## page was renamed from ArizonaTeam/Meetings/MeetingTemplate <> ## Delete the below line after the meeting has been held or the Agenda otherwise finalized. If you have additions to the Agenda, please post them here after confirming with [[Johnc4510]] or [[IanMcewen]] == Agenda == 1. Introductions 1. Team Reports a. [[ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education|Education Team]] a. [[ArizonaTeam/Teams/Server|Server Team]] == Log == This will be posted after the meeting. ## Put the irc log into {{{ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:00:34] * johnc4510 greetings, is everyone ready for the meeting? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:00:42] _NoX_ is a Xerox copy, slightly stretched in various directions and only in black and white, to avoid being a direct copy. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:00:44] Yep [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:00:45] ready [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:20] and I'm actually on time tonight [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:26] * johnc4510 needs more spirit [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:28] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:39] READY, SIR!!! [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:43] That better? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:47] much [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:50] LOL [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:54] let's go [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:54] ok [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:01:56] SIR, YES SIR [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:03] * johnc4510 meeting is on [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:15] any new members to introduce? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:49] doesn't look like it [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:50] We could always introduce _NoX_'s pale copy [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:53] so [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:02:59] team this is _NoX_ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:02] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:08] anyway [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:13] announcements [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:28] * johnc4510 I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:30] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:38] lots of family and friends [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:03:42] and food [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:12] ok, lets talk about the main server page [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:14] please [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:29] enigmastrat: have you made any revisions yet? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:36] no... :( [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:47] kk [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:48] I hosted thanksgiving this year [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:04:54] http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:02] i put what we had up on the server [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:04] and [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:12] did some page revision [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:16] and add the links [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:33] so everyone take a couple of minutes to look over [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:47] then we can discuss what your thoughts are [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:48] I'm glad you could decode my code [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:05:54] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:06:10] i just added things [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:06:15] not too hard [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:06:42] what's all this? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:06:51] mindrape: team meeting [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:00] I'll be changing it to 1000 wide and modifying the right border [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:16] mindrape: you are new, so we'd like you to introduce yourself please [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:27] just a couple of lines basics [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:33] My name is mindrape... :::waves::: [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:35] enigmastrat: cool [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:40] * tyche waves back [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:07:41] * johnc4510 waves back [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:06] mindrape: how long have you been using Ubuntu? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:17] I've been a linux user for over 10 years... Ubuntu for the past 2-ish years [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:23] nice [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:25] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:37] what part of az you from? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:43] I'm near downtown Phoenix. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:49] excellent [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:55] about 10-15 to the airport depending on traffic. :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:08:56] tyche: he's for you [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:14] I see that. Welcome mindrape [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:16] mindrape: welcome to the team [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:19] we've got this valley covered [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:24] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:40] enigmastrat: what are you thoughts about what i added? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:45] nice... I also work in North Phoenix and am often in Ahwatukee and the Easy Valley (Mesa/Gilbert/Queen Creek) visiting family and friends. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:09:53] and changed [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:10:12] mindrape: cool [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:10:31] so... content is just fine [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:10:38] mindrape: our new server is what we are discussing: http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:10:54] enigmastrat: any ideas on further content? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:11:20] hmmm... I'm not the content go to guy, but any and all info is good [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:11:38] kk [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:11:40] Join Theou has joined this channel (n=Mark@ip68-2-98-154.ph.ph.cox.net). [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:11:57] i was wondering if we should add some web buttons [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:02] johnc4510: I know we aren't on track for being a recognized Team, yet, but what else do we need to do? Should that be listed on the page? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:13] like: spread firefox and thunderbird [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:15] etc [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:34] ahh [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:37] tyche: not on that page [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:40] but [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:47] I just deleted my question because you answered it [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:12:54] that would be great [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:13:03] i had already planned to start bringing the wiki up to date this next wk [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:13:41] I just thought that it would be a bit of a reminder to the team of where we are, and where we need to go. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:10] kk, I'm not against it [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:30] After all, web pages aren't cast in concrete. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:41] I guess it comes down to what we want the purpose of this page to be [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:46] (Though I've seen some that should be sunk with concrete. Hee hee) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:52] how about once i get the wiki page straightened out we link to it from the server page? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:14:56] it can point to the wiki for team info [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:15:03] I see it as an introduction to the Team. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:15:37] and with the link an explanation of the purpose of team approval [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:15:38] ? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:15:53] Yea, that would be good, too [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:19] it would be like another paragraph below what we have, with a link [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:20] ? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:42] Paragraph, or just lines with check boxes showing what's done. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:55] kk, that's a thought too [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:56] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:16:58] ty [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:17:03] NP [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:17:33] tyche: what are your thoughts about the web buttons i mentioned above? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:17:52] there are all kinds of them out there [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:16] gnome, firefox, thunderbird, etc [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:22] xfce [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:22] apache [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:26] sure [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:38] (Why do I get the feeling that I just got myself another job? LOL) That's not bad, either. Also OO.o. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:54] nope on the extra work [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:18:55] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:18] slofgren or myself can handle that [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:27] Like, "Try it, you'll like it!" [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:28] lol... why do I feel this girl I made out with for 3 hours last night isn't returning my calls and hates me? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:48] mindrape: techique [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:19:54] Hee hee [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:20:14] seriously... my game is seriously lacking. I can easily get a first, second, and third date... hitting the nani just is not in my bag of tricks. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:20:22] http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:20:35] they have a few there to give you an idea [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:20:58] image links [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:21] those are good to have [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:23] they give the page some peezaz i think [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:27] Image links are good. You need to keep the graphics the same size, relative to eachother. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:42] we can gimp them [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:21:53] Yep [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:22:13] I especially want the Ohio Linuxfest on our page [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:22:15] If you're going that route, you could add the Ubuntu one(s) too. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:22:49] I see Ohio is behind the times. (Oh, shoot! Vorian isn't in channel tonight. hee hee) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:22:51] enigmastrat: you and me both, i've had some ideas on an AZ LinuxFest for the future :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:23:05] tyche: :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:23:50] kk, any other ideas [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:23:51] ? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:24:12] I think we're on the right track [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:24:32] kk, then on to the ed team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:24:37] now [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:13] tyche and I didn't do anything this wk, because we about killed ourselves last wk getting some of it up to date [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:17] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:20] but [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:40] we still need to do something about the email support we discussed [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:55] we had talked about gmail [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:25:56] and [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:01] the team mailing list [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:17] johnc4510: How do other teams handle it? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:25] hmmmm [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:45] we should check out ohio, they have a support deal going [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:26:57] let me look for the page real quick [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:00] maybe some of the others, too. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:17] man, you and I are on the same wavelength tonight john [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:35] not reinventing the whell sounds good [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:44] You bet [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:27:50] http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/locosupport/add [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:28:10] They've got a call back system [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:28:36] i just invited vorian [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:28:39] to channel [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:28:57] Join vorian has joined this channel (n=vorian@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian). [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:03] hey hey [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:06] hello [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:07] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:21] vorian: how does your team handle the support [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:24] email wise [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:33] via mailing list [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:29:36] i know you use phone support [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:00] so this:http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/locosupport/add is tied into team mail list? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:01] no one ever submits request for help, so it's kind of hard to know really :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:10] ah [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:30] we did have a team set up to channel the requests [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:30:56] so, why no requests do you think? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:01] but with a lack of support requests, the idea has really lost focus [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:10] hmm [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:17] How about other teams? Do they have the same lack of requests? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:19] exposure? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:28] at the end of the day, people don't want to be blabbing on the phone [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:37] ah [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:47] tyche: jacob from our team wrote that module for our site [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:48] what if you speak in an indian accent? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:31:53] would straight email be better vorian ? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:01] then that's extra $$ enigmastrat [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:10] yeah, mailing list [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:12] irc [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:12] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:13] johnc4510: We may be over-working this then. Maybe what we need to do is just direct them to the forums. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:30] or use it for in house direction [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:32:35] in team that is [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:01] vorian: does KY have a support arm of their team? if you know [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:22] no idea [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:24] sorry [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:36] kk ty for your knowledge :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:33:48] Yes, thanks for your help [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:20] * johnc4510 ok, well i see nothing wrong with providing some team support for new members with this do you? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:46] Join rrbiz has joined this channel (n=Miranda@ip68-228-44-25.tc.ph.cox.net). [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:54] but maybe pull back a bit on the original idea [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:55] ? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:34:57] tyche: ? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:35:15] Team members can always jump on IRC and get us. It was outsiders that I was originally thinking about. But it looks like I was looking for something that isn't there. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:35:47] maybe, but let's not scrap it all just yet [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:35:53] outsiders might have a problem finding the page [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:35:54] do some thinking on it maybe [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:00] paul928: true [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:12] Nope. But definitely think about it. We could put up a link to the Forum main page. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:18] that's why I asked if exposure was a problem [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:41] i wonder if ohio linked it on the forum page with a sticky [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:46] just googled ubuntu arizona, doesn't show the page yet [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:36:54] we get a lot of lookers on that site [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:27] paul928: probably not until we set the domain name to azloco like we want [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:32] ArizonaTeam - Ubuntu Wiki [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:32] They will assist you in registering at launchpad, to the ubuntu-us-az ... We have completed our first goal of getting the Ubuntu-Arizona LoCo Team up and ... [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam - 18k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:32] the server site/ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:51] it's there [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:37:54] We need to let people know that they're not alone, but maybe the forums is the best place to send them. More people available, and more expertise. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:00] ubuntu arizona [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:18] jsonder: yes, i was meaning we should add the support portion of the ed team stuff [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:26] but not the server site [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:34] I'll take calls fron the Tucson area [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:45] jsonder: kk [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:38:54] ty [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:39:20] ok, lets all think about this for another wk, and see what comes to mind then OK? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:39:46] paul928: yes we can link it on the server site too if we want [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:39:47] OK [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:39:53] I generally get ~2 call per monthh about linux from the Green Valley guys [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:40:00] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:40:27] kk, does anyone have anything else they want to bring up ?? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:40:59] memory is cheap; I got 2 gig for my notebook for under $60 from Crucial [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:04] k, enigmastrat let me know when you've got any revisions for the server [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:14] ok [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:18] * johnc4510 meeting over and thanks folks [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:20] !! [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:22] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:41:48] johnc4510, have we had calls for help? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:42:02] no [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:42:16] we really haven't started it yet [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:42:47] these are just opening dicussions now that we have the ed team pages started [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:42:51] I've tried to talk people thru installlation questions [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:17] I'll do the installation on a "spare" desktop [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:23] Quit enigmastrat has left this server ("Ex-Chat"). [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:26] jsonder: i put a good link to installing on the main ed team page [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:38] check it out [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:43] please [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:43:43] OK [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:44:52] http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu_gutsy_gibbon [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:44:56] that assumes that ubuntu is already installed [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:04] screenshots and everything [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:15] not the upgrade one [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:19] the install one [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:34] whoopsie: I was here: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:45] ah [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:46] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:45:52] that's the upgrade one [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:46:54] Now is this from the wiki? The web page seems to be all links, which is good [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:47:01] jsonder: look around at what tyche and i did to the ed team page when you get a chance. give us some ideas [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:47:10] jsonder: no [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:47:12] OK [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:47:33] we used some already in place things where they were better [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:48:29] and if they saved us some time also [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:49:29] I'm bloody lost, as usual. The wiki az page I can get to; is this where you changed links ? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:50:02] no [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:50:22] here:http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com/ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:50:23] Arg! [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:50:49] OK [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:51:02] Two different jobs, jsonder. The link johnc4510 just gave you is the Team Server page. the one we were talking about that johnc4510 and I changed was the Edu page. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:51:13] we did a lot of changes also to the ed team pages here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Education [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:51:37] added a bunch of sub pages to it [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:52:18] johnc4510-why the strange url...http://ubuntuaz.selfip.com// [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:52:37] Because we aren't DNS'ed yet [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:52:38] paul928: it's just a temp set up [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:52:55] until domain name is set up [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:53:01] azloco.org [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:53:07] is what it will be [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:53:38] OK, but, when I go there, I get linked to the wiki for ed, etc. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:53:41] just checked....ubuntuaz.com.org.net,etc are all available [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:08] how about postmyplates.com? [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:22] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:37] jsonder: i guess i'm not understanding then [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:40] :( [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:42] sorry [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:49] vorian: What plates? You in the counterfitting business?? LOL [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:55] lol [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:54:57] we haven't put in any links for support yet [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:04] no [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:10] jsonder: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:21] The links from the selfip web page go to the az wiki pages [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:30] yes [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:38] we agree [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:49] so the server page ties into the wiki pages [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:57] kk [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:55:59] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:11] motorcycles are easier [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:13] IRC is sometimes confussing:) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:15] yes [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:17] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:28] fussing? OK [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:34] sure [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:56:43] we like fussing [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:07] I'll peak and send an e-mail to both of you once I've actually had time to look at things. [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:13] And johnc4510 is the fussiest here. Hee hee [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:29] jsonder: great [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:32] :) [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:37] good night [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:42] night [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:57:46] and ty [Sun Nov 25 2007] [21:58:02] Quit vorian has left this server. }}} ---- '''Parent pages:''' [[ArizonaTeam/Meetings]] [[ArizonaTeam]] ---- CategoryArizonaTeam