer of wiki is coming up and I would like to see people contribute to the wiki please

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:40] <nhandler> is up for contributing a little

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:42] <Rocket2DMn> +1, please talk to me after the meeting if youre interested in helping with the community docs wiki

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:43] <lukjad007> st33med, We already voted on something

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:44] <Rocket2DMn> moving on...

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:53] <bodhizazen> Next topic : Testimonials

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:56] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: do we have a list of what needs to be worked on?

[Tues Apr 7 23:22:58] <bodhizazen> Just a general FYI

[Tues Apr 7 23:23:23] <bodhizazen> if you are going for Ubuntu membership and want a testamonial from me I need advance notice

[Tues Apr 7 23:23:36] <nhandler> The same goes for me

[Tues Apr 7 23:23:44] <bodhizazen> I would like to have time to review wiki / LP pages and contributions to the team and forums

[Tues Apr 7 23:23:45] <jamesrfla> can never get Ubuntu membership

[Tues Apr 7 23:23:53] <nathangrubb> bodhizazen: omg you're an admin now

[Tues Apr 7 23:23:58] <bodhizazen> so no more "I am on the schedule for tomorrow"

[Tues Apr 7 23:23:59] <Hellow> OMG LOL

[Tues Apr 7 23:24:0] <JoshuaRL> why would i want YOUR testamonial nhandler? :p

[Tues Apr 7 23:24:16] <bodhizazen> next topic ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:24:22] <sdennie> bodhizazen: Hold on

[Tues Apr 7 23:24:23] <JoshuaRL> hehe

[Tues Apr 7 23:24:24] <st33med> I pestered bodhizazen last time

[Tues Apr 7 23:24:34] <bodhizazen> yes sdennie ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:24:52] <bodhizazen> next topic will be rotating FG leads ...

[Tues Apr 7 23:24:58] <bodhizazen> pending sdennie

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:4] <bodhizazen> ... :p

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:10] <st33med> lawl

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:12] <sdennie> I would say that in general, if you are up for membership and want an admin/mod/dev or anyone really to write a testimonial and you think that testimonial is key that you should directly ask them and with notice.

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:29] <JoshuaRL> sdennie: good rule of thumb

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:32] <bodhizazen> +1 sdennie

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:34] <Joeb454> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:39] <lukjad007> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:47] <bodhizazen> OK, FG leads

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:47] <Vantrax> Also have your wiki page complete before asking. It makes it easier to review

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:48] <Rocket2DMn> If we don't feel you are ready, we will be glad to help you get there, but we won't just provide testimonials because you decide to go for membership

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:51] <nhandler> And never send it to all Ubuntu Members using the Contact this Team feature on LP

[Tues Apr 7 23:25:59] <st33med> /notice bodhizazen I WANT TESTIMONIAL

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:4] <Vantrax> shhhh nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:7] <bodhizazen> A long time ago in a galaxy far far away we elected FG leads

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:9] <cprofitt> +1 Rocket2DMn

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:12] <Vantrax> bodhi told me to:P

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:15] <bodhizazen> We never set term limits ...

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:34] <JoshuaRL> i say 6 mon

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:34] <bodhizazen> So I want to know from the team, should we set term limits ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:40] <bodhizazen> Rotate leadership ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:41] <paultag> I think so

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:41] <PartyBoi2> yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:41] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Structure - for reference

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:44] <paultag> I agree totally

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:44] <Joeb454> bodhizazen: I decided my term was up last month but +1 for term limits, it stops stagnation

[Tues Apr 7 23:26:55] <Rocket2DMn> o/

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:1] <digitalvectorz> +1 limits

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:1] <forestpixie> o/

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:1] <bodhizazen> OK, so next month we need to

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:4] <JoshuaRL> o/

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:5] <st33med> it's a democracy

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:5] <bodhizazen> 1. Set term limits

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:10] <Joeb454> though if the members of that fg + the fg leader think the current fg leader should stay on, then let them

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:12] <Vantrax> Set terms, but allow for reapplication to lead

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:13] <bodhizazen> 2. elect new FG leads

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:22] <tim_sharitt> +1 Joeb454

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:27] <lukjad007> Joeb454, +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:30] <bodhizazen> The current FG leads are of course eligible for re-election

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:32] <jgoguen> +1 Joeb454

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:51] <bodhizazen> go Rocket2DMn (I think you were firse)

[Tues Apr 7 23:27:51] <Rocket2DMn> I have no problem rotating leaders if others are interested. What if a group is currently pretty active though? For instance, I'd love some help with the Wiki FG, but what is the point in stepping aside if I'm still doing the organizing?

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:6] <Vantrax> just pass that one in, no need to vote.

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:7] <bodhizazen> exactly Rocket2DMn

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:9] <sdennie> FG Leads are fine with me

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:11] <JoshuaRL> Rocket2DMn: thats why you can seek reelection

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:11] <nhandler> Rocket2DMn: That is why you can run again

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:18] <digitalvectorz> so "Term Length" would be more appropriate terminology than "Term Limits" it sounds like?

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:20] <bodhizazen> If current leaders are "best" then there is no need to change

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:25] <bodhizazen> I think the point is

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:25] <sdennie> Errr... Voting on them that is

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:28] <bodhizazen> 1. term limits

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:34] <bodhizazen> 2 team vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:43] <bodhizazen> that way everyone feels they are involved

[Tues Apr 7 23:28:50] <bodhizazen> and FG will not stagnate

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:2] <st33med> 2 terms served max, then the republicans and democrats go after it again

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:4] <st33med>

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:8] <bodhizazen> LOL

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:15] <nhandler> bodhizazen: One thing I would like is to restrict these leadership positions to BT members who have been around for more than a month

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:18] <bodhizazen> so think about it for next month

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:23] <bodhizazen> +1 nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:35] <JoshuaRL> +1 nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:37] <digitalvectorz> I disagree with setting a term limit...but agree with setting a term length

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:37] <Rocket2DMn> Do we really need rules like that?

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:56] <Rocket2DMn> I don't think people will be elected if they are brand new

[Tues Apr 7 23:29:59] <bodhizazen> If you are interested in leading a FG, please add your name to the wiki as well as why / how your are interested in the postion

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:13] <Vantrax> bodhizazen, how does that work with co-leads?

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:13] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, which wiki page?

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:21] <bodhizazen> meetings please

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:27] <st33med> I'd rather not submit right now; too busy with school

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:28] <Rocket2DMn> Vantrax, i would say in that case you just elect 2 people

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:29] <bodhizazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:51] <bodhizazen> I like that idea for the larger teams Rocket2DMn , like say wiki and education at this time

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:54] <duanedesign> newbie question. what is FG?

[Tues Apr 7 23:30:58] <st33med> "|

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:0] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, do we have a page with the team leads all in one place...?

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:1] <Vantrax> focus group

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:6] <st33med> Focus group

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:7] <cprofitt> I thought we used to but can not find it...

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:12] <Rocket2DMn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:12] <duanedesign>

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:28] <cprofitt> thanks robbmunson

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:31] <cprofitt> fail

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:33] <cprofitt> Rocket2DMn,

[Tues Apr 7 23:31:43] <bodhizazen> OK so think about that for next month, unless people are ready to go in 2 weeks

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:0] <cprofitt> I have to add that back in to the links Rocket2DMn

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:0] <Rocket2DMn> let's say next meeting, a lot else will be happening in the next 2 weeks

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:3] <bodhizazen> next item -

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:6] <st33med> =========================================================================================================

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:12] <bodhizazen> Moodle site

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:14] <nhandler> cprofitt: The FG leads are also on the Meetings page

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:20] <JoshuaRL> st33med: what the

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:28] <st33med> Borders

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:29] <robbmunson> cprofitt, heh, its ok..

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:30] <bodhizazen> We need a name for moodle site and we need contributions

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:35] <st33med> Moodle/

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:36] <st33med> ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:45] <Rocket2DMn> I think we need a web address AND a name

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:50] <bodhizazen> Vantrax: has done an outstanding job with this ::)

[Tues Apr 7 23:32:52] <lukjad007> Learnbuntu is my favourate

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:2] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: i like Learn Ubuntu

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:3] <Vantrax> The currently suggested name, which the community manager likes is Ubuntu Community Training

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:7] <jgoguen> bodhizazen: pending Canonical approval, Ubuntu Community Learning @ learning.ubuntu.com

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:12] <bodhizazen> I sent a request to Canonical to use the name ubuntu

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:15] <bodhizazen> so ...

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:17] <Joeb454> lolwehatemicrosoft.com:9846

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:17] <cprofitt> I like that one Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:18] <nhandler> I created a poll using some of the names that people suggested on IRC: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntuforums-beginners/+poll/ufbt-moodle-name/+vote-simple

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:21] <Joeb454> bodhizazen: nice

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:29] <st33med> question: WTF is Moodle?

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:33] <tim_sharitt> I prefer some thing with learning over training

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:34] <bodhizazen> add suggestions to meeting page to be decided in 2 weeks

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:43] <JoshuaRL> st33med: where we post info about/with classes

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:50] <robbmunson> nhandler, sidebar for a sec?

[Tues Apr 7 23:33:55] <bodhizazen> yes robbmunson

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:1] <Vantrax> st33med, its a content management system for teaching.

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:3] <st33med> Ah

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:10] <st33med> So, I'd use that

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:12] <st33med> sweet

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:13] <cprofitt> st33med, Moodle is an LMS that I suggested back when I took over...

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:14] <bodhizazen> I like Ubuntu Community Education

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:17] <cprofitt> and it has now caught on..

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:22] <cprofitt> smiles

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:26] <robbmunson> no im requesting nhandler look at private message bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:28] <st33med> Right...

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:35] <Rocket2DMn> I like Ubuntu Community Education as well, it helps separate it from canonical's official trianing

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:38] <bodhizazen> I will host on my server and if all goes well Canonical will add a CNAME to point to it

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:45] <st33med> Woman pages/

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:46] <st33med> ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:49] <st33med> :P

[Tues Apr 7 23:34:49] <cprofitt> LMS = Learning management system

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:0] <lukjad007> I prefer learnbuntu for what it's worth.

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:7] <robbmunson> lukjad007, me too

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:8] <Vantrax> bodhizazen, my suggestion is we take the top three and ask canonicals opinion on which one

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:17] <JoshuaRL> Vantrax: +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:22] <PartyBoi2> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:24] <cprofitt> lukjad007, adding the community part and being able to use the Ubuntu name is the best option IMHO

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:40] <bodhizazen> can do Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:43] <zu22> .

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:53] <Vantrax> must have community in it to separate it from the official training

[Tues Apr 7 23:35:56] <JoshuaRL> cprofitt: +1. not very many get to use the ubuntu name

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:5] <bodhizazen> So let us put up suggestion for a name on the meeting wiki page

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:9] <lukjad007> shrugs. I still prefer Learnbuntu, but okay

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:15] <bodhizazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:37] <tim_sharitt> My vote would be for Ubuntu Community Training or Ubuntu Community Learning

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:50] <cprofitt> tim... I like the Learning part...

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:51] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: theres that poll on LP ...

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:52] <bodhizazen> we *may* need to decide before 2 weeks, in shich case the education team will decide

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:54] <Vantrax> tim_sharitt, put it on the wiki

[Tues Apr 7 23:36:56] <cprofitt> as it fits more with the vision I think

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:7] <bodhizazen> We *may* negotiate if you will w/ canonical

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:11] <Rocket2DMn> We can always send an email to the team mailing list too

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:13] <bodhizazen> JoshuaRL: link ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:19] <nhandler> bodhizazen: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntuforums-beginners/+poll/ufbt-moodle-name/+vote-simple

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:20] <forestpixie> prefers Learning too

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:31] <nhandler> That poll contains the names suggested on IRC the other day

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:33] <bodhizazen> OK, that works

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:46] <st33med> bodhizazen, I think that we should give a heads up to canonical while we make a name

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:46] <bodhizazen> update the poll + cast your votes

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:46] <lukjad007> If it's between the training and learning, I prefer learning.

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:47] <Rocket2DMn> I like Training, but Learning would make more sense if we can get learning.ubuntu.com

[Tues Apr 7 23:37:51] <JoshuaRL> nhandler: could you add the names we've discussed here? maybe just replace some of the more joke ones

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:7] <robbmunson> Ok boys and girls i hate to be rude but I gotta go rest, got home from doctors and im tired.....

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:8] <bodhizazen> st33med: I sent an email to canonical , no response yet

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:13] <st33med> K

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:15] <lukjad007> robbmunson, +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:30] <Vantrax> bodhizazen, we do have a response direct from sabdfl tho

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:31] <zu22> God bless u robbmunson i will pray for ur healing

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:32] <JoshuaRL> robbmunson: night man. peace to your mother.

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:36] <nhandler> bodhizazen: Who did you send it to?

[Tues Apr 7 23:38:57] <bodhizazen> OK, Vantrax and cprofitt how about turning it over to you two re Education team issues

[Tues Apr 7 23:39:3] <bodhizazen> cprofitt: you may go first

[Tues Apr 7 23:39:13] <bodhizazen> [email protected]

[Tues Apr 7 23:39:21] <cprofitt> I wanted to make sure that people were clear that the addtion of Moodle as a tool for the EDU team was part of a vision I had when I was asked to lead the EDU team. The vision was to build a site for self-paced learning that helped to feed and grow the instructor lead learning. The end game is to use the Moodle site, IRC, Forums and Wiki to weave a powerful educational tool that includes self-paced learning and instructor lead

[Tues Apr 7 23:39:21] <cprofitt> learning.

[Tues Apr 7 23:39:39] <cprofitt> I think the 'vision' will get more clear as we move rapidly forward

[Tues Apr 7 23:39:57] <cprofitt> Vantrax is working on our project outline, etc...

[Tues Apr 7 23:40:3] <cprofitt> you want to go in to that Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:40:8] <Vantrax> we will also be releasing some sort of documentation to that effect soon:P

[Tues Apr 7 23:40:13] <Vantrax> if you want

[Tues Apr 7 23:40:38] <bodhizazen> nhandler: when we are ready, if I do not have a response, we can mail mark directly

[Tues Apr 7 23:40:47] <Vantrax> Basically we are doing a little bit of docco on what the moodle site is for, and what training is planed to be covered in the first instance

[Tues Apr 7 23:40:49] <cprofitt> Yes, I think we need to nail some stuff down... work with pleia2 and Canonical and the let the BT and other teams know officially

[Tues Apr 7 23:40:52] <nhandler> bodhizazen: I would suggest trying Jono first

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:8] <bodhizazen> OK nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:10] <nhandler> cprofitt: Vantrax: Could you guys please keep the BT mailing list CCed on these emails?

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:13] <Vantrax> the training should grow quickly but we want to have a concrete series of training for launch

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:14] <bodhizazen> when we are ready

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:30] <bodhizazen> +1 Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:34] <Vantrax> nhandler, they will be now ive been keeping bodhi in on all the emails as well so far

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:40] <st33med> Like Python

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:41] <JoshuaRL> Vantrax: hows things going with other teams feeling like we're stepping in their territory?

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:45] <Rocket2DMn> For simplicity's sake, I think we should let Vantrax and cprofitt move forwarded with help from bodhizazen , and they can keep us all informted on the mailing list

[Tues Apr 7 23:41:47] <cprofitt> nhandler, I will on any I initiate

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:1] <Vantrax> some of them were having a little trouble but over all we are doing well

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:6] <JoshuaRL> good

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:14] <Vantrax> the project plan will make that a little easier

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:19] <zu22> does canonical send us a gift certificate or free ubuntu stuff? mebbe suggest that to them, like all BT members get t-shit, free Ubuntu book, complete set of CD/DVDs, just my idea

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:28] <Rocket2DMn> Once they are setup and have a few basic sessions setup, we can start organizing more session specifics, having seen what it looks like and how it works

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:30] <bodhizazen> we, Vantrax deserves a lot of credit, as does cprofitt and Rocket2DMn

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:30] <nhandler> zu22: I doubt they will do that

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:34] <zu22> nhandler: ok

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:35] <bodhizazen> you have all been outstanding

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:36] <Vantrax> we want to work with all the work teams are doing already, specifically classroom, bug squad and motu

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:49] <cprofitt> and training right Vantrax ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:42:57] <Vantrax> there is also a community desktop training team apparently that I will be getting in touch with soon

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:12] <cprofitt> I already have contact with that lead person Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:15] <Vantrax> yay

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:22] <jamesrfla> bodhizazen: don't forget nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:22] <cprofitt> from a few months ago when I discussed using Moodle

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:26] <Vantrax> i havent been able to catch them:P

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:28] <bodhizazen> Next in our agenda will be NEW MEMBERS (when cprofitt and Vantrax are done)

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:35] <cprofitt> Pleia also offered to host Moodle for us back a few months ago

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:47] <cprofitt> I still have one non-EDU item bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:52] <st33med> I wish I could help right now with Python tutoring, but, with these classes I am taking, I fear it is not going to happen

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:57] <Vantrax> Basically after the easter weekend you will all have an email with a draft plan that we can comment on

[Tues Apr 7 23:43:59] <nhandler> Please be careful not to duplicate efforts of the MOTU School or the Packaging Training sessions

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:10] <zu22> MOTU?

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:14] <nhandler> !motu

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:14] <Votebot> short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:17] <bodhizazen> +1 nhandler

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:27] <zu22> omg He-Man

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:30] <zu22> <8

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:38] <bodhizazen> with moodle, we can add MOTU content as moodle will render links

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:39] <Vantrax> nhandler, being very careful not to. We want to include them in the planning so that they can take advantage of moodle

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:44] <JoshuaRL> nhandler: so no packaging sessions, huh?

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:54] <zu22> yvan3001!

[Tues Apr 7 23:44:58] <nhandler> JoshuaRL: I think that would just be a duplication of efforts

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:0] <bodhizazen> so more orginization and direction to resources rather then duplication of effort

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:4] <Vantrax> JoshuaRL, yes sessions, but run by MOTU etc

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:12] <Vantrax> not us

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:12] <robbmunson> nhandler +1 on that

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:23] <Rocket2DMn> I think it would be ideal if we invite other teams/group that already hold sessions to incorporate the new tool as part of their toolkit for training

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:31] <JoshuaRL> Vantrax: thats a good idea. so, we're looking for the other teams to come under the umbrella we're setting up then?

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:32] <robbmunson> slides back to being afk

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:33] <Vantrax> Rocket2DMn, thats already in the planning

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:33] <bodhizazen> +1 Rocket

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:38] <tim_sharitt> robbmunson: +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:45] <tim_sharitt> Rocket2DMn: +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:47] <Vantrax> the idea is that several teams can use this platform for their own training

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:53] <bodhizazen> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:53] <JoshuaRL> nice

[Tues Apr 7 23:45:59] <Joeb454> awesome

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:5] <Vantrax> they all have access to create courses themselves

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:13] <bodhizazen> Moodle is more of an orginizational tool and IMO adds to wiki / forums / LP

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:18] <Vantrax> it also provides a central point for community training information

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:18] <bodhizazen> not replaces it

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:35] <cprofitt> Rocket2DMn, I agree... that was the vision

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:39] <nhandler> I think we need to make Rocket2DMn's point clear in the ML discussion

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:43] <bodhizazen> cprofitt: what is your other issue ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:51] <cprofitt> I want us to consider forming a team that will help people who want to advocate for Ubuntu in their local community. Not to intrude on LoCo teams, but to help guide them in that direction and potentially get them resources - like presenations that are creative commons, etc.

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:55] <Vantrax> it will all be clear when the project plan is announced

[Tues Apr 7 23:46:59] <cprofitt> not for discussion now... but to consider...

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:11] <bodhizazen> good idea cprofitt

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:25] <bodhizazen> shall we move to new members ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:30] <cprofitt> I am ready

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:33] <Rocket2DMn> +1 moving on to new members

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:33] <jamesrfla> +1 bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:39] <tim_sharitt> +1 bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:39] <lukjad007> Yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:41] <Ash_R> yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:42] <Vantrax> one other bit

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:47] <robbmunson> rethinks my afkish and +1s cprofit and bodhi

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:47] <lukjad007> No.

[Tues Apr 7 23:47:59] <Vantrax> bodhizazen, need one other thing first

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:8] <Rocket2DMn> say it quickly Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:11] <bodhizazen> go Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:14] <JoshuaRL> QUICKLY

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:19] <Rocket2DMn> bodhi needs to leave in 12 min iirc

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:19] <st33med> NAO

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:25] <bodhizazen> I also feel we need bi-monthly meetings

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:30] <jgoguen> +1 bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:35] <jamesrfla> +1 bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:40] <robbmunson> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:43] <lukjad007> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:45] <nhandler> bodhizazen: We tried that for a while, and I thought we felt that they were too frequent

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:46] <Joeb454> +

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:49] <Vantrax> Name change recommended from Ubuntu Forums Beginners Team to Ubuntu Beginners Team as most of what we do is no longer forums

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:49] <bodhizazen> So same time in 2 weeks

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:50] <Joeb454> er +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:50] <bodhizazen>

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:52] <sdennie> With a bi-monthly meeting, the agenda will be twice as long

[Tues Apr 7 23:48:53] <ibuclaw> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:3] <cprofitt> +1 Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:6] <sdennie> Wait, no, other way around...

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:10] <bodhizazen> Vantrax: I would need to run that by the UF staff

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:14] <Vantrax> yep

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:14] <JoshuaRL> +1 Vantrax

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:15] <st33med> +3.141....

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:19] <Joeb454> NEVAR

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:21] <Joeb454> :P

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:23] <st33med> NO U

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:23] <JoshuaRL> heh

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:26] <lukjad007> NO!!!

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:30] <jamesrfla> on topic please

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:38] <digitalvectorz> bi-monthly...every other month or twice a month?

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:43] <robbmunson> bodhizazen, and move us to a different room as well

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:47] <digitalvectorz> i think there are multiple concepts going on in my head atm

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:47] <bodhizazen> twice a month digitalvectorz

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:48] <nhandler> digitalvectorz: Twice a month

[Tues Apr 7 23:49:58] <jamesrfla> although I like of topic :P

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:3] <lukjad007> digitalvectorz, Technically, bi-monthly can be either, but in this case, twice a month

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:9] <bodhizazen> OK I will ask the staff for name change

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:13] <bodhizazen> UBT ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:14] <sdennie> bodhizazen: Isn't that bi-weekly?

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:17] <Vantrax> yer

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:19] <bodhizazen> Ubuntu Beginners Team ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:21] <Rocket2DMn> sdennie, its a dual definition

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:31] <jamesrfla> name change....oh snap

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:33] <lukjad007> No. I prefer the current name

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:33] <bodhizazen> NEW MEMBERS

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:35] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: yes, but lets vote on it first

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:39] <sdennie> Thus my confusion. I +1 every 2 weeks.

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:40] <st33med> Also, channel name change

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:45] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: i mean UBT, lets vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:49] <st33med> #ubuntu-beginners

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:57] <Rocket2DMn> ok name change later, new members now...

[Tues Apr 7 23:50:57] <lukjad007> -1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:2] <bodhizazen> .vote "Request name change to UBT?"

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:2] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: Request name change to UBT?

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:2] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:2] <Votebot> You can also /msg Votebot your vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:7] <bodhizazen> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:9] <lukjad007> -1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:9] <st33med> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:10] <Snova> -1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:10] <Vantrax> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:10] <nhandler> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:10] <Rocket2DMn> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:10] <JoshuaRL> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:12] <cprofitt> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:13] <jamesrfla> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:13] <tim_sharitt> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:18] <robbmunson> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:18] <Joeb454> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:19] <sdennie> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:20] <ibuclaw> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:22] <forestpixie> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:26] <bodhizazen> .vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:26] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: Request name change to UBT?

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:26] <Votebot> 17 People Voted. 10 People For. 2 People Against. 5 People Neutral.

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:28] <st33med> eats all -1

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:31] <digitalvectorz> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:35] <Vantrax> lol

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:35] <robbmunson> Votebot, lagging much?

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:36] <bodhizazen> can see the writing on the wall

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:39] <bodhizazen> yea

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:43] <jamesrfla> wait will we still work on the forums?

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:46] <bodhizazen> that is why I ended the vote early

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:48] <Snova> Of course.

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:48] <robbmunson> there we go

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:49] <Vantrax> jamesrfla, yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:56] <jgoguen> jamesrfla: of course

[Tues Apr 7 23:51:56] <jamesrfla> sweet

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:0] <bodhizazen> NEW MEMBERS ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:3] <Vantrax> just acknowladging that forums is not just one focus group

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:4] <lukjad007> Yes

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:10] <jamesrfla> laggy bot

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:10] <Vantrax> now just one

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:21] <jamesrfla> bodhizazen: my padawan keeps going up and down

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:27] <JoshuaRL> alright, new members

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:36] <forestpixie> lmao jamesrfla

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:39] <bodhizazen> I think jimi_hendrix is first

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:42] <st33med> =========================================================================================================

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:46] <lukjad007> Yes.

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:47] <bodhizazen> jimi_hendrix: wish to say anything ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:52] <JoshuaRL> st33med:

[Tues Apr 7 23:52:56] <bodhizazen> jamesrfla: twss

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:8] <jamesrfla> twss?

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:8] <forestpixie> heh

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:11] <jimi_hendrix> pong

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:18] <ibuclaw> haha bodhizazen

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:20] <jgoguen> !twss | jamesrfla

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:20] <Votebot> jamesrfla: That's what she said!

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:26] <zu22> lewl

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:28] <robbmunson> is gonna have to vote 0 on all, just a forewarning to the padawans....sorry i havent seen ya guys :/

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:30] <JoshuaRL> heh

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:32] <bodhizazen> .vote " jimi_hendrix for membership ?"

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:32] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: jimi_hendrix for membership ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:32] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:32] <Votebot> You can also /msg Votebot your vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:37] <cprofitt> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:37] <jimi_hendrix> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:38] <jgoguen> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:39] <Vantrax> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:40] <digitalvectorz> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:40] <bodhizazen> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:41] <nhandler> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:41] <JoshuaRL> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:42] <st33med> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:43] <lukjad007> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:43] <paultag> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:44] <jamesrfla> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:45] <sdennie> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:45] <tim_sharitt> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:45] <robbmunson> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:46] <jgoguen> jimi_hendrix: you're biased! :P

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:52] <jimi_hendrix> jgoguen, lol

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:53] <st33med> YAY

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:54] <robbmunson> ah well, majority, ill go with that :P

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:56] <bodhizazen> .vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:56] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: jimi_hendrix for membership ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:53:56] <Votebot> 17 People Voted. 17 People For. 0 People Against. 0 People Neutral.

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:5] <jimi_hendrix> w00t!

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:6] <digitalvectorz> jimi_hendrix: purple haze

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:7] <jamesrfla> lag

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:7] <lukjad007> jimi_hendrix, Congrats!

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:8] <JoshuaRL> UNANIMOUS

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:13] <bodhizazen> sorry to terminate these a little early, votebot lags

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:15] <jimi_hendrix> digitalvectorz, all in my brain

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:16] <nhandler> Welcome to the team jimi_hendrix

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:17] <Ash_R> Congratulations Jimi

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:17] <jimi_hendrix> lukjad007, thanks

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:21] <lukjad007>

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:22] <jimi_hendrix> thanks Nano_ext3

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:26] <jamesrfla> Welcome jimi_hendrix

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:29] <forestpixie> congrats jimi_hendrix

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:30] <digitalvectorz> jimi_hendrix: beginners team just don't seem the same

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:36] <bodhizazen> Joeb454: can you op and give access ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:37] <st33med> I don't think it lags, its that it isn't multithreaded

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:37] <jimi_hendrix> lol

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:43] <lukjad007> Heh digitalvectorz

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:49] <jimi_hendrix> digitalvectorz, its not that funny, but i dont know why

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:50] <jgoguen> I have to run...but I vote 0 for swoody (haven't seen him much) and +1 for zu22

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:53] <nhandler> st33med: ibuclaw was tinkering around with threads a while ago

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:55] <Joeb454> bodhizazen: to who?

[Tues Apr 7 23:54:55] <st33med> It has a hard time queuing stuff

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:10] <st33med> ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:10] <robbmunson> hides

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:11] <Rocket2DMn> eep

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:11] <ibuclaw> nhandler, I got it half working a while ago

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:12] <bodhizazen> Joeb454: new members

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:14] <st33med> OMGOMG

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:14] <lukjad007> RUN!

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:14] <jamesrfla> all hail Joeb454

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:15] <bodhizazen> I have a template

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:20] <jgoguen> bows before Joeb454

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:22] <jamesrfla> *** run Joeb454

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:27] <lukjad007> bows to Joeb454

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:28] <digitalvectorz> jimi_hendrix: scuse me while irssi dies

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:37] <Joeb454> all hail /me

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:37] <Joeb454> lol

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:40] <Rocket2DMn> ok lets keep moving with voting

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:42] <Vantrax> <- has to go to a work meeting

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:45] <nhandler> ibuclaw: I haven't seen any new version pushed to the VoteBot bzr branch

[Tues Apr 7 23:55:59] <robbmunson> nhandler, ive not done anything...

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:0] <ibuclaw> nhandler, I haven't really been keeping up...

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:0] <lukjad007> has to go to bed soon

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:6] <robbmunson> but yeah....

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:8] <zu22> plz dont forget me guys

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:8] <Vantrax> swoody also couldnt make it >.<

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:10] <bodhizazen> Joeb454: after you add them , kick them to test

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:11] <jamesrfla> who is next bodhizazen?

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:11] <zu22> i wait all night

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:15] <jimi_hendrix> digitalvectorz, rofl

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:18] <Vantrax> so make him next meeting

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:21] <jimi_hendrix> digitalvectorz, we need to make a song...

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:31] <st33med> jimi_hendrix, NEXT TIME

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:39] <bodhizazen> Next swoody ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:40] <zu22> ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:41] <st33med> NEW MEMBERS NEW MEMBERS GOGOGOGOGOGOG

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:49] <Snova_> I am taking a very dim view of GTK. I'll be back in a few minutes.

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:50] <jimi_hendrix> (i was thinking up "We Didnt Pirate Mandriva" to the tune of "We Didnt Start the FIre")

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:51] <bodhizazen> is swoody here now ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:56:54] <Vantrax> ^ Swoody couldnt make it, do him next time

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:4] <JoshuaRL> go for zuzu

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:7] <Joeb454> bodhizazen: the template doesn't seem to work for me,

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:9] <Rocket2DMn> we can vote on both of them

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:13] <bodhizazen> Vantrax: is he ready ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:17] <zu22> hi

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:20] <zu22> i am here

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:21] <Vantrax> yeah hes ready ->https://wiki.ubuntu.com/swoody

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:24] <Rocket2DMn> zu22, we wont forget yo uman

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:29] <zu22> ok

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:30] <ibuclaw> nhandler, what I was going to do was to keep the branch in sync with the main version, only have it in a completely different code structure.

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:38] <st33med> OMG

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:38] <lukjad007> Night all

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:39] <st33med> RUN

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:48] <jamesrfla> oh snap two of them RUN!!!!!!

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:51] <lukjad007> Bye.

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:53] <jimi_hendrix> when do i get voiced?

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:55] <Joeb454> starts op war

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:56] <st33med> bye

[Tues Apr 7 23:57:59] <Joeb454> jimi_hendrix: in a minute

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:0] <Vantrax> okies, i have to run guys, meeting starting in a min

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:2] <jimi_hendrix> ok

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:4] <jamesrfla> all hail bodhizazen and Joeb454

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:8] <ibuclaw> nhandler, then came a point where you were uploading so many fixes, I couldn't keep up with that.

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:9] <JoshuaRL> bye lukjad007

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:12] <digitalvectorz> nhandler and ibuclaw can you take dev stuff to ##beginners-dev during mtg?

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:12] <lukjad007> jimi_hendrix, Soon. See you in the morning or later

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:15] <bodhizazen>

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:29] <st33med> 2 MINUTES

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:30] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: you love doing that

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:33] <st33med> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:36] <zu22> i love using ubuntu and helping teach noobs and i been helping out on UF and also in IRC. more info on me here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/zu2

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:36] <nhandler> Are we voting on anyone else bodhizazen ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:38] <Ash_R> lukjad007: Bye

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:45] <lukjad007> Bye all

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:47] <zu22> nhandler: no one voted on me!

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:47] <Rocket2DMn> nhandler, yes, swoody and zu22

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:47] <jamesrfla> I like that congrats welcome to the team and then KICKED...lol

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:52] <jamesrfla> bodhizazen: zu22 please

[Tues Apr 7 23:58:59] <st33med> ...

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:2] <jamesrfla> ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:3] <st33med> voice?

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:10] <cprofitt> tick tick tick - next

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:13] <bodhizazen> .vote "swoody for membership ?"

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:13] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: swoody for membership ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:13] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:13] <Votebot> You can also /msg Votebot your vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:18] <JoshuaRL> welcome jimi_hendrix

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:18] <nhandler> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:18] <st33med> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:19] <cprofitt> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:20] <robbmunson> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:22] <jgoguen> hey I'm still here for it

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:23] <jimi_hendrix> JoshuaRL, hi

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:23] <bodhizazen> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:23] <tim_sharitt> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:25] <sdennie> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:26] <_Cloud_> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:27] <st33med> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:27] <digitalvectorz> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:28] <st33med> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:28] <ibuclaw> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:30] <st33med> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:31] <st33med> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:32] <st33med> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:34] <jamesrfla> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:35] <st33med> >.>

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:35] <lukjad007> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:36] <digitalvectorz> st33med: stop spamming

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:37] <bodhizazen> .vote

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:37] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: swoody for membership ?

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:37] <Votebot> 14 People Voted. 2 People For. 0 People Against. 12 People Neutral.

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:38] <JoshuaRL> +1

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:41] <paultag> 0

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:42] <JoshuaRL> dangs

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:48] <lukjad007> Congrats jimi_hendrix

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:49] <lukjad007> Bye

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:51] <bodhizazen> OK , keep swoody for next time then

[Tues Apr 7 23:59:57] <bodhizazen> Next zu22

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:12] <jimi_hendrix> lukthanks

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:29] <bodhizazen> too many neutrals

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:39] <bodhizazen> .vote " zu22 for membership ?"

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:39] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: zu22 for membership ?

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:39] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0

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[Wed Apr 8 0:0:41] <Joeb454> jimi_hendrix: are you identified to nickserv?

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:41] <robbmunson> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:42] <cprofitt> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:44] <st33med> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:45] <JoshuaRL> bodhizazen: yeah, and i did just to be nice. havent seen a WHOLE lot of him

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:46] <tim_sharitt> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:47] <JoshuaRL> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:47] <digitalvectorz> nhandler: does Votebot have a way to limit each user to 1 vote?

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:48] <jamesrfla> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:48] <jgoguen> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:53] <sdennie> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:54] <digitalvectorz> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:55] <nhandler> digitalvectorz: Yes

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:55] <jimi_hendrix> Joeb454, ya i am

[Wed Apr 8 0:0:57] <bodhizazen> digitalvectorz: yes

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:0] <robbmunson> digitalvectorz, it does that by default

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:5] <Joeb454> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:10] <Joeb454> jimi_hendrix: leave and rejoin

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:12] <nhandler> -> Dinner

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:13] <robbmunson> and theres no way around it...unless we change code :P

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:17] <st33med> I knew that, else I would not have done that

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:24] <jimi_hendrix> w00t

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:26] <st33med> duh duh duh

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:28] <jamesrfla> there we go

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:35] <Snova> \o/ j

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:37] <Snova> \o/ jimi_hendrix

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:38] <bodhizazen> .vote

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:38] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: zu22 for membership ?

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:38] <Votebot> 15 People Voted. 9 People For. 3 People Against. 3 People Neutral.

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:43] <st33med> WHO IS THAT GIRL

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:47] <robbmunson> Congrats

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:51] <bodhizazen> OK I have one to add

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:51] <jimi_hendrix> Snova, \o/

[Wed Apr 8 0:1:59] <bodhizazen> duanedesign: you up for it ?

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:5] <duanedesign> sure am

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:13] <JoshuaRL> duanedesign: got a wiki page?

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:14] <jamesrfla> duanedesign: wiki or something?

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:19] <bodhizazen> .vote " duanedesign for membership ?"

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:19] <Votebot> We Are Now Voting On: duanedesign for membership ?

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:19] <Votebot> Vote with +1, -1, or 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:19] <Votebot> You can also /msg Votebot your vote

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:20] <Rocket2DMn> been quizzed?

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:21] <duanedesign> yes

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:22] <zu22> what happen??

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:22] <digitalvectorz> okay, nvm that...i miscounted..

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:23] <bodhizazen> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:25] <cprofitt> +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:29] <bodhizazen> duanedesign: went the dark path

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:31] <Joeb454> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:33] <robbmunson> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:37] <Joeb454> zu22: bye

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:37] <sdennie> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:40] <digitalvectorz> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:41] <zu22> what was the result of my vote? i was kicked before i saw the vote tally

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:42] <paultag> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:47] <JoshuaRL> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:52] <Rocket2DMn> dude Joeb454 he had voice

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:54] <zu22> ?

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:54] <Snova> Joeb454: He already was...

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:54] <robbmunson> yes

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:55] <bodhizazen> zu you are a member

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:57] <tim_sharitt> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:2:57] <robbmunson> it was zu22

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:1] <jamesrfla> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:1] <digitalvectorz> grats zu22

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:1] <jimi_hendrix> yeay!

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:2] <zu22> plz paste me the vote result

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:3] <Joeb454> meh

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:4] <_Cloud_> 0

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:5] <robbmunson> congrats zu22

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:6] <JoshuaRL> zu22: youre a team member dude

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:7] <zu22> i wanna see who voteed for me

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:9] <zu22> cool

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:14] <robbmunson> zu22, it was way high bro....

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:18] <zu22> joeb why u vote 0? lol u know me for 6 months

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:20] <zu22> anyways

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:23] <zu22> oh cool

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:25] <zu22> YAY

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:32] <Joeb454> zu22: I've not seen you around

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:36] <JoshuaRL> zu22: [19:01] <Votebot> 15 People Voted. 9 People For. 3 People Against. 3 People Neutral.

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:39] <zu22> i am honored and proud to be a member

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:41] <Joeb454> and I need to pay more attention to these votes clearly

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:44] <bodhizazen> zu no more religion stuff in this channel, too divisive

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:44] <zu22> joeb454: umm ok lol

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:45] <Ash_R> zu22: Congratulations

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:45] <JoshuaRL> zu22: GET TO WORK

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:47] <_Purple_> congrats zu22 jimi_hendrix

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:50] <bodhizazen> you brought it up :p

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:53] <bodhizazen> .vote

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:53] <Votebot> We Are Done Voting On: duanedesign for membership ?

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:53] <Votebot> 14 People Voted. 3 People For. 0 People Against. 11 People Neutral.

[Wed Apr 8 0:3:54] <paultag> bodhizazen: for sure

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:7] <zu22> bodhizazne: lolwut? dude i not preach to anyone, paultag and me was have discussion at his leading

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:8] <jimi_hendrix> _Purple_, thanks

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:15] <zu22> i do not proselitize

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:19] <zu22> u can ask anyone whyo know me on irc

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:20] <paultag> zu22: you started it with the praise jesus

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:24] <jamesrfla> oh snap

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:25] <zu22> paultag: WUT!?

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:30] <zu22> i never said that

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:31] <jamesrfla> so that is what happens when I send to much to one person

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:33] <paultag> zu22: do you really want me to get the logs

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:36] <bodhizazen> zu22: this is not open for discussion

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:38] <zu22> paultag: YES

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:46] <zu22> i never did anything wrong

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:49] <bodhizazen> I just want to make it clear to you as you brought it up

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:50] <digitalvectorz> How bout we /religion-chat

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:50] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, did he get in and swoody did not?

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:52] <paultag> zu22: also no all caps. It is not becoming of a member

[Wed Apr 8 0:4:57] <bodhizazen> This is not a religion channel, period

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:1] <bodhizazen> too divisive

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:1] <zu22> no i never brought it up, i only responded to what paultag said

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:8] <digitalvectorz> oy vey.

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:14] <zu22> tell paultag to not bring it up then

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:16] <paultag> zu22: ill get the logs

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:18] <zu22> i just reply him honestly

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:33] <digitalvectorz> can we vote to remove preachers from the UBT?

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:33] <bodhizazen> zu22: this is not open for discussion

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:35] <digitalvectorz> o.O

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:37] <forestpixie> we got any more voting to do

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:45] <bodhizazen> we can vote to remove zu22

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:45] <jamesrfla> zu22: I send them to you

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:52] <Rocket2DMn> Ok, I think we just have a misunderstanding....

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:54] <digitalvectorz> +!

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:57] <JoshuaRL> jeez, everyone just have a chill

[Wed Apr 8 0:5:58] <cprofitt> bodhizazen, did duane make it or not?

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:4] <bodhizazen> yes cprofitt

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:10] <Joeb454> Rocket2DMn: +1

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:14] <cprofitt> the vote was the same as Swoody's so I just wanted to be sure...

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:17] <paultag> crap I lost my logs. JoshuaRL do you have logs?

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:26] <paultag> JoshuaRL: can you pastebin todays to me?

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:29] <st33med> hands paultag dead tree

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:30] <Rocket2DMn> Votebot, will have logs, they will be posted as always

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:31] <jamesrfla> calm down it was a big long meeting. Everybody just chill you know....

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:31] <Hellow> I have logs

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:35] <JoshuaRL> paultag: yeah

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:38] <robbmunson> ok, everyone chill and if you have arguments/misunderstandings with others bring it to private please so that we can just do the meeting without the BS. Thanks

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:39] <bodhizazen> indeed, the topic of religion came up earlier today and the conversation was frankly inappropriate for this channel

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:43] <paultag> JoshuaRL: thanks mate

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:56] <bodhizazen> any other team busnissed

[Wed Apr 8 0:6:59] <bodhizazen> businness

[Wed Apr 8 0:7:10] <Rocket2DMn> Nope

[Wed Apr 8 0:7:16] <bodhizazen> I wanted that statement to be a part of the meeting logs

[Wed Apr 8 0:7:36] <bodhizazen> OMG, I have to run

[Wed Apr 8 0:7:39] <bodhizazen> .meeting

[Wed Apr 8 0:7:39] <Votebot> =-=-=Meeting mode disabled=-=-=

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