<> == Agenda == 1. Introductions 1. Announcements 1. Team Reports 1. Team Approval Outline 1. Agenda for next week == Log == {{{ Jun 10 21:02:51 * johnc4510 calls meeting to order if no objections Jun 10 21:03:00 I am here Jun 10 21:03:19 I won't be around for the next 10 min though Jun 10 21:03:29 * johnc4510 as if jacob_ would introduce himself please Jun 10 21:03:31 putting kids to bed Jun 10 21:03:31 * jacob_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jun 10 21:03:31 slofgren_: k Jun 10 21:03:42 bbl 10min Jun 10 21:03:48 great he lost his connection Jun 10 21:03:58 that sux Jun 10 21:04:04 jacob__: you there? Jun 10 21:04:26 Is he dial up? Jun 10 21:04:31 Might take a minute. Jun 10 21:04:31 not sure Jun 10 21:04:38 hmm Jun 10 21:04:55 * johnc4510 says we will move on to announcements and come back to jacob__ Jun 10 21:05:01 im trying to update my xubuntu machine, and it says the linux headers are not authenticated? Jun 10 21:05:05 1st announcement Jun 10 21:05:09 kk Jun 10 21:05:10 start Jun 10 21:05:32 bluecat9 has set up server for gtetrinet Jun 10 21:05:42 * jacob_ (n=jacob@ip68-106-243-206.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Jun 10 21:05:44 server address is Jun 10 21:05:59 tetrinet.penguinized.net Jun 10 21:06:09 for all that want to play Jun 10 21:06:19 thanks bluecat9 Jun 10 21:06:24 ty bluecat9 Jun 10 21:06:30 thanks Jun 10 21:06:30 jacob_: you here now Jun 10 21:06:36 i hope so Jun 10 21:06:36 so we are not going to be using ian's anymore Jun 10 21:06:37 ? Jun 10 21:06:53 jacob_: could you please give yourself a short intro Jun 10 21:06:54 ty Jun 10 21:07:15 um, i am fairly new to linux. i used suse about 2 years ago Jun 10 21:07:33 cool Jun 10 21:07:40 i have a server up with ubuntu and ubuntu/kububtu on my laptop Jun 10 21:08:00 alright Jun 10 21:08:08 I live in gilbert and work in phoenix Jun 10 21:08:08 nice Jun 10 21:08:22 i also go to ASU and my little brother is going to UofA next semester Jun 10 21:08:36 i see a lot of you are from tucson Jun 10 21:08:41 yep Jun 10 21:08:46 <- from tucson Jun 10 21:08:52 yes but phoenix is growing in membership Jun 10 21:08:54 im trying to get him converted to linux too Jun 10 21:08:59 :) Jun 10 21:09:29 * johnc4510 says if that's all welcome to jacob_ glad you're here :) Jun 10 21:09:41 welcome jacob_ Jun 10 21:09:45 welcome Jun 10 21:09:48 thank you Jun 10 21:09:51 on to next announcement then Jun 10 21:09:53 welcome jacob_ Jun 10 21:10:07 * jacob__ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jun 10 21:10:16 I added a link on main wiki page to the new fullcirclemag Jun 10 21:10:17 huh? Jun 10 21:10:26 nvm Jun 10 21:10:34 also Jun 10 21:11:04 * johnc4510 says we got ok for cafepress use of logo Jun 10 21:11:13 nice Jun 10 21:11:18 cafepress is cool :D Jun 10 21:11:26 Ian McEwen Jun 10 21:11:26 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Jun 10 21:11:26 From: Marilize Coetzee < trademarks@ubuntu.com> Jun 10 21:11:26 Date: Jun 7, 2007 6:14 AM Jun 10 21:11:26 Subject: Re: AZ LoCo team request for use of a logo Jun 10 21:11:26 To: Ian McEwen Jun 10 21:11:26 Hi Ian Jun 10 21:11:26 You have permission to use our trademark, as long as it is to benefit Jun 10 21:11:26 your Loco Team and community, and not for commercial gain. Jun 10 21:11:26 Please adhere to the following logo rules: Jun 10 21:11:26 The Ubuntu logo and name are registered trademarks of Canonical. We're Jun 10 21:11:26 happy to grant permission for you to use the logo under the following Jun 10 21:11:26 conditions: Jun 10 21:11:26 (a) You observe the logo usage rules described on our website at: Jun 10 21:11:26 http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy ; Jun 10 21:11:26 (b) Somewhere on the product you recognise that Ubuntu is a trademark Jun 10 21:11:26 of Canonical Limited. Jun 10 21:11:26 The logo usage rules basically boil down to "use the logo as is - Jun 10 21:11:26 don't change it" and I don't expect they should cause you any Jun 10 21:11:26 trouble. Jun 10 21:11:26 Kind regards Jun 10 21:11:26 Marilize Jun 10 21:11:47 got email from ian today forwarded Jun 10 21:11:57 so we can start on that now also Jun 10 21:12:00 :) Jun 10 21:12:12 wootsause Jun 10 21:12:18 nice Jun 10 21:12:30 * johnc4510 asks if anyone has heard from rsthree? Jun 10 21:12:32 very nice indeed Jun 10 21:12:46 havent spoke with him or azteech in a while Jun 10 21:12:55 so you just have to stick a litle (c) or something on it? Jun 10 21:12:55 or a tm Jun 10 21:12:58 hmm Jun 10 21:13:06 ok next item Jun 10 21:13:24 might be on vacation Jun 10 21:13:26 I'm on agenda of Community Council for Ubuntu Membership Jun 10 21:13:48 ? Jun 10 21:13:48 I have vorian and atoponce and etank standing up for me Jun 10 21:14:05 SloggerKhan: it is a requirement for team approval Jun 10 21:14:11 ah Jun 10 21:14:12 that works Jun 10 21:14:12 Oh, OK. Jun 10 21:14:14 * dx00 (n=ssjgolle@wsip-70-166-106-109.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Jun 10 21:14:19 I wasn't sure what that meant. Jun 10 21:14:28 me either :D Jun 10 21:14:30 I also need members of team to be there if possible Jun 10 21:14:39 time and channel? Jun 10 21:14:39 when is it? Jun 10 21:14:47 hi all Jun 10 21:14:52 council has not set meeting yet, Jun 10 21:14:55 hey dx00 Jun 10 21:15:00 Hi dx00 Jun 10 21:15:01 will inform all when they do Jun 10 21:15:07 kk Jun 10 21:15:16 are you guys still going for membership now? Jun 10 21:15:25 I would appreciated as many as possible Jun 10 21:15:28 thanks Jun 10 21:15:43 slofgren_: yes Jun 10 21:15:53 going to talk about tonight Jun 10 21:15:56 :) Jun 10 21:16:02 well, if I can make it, I will show. Jun 10 21:16:07 johnc4510: imo it seems too soon Jun 10 21:16:34 slofgren_: too soon for what? Jun 10 21:16:40 team approval? Jun 10 21:16:43 team membership Jun 10 21:16:45 yeah Jun 10 21:16:55 we can discuss it later though Jun 10 21:17:04 slofgren_: that won't be until august Jun 10 21:17:25 slofgren_: what i was talking about was ubuntu membership for me Jun 10 21:17:33 ok sorry Jun 10 21:17:46 I stil want to talk about it though Jun 10 21:17:47 one team member must be an ubuntu member to apply for team membership Jun 10 21:17:49 later Jun 10 21:17:52 we will Jun 10 21:17:57 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Approval%20Outline Jun 10 21:18:10 there is link to outline for team approval Jun 10 21:18:20 who is going for that? Jun 10 21:18:37 for team approval? Jun 10 21:18:40 that link is for team approval in august Jun 10 21:18:54 what we need to accomplish Jun 10 21:19:00 between now and then Jun 10 21:19:02 no what member Jun 10 21:19:11 slofgren_: i am up Jun 10 21:19:16 ok Jun 10 21:20:08 slofgren_: anyone can apply but you have to show certain qualifications Jun 10 21:20:24 examples of said qualifications? Jun 10 21:20:25 yeah. I was just wondering who Jun 10 21:20:35 maybe just link Jun 10 21:20:41 yes hand on Jun 10 21:20:47 hang Jun 10 21:21:01 lol Jun 10 21:21:17 johnc4510: sorry to be getting you off track Jun 10 21:21:31 * slofgren_ is now known as slofgren Jun 10 21:21:37 * johnc4510 says here is qualifications for individual http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember/ Jun 10 21:21:47 cool i check that out Jun 10 21:21:59 thanks johnc4510 Jun 10 21:22:08 and here is my wiki page i put in for approval https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Johnc4510?action=show Jun 10 21:22:13 johnc4510, if I can make a recommendation real quick Jun 10 21:22:23 br24: go Jun 10 21:22:41 I recommend everyone who hasnt done so already become an Ubuntero Jun 10 21:22:53 what is that/ Jun 10 21:22:56 I think I am already. Jun 10 21:23:15 * johnc4510 yes that is good idea it is listed first on linked page and requires only signing code of conduct Jun 10 21:23:16 I have signed up for so many things in the last couple weeks i dont know if I have or not Jun 10 21:23:18 :) Jun 10 21:23:26 ubuntero? Jun 10 21:23:31 * tapH20guru (n=sbarber@wsip-24-249-169-46.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Jun 10 21:23:33 oh Jun 10 21:23:38 * johnc4510 says now we need to get back to topic Jun 10 21:23:40 please Jun 10 21:23:41 ty Jun 10 21:23:42 which linked page tho. Jun 10 21:23:44 real fast Jun 10 21:23:51 the qualification one? Jun 10 21:23:58 http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember/ Jun 10 21:24:03 kk Jun 10 21:24:25 continue =) Jun 10 21:24:33 br24: good idea Jun 10 21:24:37 * johnc4510 say now we need to discuss this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Approval%20Outline Jun 10 21:25:06 * johnc4510 asks all to take a few and look over please Jun 10 21:25:08 * tapH20guru (n=sbarber@wsip-24-249-169-46.ph.ph.cox.net) has left #ubuntu-arizona ("Ex-Chat") Jun 10 21:25:16 * tapH20guru (n=sbarber@wsip-24-249-169-46.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Jun 10 21:25:23 hey all Jun 10 21:25:24 tapH20guru: howdy Jun 10 21:25:41 yo Jun 10 21:25:42 in meeting looking over this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Approval%20Outline Jun 10 21:27:00 Boy, some feedback for me hidden there. Jun 10 21:27:07 * johnc4510 says we need to discuss if this is ok Note: dates in marketing portion are out need to revise that Jun 10 21:27:15 SloggerKhan: naw Jun 10 21:27:17 :_ Jun 10 21:27:21 :) Jun 10 21:27:27 that's alot of stuff Jun 10 21:27:33 thats incomplete yeah Jun 10 21:27:36 SloggerKhan: just that you were already working on Jun 10 21:28:07 * johnc4510 says we just need to discuss if fisable or not Jun 10 21:28:26 * johnc4510 says revisions to dates forthcoming Jun 10 21:29:13 johnc4510: I think we need to lay down some more experiance though Jun 10 21:29:14 * johnc4510 says that these don't need to be completed projects, just working projects that show progress Jun 10 21:29:21 the server will provide some of that Jun 10 21:29:22 ah ok Jun 10 21:29:26 slofgren: yes Jun 10 21:29:56 * johnc4510 says these will be ongoing projects for team from now on Jun 10 21:30:07 I would also like to see our focus change a bit on how we contribut to the community and our roll in helping the end user Jun 10 21:30:37 slofgren: ok, part of these projects will do that i think Jun 10 21:30:45 unless you have other ideas Jun 10 21:30:46 ? Jun 10 21:30:49 I do Jun 10 21:30:51 side note: this wiki page shouldn't really have "I'm going to..." I'm not sure who "I" is Jun 10 21:30:54 I have several Jun 10 21:31:05 tapH20guru: i is me Jun 10 21:31:14 tapH20guru: i wrote page Jun 10 21:31:16 lets talk them over this next week though johnc4510 Jun 10 21:31:18 lol... then put "john" :) Jun 10 21:31:31 tapH20guru: ok Jun 10 21:31:49 * johnc4510 asks what people think? Jun 10 21:32:01 br24: what about you Jun 10 21:32:24 i possibly have a comp to donate Jun 10 21:32:28 to this comp4kids or whatever Jun 10 21:32:34 i just need to upgrade it a bit Jun 10 21:32:36 Polygon89: good talk to SloggerKhan Jun 10 21:32:41 also - I think once we get our server up there could also be other sub-projects within that scope Jun 10 21:32:41 hmm sorry what page? Jun 10 21:32:46 64 mb of ram, 500mhz Jun 10 21:32:52 yeah it needs work ;) Jun 10 21:32:55 tapH20guru: we can add as we go Jun 10 21:32:59 k Jun 10 21:33:06 this is not the end of ideas Jun 10 21:33:07 1 thing with that, computers are great, but we need to establish a place to store them and work on them. Jun 10 21:33:14 I think these are definitely good ideas, we just need to start putting commitment to them and follow through Jun 10 21:33:15 more like a beginning Jun 10 21:33:21 * tapH20guru reminds SloggerKhan of my list of machines to donate Jun 10 21:33:23 br24: agreed Jun 10 21:33:34 dx00: you here Jun 10 21:33:34 I have an idea of what to do with the machines Jun 10 21:33:41 Yeah http://pastie.caboo.se/68448 ? Jun 10 21:33:43 SloggerKhan, well for now since i dont think we are going to have like 20 comps at any one time, we can give it to someone whos good with comps? Jun 10 21:33:47 yup Jun 10 21:34:07 then we can have them upgrade/fix them Jun 10 21:34:10 Polygon89: comp will stay in town where donated Jun 10 21:34:19 johnc4510, I like the idea bluecat9 proposed over a week ago Jun 10 21:34:20 that way no shipping them around Jun 10 21:34:27 That makes sense! Jun 10 21:34:35 about doing some form of user training Jun 10 21:34:38 well im sure there is someone in each town who is good with computers Jun 10 21:34:43 too bad we can't get a place to host machines in tuscon Jun 10 21:34:50 lets not focus on giving the machines away to end users Jun 10 21:34:59 * jacob__ (n=jacob@ip68-106-243-206.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Jun 10 21:35:01 lets focus on using them to support local ugs Jun 10 21:35:03 lugs Jun 10 21:35:07 to give away Jun 10 21:35:09 br24: that can be fit in with the support i think i put in the marketing paragraph Jun 10 21:35:22 or allow them to use for presentation or project Jun 10 21:35:27 maybe as loan Jun 10 21:35:30 I can't really follow all this. Jun 10 21:35:30 possibly johnc4510 Jun 10 21:35:45 so are we talking about giving them to local lugs or for the comps4kids thing Jun 10 21:35:46 y Jun 10 21:35:49 SlickMcRunfast: what do you think? Jun 10 21:35:55 yeah - which one? Jun 10 21:35:58 *Shrugs* Jun 10 21:35:59 johnc4510, the other thing I want to mention is deciding whether we would like to start using these other ideas from other teams Jun 10 21:36:08 someone link to the comps4kids Jun 10 21:36:15 br24: yes Jun 10 21:36:25 here is the wiki Jun 10 21:36:26 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Comps4Kids Jun 10 21:36:40 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Comps4Kids Jun 10 21:37:06 cool Jun 10 21:37:31 it just seems that we are an ubuntu awarness grop and not a local lug Jun 10 21:37:35 slofgren: idea on lugs good, but want to focus on comp4kids first Jun 10 21:37:38 ok Jun 10 21:37:49 we need to support lug growth and let them suport the user Jun 10 21:38:13 Tucson has tfug Jun 10 21:38:26 I can't say I am all for it though Jun 10 21:38:30 i suppose it also depends on how many machines we have to use / give away Jun 10 21:38:36 well, depends on how bad their need is for Jun 10 21:38:44 I am not agaist kids or families but I think this wil not be what you hop e it will Jun 10 21:38:44 slofgren: how does giving comps to lug support community Jun 10 21:38:45 johnc4510, another possible idea Jun 10 21:38:50 br24: yes Jun 10 21:38:54 the lug is the local support Jun 10 21:38:58 cause im sure the lugs have comps Jun 10 21:38:59 we are state wide Jun 10 21:39:01 * jacob_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) Jun 10 21:39:10 why not somebody go to one of these linux groups in Tucson Jun 10 21:39:24 we need to encourge local lugs to have hands on awarness Jun 10 21:39:28 br24: not a bad idea Jun 10 21:39:29 anyone got a link? Jun 10 21:39:36 I would be willing to Jun 10 21:39:38 i doubt i could go but still interestering Jun 10 21:39:39 we need to be at all the stae wide groups Jun 10 21:39:52 lets not forgwet to participate locally Jun 10 21:40:02 this is NOT a lug or replacment Jun 10 21:40:05 http://www.tfug.org/ Jun 10 21:40:12 but yeah, I agree, we are not a lug Jun 10 21:40:30 we need to focus on suportign lugs and buld more Jun 10 21:40:31 slofgren: yes, well, i just thought comp4kids would show better for team approval Jun 10 21:40:32 ? Jun 10 21:40:41 and through that build ubuntu Jun 10 21:40:45 I think there is no need to give lugs computers Jun 10 21:40:49 It seems kinda weird. Jun 10 21:40:56 yeah Jun 10 21:41:08 it might but I think we just need to do what might actully work better Jun 10 21:41:10 i mean these guys are kinda computer enthusiasts, im sure they have enough computers Jun 10 21:41:22 I don't care if we ever get team approval acually Jun 10 21:41:25 Most lug people have their own computers and mostly meet to hang out or troubleshoot and stuff. Jun 10 21:41:27 it would be nice Jun 10 21:41:40 and computers that are most likely a lot more powerful then the the ones we are going to be giving away Jun 10 21:41:40 I agree with SloggerKhan Jun 10 21:41:46 nto always Jun 10 21:41:47 not Jun 10 21:41:56 we need to help them be the local support Jun 10 21:42:15 * johnc4510 asks why we can't do both in time Jun 10 21:42:28 initially we could use some of the donations for a server or two and ubuntu demos machines Jun 10 21:42:30 ahaha Jun 10 21:42:39 who care if we get team approval what wil it actually do other than make us look better Jun 10 21:42:49 How do we know they are even interested in being local support? What does local even mean? Jun 10 21:42:57 *local support even mean? Jun 10 21:43:00 i agree with tapH20guru Jun 10 21:43:02 local - near by Jun 10 21:43:11 everyone, how about we get our foot in one door before thinking about entering another? Jun 10 21:43:21 slofgren: team approval means we are able to get bulk shipments of ubuntu cd's to distribute Jun 10 21:43:25 br24: like what one Jun 10 21:43:26 so which one are we focusing on first... we can do both in tme Jun 10 21:43:27 no questions asked Jun 10 21:43:38 either one can take time Jun 10 21:43:41 johnc4510: who cares I can dl all day and burn all night Jun 10 21:43:48 I think getting to a point where we can get lots of CDs is important. Jun 10 21:43:52 cd are near free any more Jun 10 21:44:00 so far, I like the comp4kids idea, we just need to get this going Jun 10 21:44:02 but then they come labeled and with a nice case Jun 10 21:44:07 But when they look official, it makes a difference. Jun 10 21:44:14 we can do both if we have a labeler somewhere Jun 10 21:44:24 no body is going to up and instal from some cd unless they have a hand to hold Jun 10 21:44:35 if they would then they are probably runing it Jun 10 21:44:38 Let's get on topic. Jun 10 21:44:39 * johnc4510 says we are going to have to burn ourselves until then Jun 10 21:44:44 This is getting tangental Jun 10 21:44:47 it that's a word. Jun 10 21:44:52 sounds like it Jun 10 21:44:52 I bet it's not. Jun 10 21:44:55 * johnc4510 calls for floor Jun 10 21:45:01 tangent means like next to something, but yeah on topic! Jun 10 21:45:17 * tapH20guru has to run... bye Jun 10 21:45:20 * tapH20guru has quit ("Outta Here!") Jun 10 21:45:22 * slofgren waits Jun 10 21:45:44 * johnc4510 says it seems that most want team approval and comp4kids to start that doesn't mean we can't work with lugs though Jun 10 21:46:03 * johnc4510 says anyone who disagrees please voice now Jun 10 21:46:03 i agree, since we already have a nice outline Jun 10 21:46:08 I agree. Jun 10 21:46:12 I agree Jun 10 21:46:14 i agree Jun 10 21:46:16 we can have someone make a outline for the LUG project Jun 10 21:46:24 I just wonder why. that is all. It seems self serving rather than pro active Jun 10 21:46:33 what all do we want to do with lug? Jun 10 21:46:38 i dunno Jun 10 21:46:44 slofgren: we are not blowing you off Jun 10 21:46:52 i am willing to do both Jun 10 21:47:00 everyone of you should be envolved with your local compuer club lug Jun 10 21:47:03 but team wants to start on other first Jun 10 21:47:06 sorry Jun 10 21:47:11 johnc4510: i think slofgren has some good points and i think we should really discuss what the Ubuntu Team Roll is Jun 10 21:47:14 in fact, having lug support would be a good thing Jun 10 21:47:31 we could have people to participate and see what they really want Jun 10 21:47:32 * johnc4510 says he agrees to lug support Jun 10 21:47:37 johnc4510: i think we should talk more about this in a defferent meeting Jun 10 21:47:43 * johnc4510 say he is not blowing this off Jun 10 21:47:46 dx00: I agree Jun 10 21:47:47 agenda for next week? Jun 10 21:48:01 specifically about lugs and stuff? Jun 10 21:48:02 johnc4510, if you think we should look at tfug, I will attend a meetiong Jun 10 21:48:03 * johnc4510 says he is not done yet please Jun 10 21:48:13 I think having a connection with them would be good, but it's important to remember tucson has more of a unix group than a lug Jun 10 21:48:27 But we should have a liason. Jun 10 21:48:28 thats why its called free unix group Jun 10 21:48:42 but that also includes linux, it specfically says "and unix-like" Jun 10 21:48:50 you guys are on track now :) Jun 10 21:48:54 * johnc4510 asks for floor again Jun 10 21:48:55 act local Jun 10 21:48:55 please Jun 10 21:49:04 However, we should have a liaison before we make plans including them. Jun 10 21:49:05 johnc4510: you have floor Jun 10 21:49:09 * slofgren steps back Jun 10 21:49:40 * johnc4510 says look everyone, these are not the only things we are going to work on Jun 10 21:49:53 * johnc4510 says ideas, all ideas are good Jun 10 21:50:05 slofgren: I think you should make a wiki about establishing a liason with TFUG. After doing that, then we can look at doing things including them. Jun 10 21:50:15 * johnc4510 says he is just trying to do what team has asked him to do Jun 10 21:50:21 SloggerKhan: col let johnc4510 have floor Jun 10 21:50:33 srry Jun 10 21:50:57 * johnc4510 says that these are just ideas to get team approval which all have wanted Jun 10 21:51:05 * johnc4510 asks if he is wrong Jun 10 21:51:10 no Jun 10 21:51:22 don't think so. Jun 10 21:51:23 nope Jun 10 21:51:25 I think team approval sould be our last focus though Jun 10 21:51:26 * johnc4510 says that we can do anything if we try Jun 10 21:51:36 * johnc4510 says slofgren has good ideas Jun 10 21:51:36 not our main focus Jun 10 21:52:04 * johnc4510 asks if team will approve his wiki on outline for team approval Jun 10 21:52:23 approved Jun 10 21:52:29 * johnc4510 says that this will be a lot of work for all Jun 10 21:52:36 I think it's OK. I am not best person to understand if it's correct or anything. Jun 10 21:52:36 I still need to read it all Jun 10 21:53:09 * johnc4510 says if approved he will set up a subpage for volunteers and material donations Jun 10 21:53:25 i have a question Jun 10 21:53:29 * johnc4510 says that he will donate 100 cd's to start Jun 10 21:53:34 Polygon89: go Jun 10 21:53:36 under experience it says we need 3 projects Jun 10 21:53:39 yes Jun 10 21:53:45 marketing, computer recycle and project #3 Jun 10 21:53:52 hold on Jun 10 21:53:52 what is the comp recycle and project #3? Jun 10 21:53:53 it doesnt say Jun 10 21:54:08 or is that comp4kids and ubuntu demos? Jun 10 21:54:10 I would like to seee lug envolment in our team aproval wiki Jun 10 21:54:26 lug/computer club/FOSS club Jun 10 21:54:39 Polygon89: you're on wrong page i think try this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/Teams/Approval%20Outline Jun 10 21:55:01 *nix club ... what ev Jun 10 21:55:22 we have to start taking an active roll in our local community. Jun 10 21:55:27 slofgren: how about you set up a overview and email it to me to look at and present to team Jun 10 21:55:27 our towns that we live in Jun 10 21:55:28 ? Jun 10 21:55:41 I could do that Jun 10 21:55:58 slofgren: we can try anything Jun 10 21:56:04 johnc4510, its the same page Jun 10 21:56:11 johnc4510, look under "experience" Jun 10 21:57:09 Polygon89: ah sorry i just need to edit the demos in sorry i missed that Jun 10 21:57:21 demos at bottom of wiki page Jun 10 21:57:27 ok Jun 10 21:57:29 that makes sense :D Jun 10 21:57:30 is third projec6t Jun 10 21:58:00 * johnc4510 asks again what everyone thinks? Jun 10 21:58:08 SlickMcRunfast: how about you? Jun 10 21:58:10 guys I am not trying to disrupt here. These are ideas I have been stewing about. I would like to make sure we are focusing our group properly. johnc4510 I am not trying to steal floor. Thanks for puttign up with my ideas Jun 10 21:58:12 i think it works well Jun 10 21:58:27 slofgren: np Jun 10 21:58:36 we can add the lug/whatever involvement under the team roadmap Jun 10 21:58:41 slofgren: as i said there are no bad ideas Jun 10 21:58:41 cause it is something we want to work on Jun 10 21:58:47 yes Jun 10 21:58:51 and since that is still incomplete Jun 10 21:58:54 we can add it quite easily Jun 10 21:58:59 * johnc4510 asks for floor again Jun 10 21:59:01 there are many bad ideas. you are just being nice Jun 10 21:59:43 * johnc4510 not at all slofgren this outline page is for our use only, we will have another wiki page outlining our team for team approval Jun 10 22:00:18 * johnc4510 says members in each town will be needed Jun 10 22:00:21 ok Jun 10 22:00:32 SlickMcRunfast: what about you will you help out Jun 10 22:00:37 for the project? Jun 10 22:00:44 yes Jun 10 22:00:47 kk Jun 10 22:00:50 projects Jun 10 22:01:05 * johnc4510 says we will have to interact Jun 10 22:01:29 with each other and each project Jun 10 22:01:29 i can work in either gilbert or phoenix or even mesa Jun 10 22:01:35 jacob__: ty Jun 10 22:01:53 hell, apache junction isnt to far either Jun 10 22:02:14 * johnc4510 asks if any other discussion or should we accept my proposal Jun 10 22:02:45 i have no further discussion Jun 10 22:02:50 * johnc4510 says to watch the outline wiki page to subpages add this wk Jun 10 22:03:10 * johnc4510 says for volunteers of time and material Jun 10 22:03:23 i can do a lot of printing at my work Jun 10 22:03:28 so paper and ink Jun 10 22:03:28 jacob__: ty Jun 10 22:03:42 and I can provide as much time as possible, I do work 8-5 though Jun 10 22:03:42 * johnc4510 asks for agenda points for next wk Jun 10 22:04:08 * johnc4510 asks if he has pissed everyone off? :) Jun 10 22:04:12 hee hee Jun 10 22:04:18 haha Jun 10 22:04:21 looks good Jun 10 22:04:24 i think the lug issue is big Jun 10 22:04:38 and what groups we should get with should be disscussed next week Jun 10 22:04:46 johnc4510: mad at you. I am sure I made you mad Jun 10 22:04:47 jacob__: if you want to work with slofgren on lug stuff ask him Jun 10 22:04:56 slofgren: not at all really Jun 10 22:04:58 :) Jun 10 22:04:59 johnc4510: you are a good Jun 10 22:05:04 ass Jun 10 22:05:10 :) Jun 10 22:05:15 hah Jun 10 22:05:20 I meant good guy Jun 10 22:05:22 bet ya to it Jun 10 22:05:24 ha ha Jun 10 22:05:25 ooops Jun 10 22:05:27 np Jun 10 22:05:30 heh Jun 10 22:05:32 lawl Jun 10 22:05:47 * johnc4510 asks for agenda items for next wk Jun 10 22:06:04 server? Jun 10 22:06:06 i think the projects, should be talked about Jun 10 22:06:22 good call slofgren Jun 10 22:06:22 br24: you want to discuss other loco ideas I know Jun 10 22:06:24 if not now, just to get started Jun 10 22:06:26 johnc: what am i helping with Jun 10 22:06:32 johnc4510, yes Jun 10 22:06:37 SlickMcRunfast: anything you want to Jun 10 22:06:44 SlickMcRunfast: please Jun 10 22:07:01 br24: i have not forgotten Jun 10 22:07:20 br24: marketing project is right out of ohio loco mostly Jun 10 22:07:21 roger that Jun 10 22:07:36 i know there are other things Jun 10 22:07:39 anyone here feel we are a Linux Tent Revival? Jun 10 22:07:46 sorry I am from the bible belt Jun 10 22:07:48 hee he Jun 10 22:07:51 me too Jun 10 22:07:54 missouri Jun 10 22:08:02 johnc4510: you are healed Jun 10 22:08:09 slofgren: yes, np Jun 10 22:08:29 slofgren: it is just hard to talk over everyone Jun 10 22:08:30 np Jun 10 22:08:43 i'm not the best mod Jun 10 22:08:45 either Jun 10 22:08:56 slofgren: need to log on to your nick Jun 10 22:09:01 eh...you do fine Jun 10 22:09:25 dx00: I am Jun 10 22:09:35 SlickMcRunfast: can you help in phoenix on items with comp4kids and marketing project? anything Jun 10 22:10:08 dx00: you are not though Jun 10 22:10:11 ;) Jun 10 22:10:26 * johnc4510 say to all to check tomorrow on outline wiki for volunteer subpage Jun 10 22:10:27 slofgren: ups Jun 10 22:10:41 * johnc4510 says he will have it up by noon or so Jun 10 22:10:44 :) Jun 10 22:10:55 for the marketing one, we need people who are actually at those colleges Jun 10 22:11:05 or have relations to them Jun 10 22:11:11 that would be really good Jun 10 22:11:25 which would be me... Jun 10 22:11:26 * johnc4510 says yes Polygon89 we have several people on campus's Jun 10 22:11:33 SloggerKhan: ty Jun 10 22:11:41 * dx00 has quit ("leaving") Jun 10 22:11:42 that works :D Jun 10 22:11:52 Polygon89: SloggerKhan is in the know about u of a activities Jun 10 22:12:00 * dx00 (n=ssjgolle@wsip-70-166-106-109.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Jun 10 22:12:14 dx00: what can you tell us about server? Jun 10 22:12:18 welcome dx00 Jun 10 22:12:25 :) Jun 10 22:12:39 dx00: is server functional yet? Jun 10 22:12:40 the server is on the rack now and we are trying to install the OS Jun 10 22:12:44 ah Jun 10 22:12:58 we been having problems because a confirmed bad cdrom Jun 10 22:13:00 trying? Jun 10 22:13:03 dx00: have you tried net install yet Jun 10 22:13:03 ah Jun 10 22:13:19 kinda Jun 10 22:13:21 dx00: as slofgren suggested Jun 10 22:13:23 ? Jun 10 22:13:33 dx00: did it not work? Jun 10 22:13:38 or usb install Jun 10 22:13:43 it turn out to be a little more involved that we wanted it and didn't have all the equipment to do a net install Jun 10 22:13:53 no Jun 10 22:13:53 ah Jun 10 22:14:00 equipment? what is required? Jun 10 22:14:12 we need another puter with dhcp Jun 10 22:14:20 ah Jun 10 22:14:21 I wil be down in phx next week. I might be able to help Jun 10 22:14:25 dhcp server actually Jun 10 22:14:33 let me know when Jun 10 22:14:36 ok Jun 10 22:14:43 I am not sure now Jun 10 22:15:01 I will tell you when I know Jun 10 22:15:12 I have to go back down to my office in Phx Jun 10 22:17:38 * dx00_ (n=ssjgolle@wsip-70-166-106-109.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Jun 10 22:17:44 arr Jun 10 22:17:47 heh Jun 10 22:17:53 * dx00 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jun 10 22:17:56 dx00_: heh Jun 10 22:18:04 bad internet connection? Jun 10 22:18:09 lmao Jun 10 22:18:15 sorry guys, i'm not a home (on public network) and keep getting reset Jun 10 22:18:27 whats the last thing i said? Jun 10 22:18:30 * johnc4510 asks if anything else Jun 10 22:18:32 heh. they must not like you being on irc Jun 10 22:18:33 free beer Jun 10 22:18:38 you said "let me knw when" Jun 10 22:18:45 oh Jun 10 22:18:56 johnc4510: Jun 10 22:18:59 Im up for free beer Jun 10 22:19:02 dx00_: yes Jun 10 22:19:09 dx00_ is buying Jun 10 22:19:17 one of the things that im also working on is... Jun 10 22:19:19 sweet! Jun 10 22:19:30 ACL and servers, along with policies Jun 10 22:19:52 but like slofgren was saying earlier, we need to know what the server will be used for Jun 10 22:20:08 we have some ideas Jun 10 22:20:12 and that means we really need to look at the role of the ubuntu team Jun 10 22:20:29 whoa that lagged Jun 10 22:20:45 dx00_: server will be used for channel stats, tetrinet, our web page hosting and anything else we need it for Jun 10 22:20:47 and the function of the server will be greatly impacted by wether we are lug type of team or a lug supporter Jun 10 22:21:22 we also need to know if we are just wanting to use our server for testing or suporting others Jun 10 22:21:28 dx00_: some of these are questions i can't answer right now, and some you will have to explain Jun 10 22:21:50 slofgren: testing what, supporting whom Jun 10 22:21:52 thats why i suggested earlier that we talk about the team purpose Jun 10 22:22:03 on a different meeting Jun 10 22:22:15 I say we don't use our server for team testing and we try and make it something functional Jun 10 22:22:24 like as in test apache Jun 10 22:22:31 or other services we want to learn Jun 10 22:22:49 we need to have the server be stable Jun 10 22:22:54 not just for random use Jun 10 22:23:04 yeah Jun 10 22:23:15 I would liek to see our server used to support arizona lUGs and our loco Jun 10 22:23:19 * johnc4510 says he thinks server should be used for anything the team wants i know that is vague, but i don't have the expertise to forsee our needs Jun 10 22:23:34 also goos ubuntu support for non computer geeks Jun 10 22:23:34 slofgren: yes good idea Jun 10 22:23:39 slofgren, while I do agree we should use the server for something productive, there are those, such as myself, that would like to learn new skills Jun 10 22:23:45 that would be a good idea for the people who are active in the lugs Jun 10 22:23:47 thats understood johnc4510, but there needs to be guidelines Jun 10 22:23:51 slofgren: it should be a teaching tool for team Jun 10 22:23:52 to see what the could we use the server for Jun 10 22:23:55 and that depends on what the purpose of the team is Jun 10 22:24:08 maybe we could setup something else to play with Jun 10 22:24:19 or use spare computers to send around to play on Jun 10 22:24:28 dx00_: what do you see the purpose of the team as being? Jun 10 22:24:41 johnc4510: i don't exactly know Jun 10 22:24:49 but I do Jun 10 22:24:58 I have spent time thinging about it Jun 10 22:24:59 slofgren: give us some ideas then Jun 10 22:25:01 thats why i recomend that we do talk about the purpose of the team Jun 10 22:25:08 yes Jun 10 22:25:11 dx00_: do you have time now Jun 10 22:25:30 i think we should do a conferance call or even meet in person Jun 10 22:25:37 I don't but you did not ask me Jun 10 22:25:41 i rather literally talk about it Jun 10 22:25:47 dx00_: I agree Jun 10 22:25:56 dx00_: slofgren ok sorry Jun 10 22:26:00 much more can get done with voice Jun 10 22:26:15 okay, when and where? Jun 10 22:26:25 my typing sucks like MS ME Jun 10 22:26:25 * johnc4510 says he can't travel to phoenix right now other ideas on discussion Jun 10 22:26:38 confrence call Jun 10 22:26:48 who would host the call? Jun 10 22:26:50 I can go to phx and we can call tucson Jun 10 22:26:56 skype Jun 10 22:27:01 ah, yeah Jun 10 22:27:11 i can meet in phoenix Jun 10 22:27:20 jacob__: cool Jun 10 22:27:28 i don't have skype Jun 10 22:27:32 could install Jun 10 22:27:44 or a conferance call Jun 10 22:27:49 johnc4510: do you have access to a confrence phone Jun 10 22:27:50 johnc4510, maybe this can help you with Skype Jun 10 22:27:50 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype Jun 10 22:27:51 google talk or something, there are programs in linux that let you use google talk's voip Jun 10 22:28:13 br24 and Polygon89 good ideas Jun 10 22:28:45 my lap top cant do voice, but if we had a group meet in phx that has one i can meet there Jun 10 22:28:47 anyway, thats all i got for server stuff Jun 10 22:28:49 i believe the linux client for google talk voip is called "tapioca" or something Jun 10 22:29:23 dx00_: you are meeting with slofgren this wk is that right slofgren Jun 10 22:29:37 slofgren: ? Jun 10 22:29:39 its possible Jun 10 22:29:46 johnc4510: I wil go to phx when our new computer arrives Jun 10 22:29:54 I can not say when Jun 10 22:30:03 it is in Dell's hands ;) Jun 10 22:30:29 could be end of this week or beginning of next Jun 10 22:30:38 * johnc4510 says with dx00_ slofgren and jacob__ maybe i am not needed Jun 10 22:30:40 ? Jun 10 22:30:50 eh? Jun 10 22:30:53 huh? Jun 10 22:30:55 i really think johnc4510 should be there Jun 10 22:31:00 * johnc4510 says ok Jun 10 22:31:01 johnc4510: you need to be apart of this Jun 10 22:31:06 :P Jun 10 22:31:08 k Jun 10 22:31:17 johnc4510 ftw ;) Jun 10 22:31:19 where in phoenix are we talking about? Jun 10 22:31:29 probably my office Jun 10 22:31:37 east Bell road Jun 10 22:31:39 * johnc4510 says he can not meet in person in phoenix Jun 10 22:31:44 huuu meeting in phoenix? Jun 10 22:31:59 we can call you johnc4510 Jun 10 22:31:59 are the reast of you guys around tucson? Jun 10 22:32:00 SlickMcRunfast: you want to meet about server Jun 10 22:32:07 mostly Jun 10 22:32:12 i am at 3rd ave and jefferson Jun 10 22:32:28 then oyu guys could all gather somewere we could call Jun 10 22:32:36 take the 51 jacob__ Jun 10 22:32:43 :) Jun 10 22:32:49 * johnc4510 asks if you all meet in phoenix could you not call me and get my imput that way on speaker phone Jun 10 22:32:51 ? Jun 10 22:33:08 yeah, thats what we can do Jun 10 22:33:18 sure Jun 10 22:33:19 * johnc4510 says he sees dx00_ already had that idea Jun 10 22:33:29 what time would we be doing this? Jun 10 22:33:34 * johnc4510 says that would work for him Jun 10 22:33:37 yeah johnc4510 it would be a conference call Jun 10 22:33:48 * johnc4510 says wed is out for him Jun 10 22:33:59 I would like to be part of this meeting Jun 10 22:34:00 sister arriving at tucson airport Jun 10 22:34:23 it would have to be after working hours... Jun 10 22:34:26 dx00_: can we get br24 in on conference call Jun 10 22:34:29 I will let everyone know as soon as I am able to go to phx and we can see if then we can set a time Jun 10 22:34:37 okay Jun 10 22:34:51 slofgren: do you have conferance phone? Jun 10 22:34:58 dx00_: yes Jun 10 22:35:01 SlickMcRunfast: can you meet sometime in evening on this? Jun 10 22:35:03 dx00_: a polycom Jun 10 22:35:31 johnc4510 and jacob__, you just need to dial to slofgren phone and that would get you both in Jun 10 22:35:39 johnc4510: do you have a conference phone available? Jun 10 22:35:58 slofgren: i just have a regular home phone Jun 10 22:35:59 jacob__: can you come to north phx Jun 10 22:36:02 don't know Jun 10 22:36:06 johnc4510: that is cool Jun 10 22:36:25 i could, but I cant get off of work till 5... unless it would be on the weekend Jun 10 22:36:29 or else I can call Jun 10 22:36:46 * johnc4510 says someone will have to let me know when and a number :) Jun 10 22:36:58 dx00_: did you see pm? Jun 10 22:37:03 I think the meeting needs to be 6 or later due to my work and using their phone Jun 10 22:37:11 i agree Jun 10 22:37:16 agreed Jun 10 22:37:17 plus everyone works til 5 or 6 Jun 10 22:37:24 ok with me Jun 10 22:37:42 dx00_: did you see private msg? Jun 10 22:37:43 johnc4510: can't pm right now Jun 10 22:37:49 ah Jun 10 22:37:56 * dx00_ has quit ("leaving") Jun 10 22:38:01 haha Jun 10 22:38:07 damn Jun 10 22:38:19 * dx00 (n=ssjgolle@wsip-70-166-106-109.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #ubuntu-arizona Jun 10 22:38:20 he is at starbucks I bet Jun 10 22:38:24 ah Jun 10 22:38:24 lol Jun 10 22:38:27 yuck Jun 10 22:38:35 dx00: starbucks? Jun 10 22:38:51 yeah, thats fine Jun 10 22:38:52 dx00: i will send you email about pm Jun 10 22:38:56 mcdonalds wifi? Jun 10 22:38:57 k Jun 10 22:39:04 hehehe Jun 10 22:39:32 * johnc4510 says mac's wifi is greasy i bet :) Jun 10 22:39:42 brb Jun 10 22:39:54 anyway, i'm done with server stuff Jun 10 22:40:10 dx00: forever? ;) Jun 10 22:40:19 lol Jun 10 22:40:33 dx00: we can work together on it when I come down Jun 10 22:40:39 if you want Jun 10 22:40:41 that be cool Jun 10 22:41:02 just let me know when you can come Jun 10 22:41:04 dx00: I won't chat your ear off this time :p Jun 10 22:41:16 thanks Jun 10 22:41:18 but I probably will :) Jun 10 22:41:19 :) Jun 10 22:41:33 dx00: email on way Jun 10 22:41:44 I need to get going. Jun 10 22:41:53 slofgren: ty bye Jun 10 22:41:58 :) Jun 10 22:41:58 yeah me too. lots of work tonight Jun 10 22:42:04 slofgren: ty bye Jun 10 22:42:13 hehe Jun 10 22:42:17 see ya Jun 10 22:42:27 bye johnc4510 and all Jun 10 22:42:31 jacob__: thanks for coming and your imput Jun 10 22:42:32 Sorry all Jun 10 22:42:36 goodnight. Jun 10 22:42:36 slofgren: np Jun 10 22:42:42 got it johnc4510 Jun 10 22:42:44 SloggerKhan: np bye Jun 10 22:42:45 this is fun Jun 10 22:42:50 good group Jun 10 22:42:50 dx00: ty Jun 10 22:42:59 this was a long meeting Jun 10 22:43:00 laters all Jun 10 22:43:01 jacob__: we are a lively bunch Jun 10 22:43:03 :) Jun 10 22:43:11 Polygon89: bye Jun 10 22:43:12 bye Polygon89 Jun 10 22:43:14 now playing: Speed King -- Deep Purple Jun 10 22:43:18 :P Jun 10 22:43:21 a classic Jun 10 22:43:32 * slofgren still hangs in chan Jun 10 22:43:34 from made in japan Jun 10 22:44:53 * johnc4510 says thanks to all and bye Jun 10 22:45:02 see ya Jun 10 22:45:21 bye johnc4510 Jun 10 22:46:32 * br24 is away: busy Jun 10 22:46:40 everyone have a good evening Jun 10 22:47:16 you too Jun 10 22:47:23 Tcl interface unloaded Jun 10 22:47:23 Exaile! 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