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> = Agenda = == Meeting Links == * Link to previous meeting * [[MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110127]] * Link to next meeting * [[MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110210]] == Action Items from last meeting == * NCommander to talk to the release team on which team to track w.r.t. to bugs (co) == Standing Items == * http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html * http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-natty-alpha-2.html * Unity 2D Status * Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) * QA Status (GrueMaster) * ARM Porting/FTBFS status ([[MichaelCasadevall|NCommander]], janimo) * ARM Image Status ([[OliverGrawert|ogra]], [[MichaelCasadevall|NCommander]]) * Any Other Business = Meeting Outcome = {{{ [15:00] #startmeeting [15:00] Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is NCommander. [15:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:01] who's here? [15:01] * rsalveti waves [15:01] * ogra pretends to [15:01] me too :) [15:02] hello [15:02] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110203 [15:02] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110203 [15:02] * davidm thinks it's too cold [15:02] [topic] Action Items from last meeting [15:02] New Topic: Action Items from last meeting [15:03] [topic] NCommander to talk to the release team on which team to track w.r.t. to bugs (co) [15:03] New Topic: NCommander to talk to the release team on which team to track w.r.t. to bugs (co) [15:03] c/o (again) [15:03] [topic] Standing Items [15:03] New Topic: Standing Items [15:03] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html [15:03] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html [15:03] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-natty-alpha-3.html [15:03] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-natty-alpha-3.html [15:03] should we list the alpha 2 items? [15:04] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-natty-alpha-2.html [15:04] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-natty-alpha-2.html [15:04] I think the wi are all done, but just to make sure [15:04] NCommander: you need to move your wi to alpha3 [15:05] rsalveti: indeed, as qt4-x11 still doesn't work on ARM [15:05] yup [15:05] NCommander, I have also been debugging the Qt issue. Takes time since qt rebuilds are slow. Not sure what the bug is though :( [15:06] anything else on work items? [15:06] janimo: thanks, its appericated :-) [15:06] we should see that we get below 10 items per person on the aÂ§ tracker imho [15:06] *aÂ§ [15:06] GRR [15:06] A3 [15:07] ogra: :-) [15:07] especially rsalveti and me [15:07] yup [15:07] is that the cat on yopur keyboard? [15:07] janimo: want to take another bp? [15:07] :-) [15:07] rsajdok, bp? [15:07] got too many, and still need to debug sgx [15:07] ah blueprint [15:07] yes [15:07] janimo, no, i have no capslock led on the ac100 [15:07] janimo: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-arm-n-handle-core-boot-files-update [15:08] rsalveti, ok feel free to assign it to me [15:08] still didn't start, but should be fine [15:08] i'll drop the thin clients spec and am happy to give away the BT remote testing for the mediacenter one [15:08] that gets me on exactly 10 items [15:09] though the build cluster stuff isnt really tied to the release schedule [15:09] the gles porting one is now kind of blocked [15:09] because of the compiz and nux port by linaro [15:09] so it should be easy to work on [15:09] once it's done [15:09] can we do anything to speed them up ? [15:09] ogra, help out with porting I guess [15:09] ogra: nops, need dev work from linaro side [15:10] k [15:10] can we move on? [15:10] from my POV you can ... anyone else ? [15:10] yup, move [15:10] [topic] Unity 2D Status [15:10] New Topic: Unity 2D Status [15:11] still broken on ARm due to qt4 being foobared [15:11] unity-2d MIR was reviewed by mterry [15:11] had a good amount of licensing issues still [15:11] these were fixed and included in the latest package [15:11] so unity-2d itself is fine for main [15:11] the libs arent yet [15:12] two of them are still missing symbols files [15:12] which i plan to have fixed by end of the week [15:12] MIRs are ok beyond that [15:12] so after that fix we theoretically are ready for main inclusion [15:12] i will try to pull it to main but leave it off the images next week [15:12] \o [15:13] and wait for the QT fix [15:13] go ogra for handling this :-) [15:13] (and also hoping that we get a magical fix with 4.7.2) [15:13] ++ [15:13] [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [15:13] New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [15:13] which according to Riddell is due "any minute" (since a week or so) ;) [15:14] .. [15:14] we're now using kernel 2.6.38 for omap 3 [15:14] I fixed one dvi issue we had, patch followed to linux-omap and already integrated at our tree [15:14] there were some issues about responsibilities wrt security updates for lucid and maverick [15:14] so now we have it working fine for beagle and xM [15:14] * janimo somewhow doubts qt 4.7.2 fixes this [15:14] ogra: oops [15:14] for omap 4 no other updates [15:14] janimo, likely not, but one can hope :) [15:15] davidm, was the support matrix discussed with kernel/security ? [15:15] and are they clear which kernels need support and which not ? [15:15] ogra yes [15:15] ++ [15:16] I sent rtg a list of what needs support [15:16] rsalveti, any idea when we get something newer than .35 for omap4 ? [15:16] He forwarded same to the section of the kernel team that does that work [15:16] i guess thats something for the call [15:16] ogra: not atm, still waiting more update from the linaro + ti [15:16] probably [15:16] .38 is looking interesting and will be very late in cycle [15:17] yep :-( [15:17] sigh [15:17] again [15:17] I'm working the issue but it's not pretty [15:17] yeah, we'll see the same thing as maveirck [15:17] late core updates all around [15:18] that costed us sound support last cycle [15:18] :( [15:18] yup :-( [15:18] can I move on? [15:18] yup, nothing else from my side [15:18] go [15:18] [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [15:18] New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [15:19] Release testing went quite smooth. [15:19] No major issues, only a few minor ones. [15:19] Last minute uploads almost clobbered the release image though. [15:19] and no arm realted ones ! [15:19] 'related [15:20] (apart from the muted XM sound) [15:20] Audio controls on panda will also need to be fixed with UCM. [15:20] indeed === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [15:21] There is audio, but it is difficult to control. [15:21] hey, but we made A2 [15:21] :D [15:21] and pretty smooth this time [15:21] yes we did. [15:21] yup [15:22] nothing else here. [15:22] move [15:23] *yawn* [15:24] [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [15:24] New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [15:24] did you guys start using the new list ? [15:24] new list? [15:24] QT4 debugging continues with another set of build tests [15:24] ogra: ne wlist? [15:24] the one slangasek promotes since the rally [15:25] * NCommander hasn't heard of it [15:25] please make sure to talk to him [15:25] as in mailing list, or list of bugs (porting qurue) [15:25] queue [15:25] NCommander, it was discussed at the rally as well as in last linaro/arm call [15:25] porting queue [15:26] so a set of tags and processes for triaging and fixing armel porting issues [15:26] in LP [15:26] the ftbfs website isnt really close wrt timing [15:26] between linaro and us [15:26] i.e. we didnt have the empathy blocker for A2 on it [15:27] ogra: the ftbfs page is only delaARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [15:27] even 5h after the build had failed [15:27] yed sometihng like ~30 minutes-ish [15:27] argh [15:27] NCommander, the ftbfs list only gets generated twoce a day [15:27] *twice [15:27] ogra: that was fixed [15:27] with th move to launchpadlib [15:28] in any case the new porting queue as discussed should be used [15:28] with packages taking one day to build it is the perfect sampling frequency :) [15:28] heh [15:28] yeah [15:28] ogra: the new list isn't populated yet, sorry - not much there to use yet [15:28] if you need more info, slangasek can point you to urls and tags [15:28] Coming Soon [15:28] oh, ok [15:28] so until then use the ftbfs site :P [15:28] * ogra hides [15:29] plenty of work on the ftbfs site too (kde!!) [15:29] janimo: i recommend ignoring KDE until Qt is fixed [15:29] Yes, kdelibs needs love. [15:29] blame NCommander, he said all oreal issues were fixed upstream :P [15:29] *qreal [15:29] NCommander, sure [15:29] Missed release this time around as a result. [15:29] GrueMaster: that was intentional due to the qt4-x11 issues [15:30] Until Qt is resolved, KDE is not on my TODO list 10:30:39 < janimo> plenty of work on the ftbfs site too (kde!!) [15:30] I guess upstream introduces new qreal issues when doing a new minor release [15:30] it is release noted [15:30] (ok [15:30] no worries [15:30] this is getting annoying [15:30] * NCommander has to fix his kb [15:30] get a new one ;) [15:30] they dont cost the world [15:30] [topic] 10:31:48 < NCommander> this is getting annoying [15:30] 10:31:53 * NCommander has to fix his kb [15:30] New Topic: 10:31:48 < NCommander> this is getting annoying [15:30] .... [15:31] [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [15:31] New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [15:31] awesome ! [15:31] they rock !!! [15:31] \o/ [15:31] siny and sexy [15:31] *shiny indeed [15:31] nothing else to report atm [15:31] I do [15:31] headless creation postponed after A2 [15:32] so we'll have them tomorrow ? [15:32] ;P [15:32] nm on my news [15:32] :-) [15:32] after, not shortly after :P [15:32] :) [15:32] NCommander, yes? what's the news? :) [15:33] janimo: we'll beat the headless work into the ground ASAP, its at least fairly straightforward [15:33] janimo: you beaAny Other Business [15:33] oh give me a break [15:33] :) [15:33] * NCommander goes to find mallet [15:33] ogra: Pool is frozen. Have to wait until Monday first thing. [15:33] (anything else?) [15:34] GrueMaster, pool? [15:34] debian arch or swimming? [15:34] yes [15:34] :P [15:35] GrueMaster, pull out your swim suit [15:35] will thaw today [15:35] * NCommander hopes its the former as the idea of GrueMaster in a swimsuit scares and confuses me [15:35] so NCommander did you find the mallet? [15:35] Oh, you don't want that. [15:35] anyway, can I move? [15:35] can you type? [15:36] possibly [15:36] [topic] AOB [15:36] New Topic: AOB [15:36] * NCommander has nothing [15:36] other meeting times so we can have persia back ? [15:37] (not serious here, but it seems to be awkward for him to attend atm) [15:37] and i must say i miss him [15:37] meeting wise [15:38] * NCommander thinks it might be easier to move Japan ... [15:38] go ahead [15:38] then to get us all in times that aren't bad [15:38] :) [15:38] though i prefer to have more than 20sqm to live in [15:39] ok [15:39] anything else? [15:39] going once [15:40] twice [15:40] three times [15:40] #endmeeting [15:40] Meeting finished at 09:40. }}} == Action Items == * NCommander to talk tod the release team on which team to track w.r.t. to bugs (co) = Weekly Reports = == Michael Casadevall (NCommander) == * Qt debugging continues == Minutes == * Qt continues to remain broken * KDE FTBFS due to Qt breakage