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> = Agenda = == Meeting Links == * Link to previous meeting * [[MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20100928]] * Link to next meeting * [[MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20101012]] == Action Items from last meeting == * None == Special Items == * None == Standing Items == * http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile.html * http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.10.html * http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-mobile-assigned-bug-tasks.html * Kernel Status (cooloney, mpoirier, lag) * QA Status (GrueMaster) * ARM Porting/FTBFS status ([[MichaelCasadevall|NCommander]], [[DavidSugar|dyfet]]) * ARM Image Status ([[OliverGrawert|ogra]], [[MichaelCasadevall|NCommander]]) * Any Other Business = Meeting Outcome = {{{ [14:11] #startmeeting [14:11] Meeting started at 08:11. The chair is NCommander. [14:11] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [14:11] question is if he stays awake :) [14:11] * NCommander had a time zone adjustment failure [14:11] Does he ever? [14:11] heh [14:12] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20101005 [14:12] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20101005 [14:12] No Action items or special items from last week [14:12] [topic] Burndown chart [14:12] New Topic: Burndown chart [14:12] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile.html [14:12] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile.html [14:13] [link] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.10.html [14:13] LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-mobile-ubuntu-10.10.html [14:13] OMG ! [14:14] we're deep red [14:14] so there's one last action item left open, persia, can you close it? :-) [14:14] persia, !!! [14:14] NCommander, there are three [14:14] (see the overall chart) [14:16] [action] persia to close and/or postpone his remaining action items for 10.10 [14:16] ACTION received: persia to close and/or postpone his remaining action items for 10.10 [14:16] anything else on the charts? [14:16] what about the buglist ? [14:16] [link] http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-mobile-assigned-bug-tasks.html [14:16] LINK received: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-mobile-assigned-bug-tasks.html [14:16] ogra_ac: that's separate from the burndown charts no? [14:17] k [14:17] * ogra_ac vaguely remembers an action item for NCommander that doesnt seem to have been transferred ;) [14:17] regarding the bugs :) [14:18] * NCommander doesn't :-) [14:18] [action] NCommander to unassign himself from bugs (c/o) [14:18] ACTION received: NCommander to unassign himself from bugs (c/o) [14:18] anything else on the bug list? [14:19] I guess not [14:19] [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, mpoirier, lag) [14:19] New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, mpoirier, lag) [14:19] been working on b637947 all week - nothing else to report. [14:19] .. [14:19] NCommander, dont you run so fast ! [14:19] 7me was just typing :P [14:19] anyway [14:19] bug 637947, maybe? [14:19] Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637947 [14:20] o/ [14:20] we're working on it [14:20] trying to get patches in today [14:20] since thats the last chance to make the release [14:21] can you guys make sure the kernel team is available for us to make uploads etc ? [14:21] anything else from the kernel side? [14:21] * Texas Instruments (ti-omap) [14:21] * PATCH : IGEPv2's 6 patches are being worked into the SRU process (OMAP3) [14:21] * PATCH : A new set of ftrace patches have been released - will integrate in Natty (OMAP3) [14:21] * PATCH : Received patch from TI that enables passing the MAC address to the kernel from u-boot [14:21] * ON GOING : B637947 Latest sound patches are available from TI - configuration problem still exists [14:21] * ON GOING : B653002 Currently under investigation - TI suspects a silicone problem [14:21] * ON GOING : B637947 Still working on the userspace ALSA or PulseAudio configuration [14:21] * FIXED : B647890 Fixed the building error [14:21] * WORKROUND: B633227 Applied patches from Nicolas to set memory 2G:2G - enabled the errata for PL310 lx20 cache controller [14:21] * MISC : "fakeroot debian/rules binary-omap" seems to be broken on Natty - investigation is required [14:22] * MISC : Some members of the Arm team received ES2.1 boards - so far it's as good as ES2.0 [14:22] .. [14:22] ah, there's lag [14:22] :D [14:22] Hi ya [14:22] yeah, we have slow network NCommander :) [14:22] lots of lag :) [14:22] lag, Natty ?!?! [14:23] lag, please stop building omap3 in natty [14:23] that either needs to go into a feature branch again or we need to swithc to linaro [14:23] Speak to mpoirier [14:23] * ogra_ac will add a spec for that [14:23] ogra_ac: that's a company decision... [14:23] ogra_ac: yes well, its not my fault you forgot to pack a high-speed interneet connection from Germany ogra_ac ! [14:23] mpoirier, no [14:24] mpoirier, we cant work that way, omap3 needs fixes at times where the mainline kernel cant be uploaded anymore ... [14:24] mpoirier, building omap3 delays the mainline kernel builds a lot [14:24] both teams suffer from it being in the core tree [14:25] who's idea was it to put it in the core tree ? [14:25] thats an unbearable situation, we either need to change it back or completely switch to linaro kernels [14:25] mpoirier, lool's with agreement from the kernel team [14:25] I suppose it was put there for a reason... [14:25] we tried it one release, its not workable [14:25] yes, "because we can" [14:26] its a test that failed badly [14:26] then let's get the concerned parties together and settle on the issue. [14:26] we would have IGEP2 support properly working if we had a feature branch with separate policies [14:26] mpoirier, thats what i said above [14:26] i'll create a spec for discussion at UDS [14:26] ogra_ac: mpoirier I think UDS would be the proper venue for this discussion TBH [14:27] ah [14:27] just dont waste time on natty branches now [14:27] :-) [14:27] anyway, can I move on? [14:27] yep [14:27] just again [14:28] [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [14:28] New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [14:28] we need exceptoions and uploads [14:28] *today* [14:28] RC Testing went well. No major issues found, except the missing installer icon on dove images, which is now fixed. [14:28] please someone be available from the kernel team to do that [14:28] Netboot image for omap was missing modules for usb. No keyboard, no networking. Colin has worked to fix this for release. [14:29] \o/ [14:29] GrueMaster: omap3 or 4 ? when was that discovered ? [14:29] ast week [14:29] *last [14:29] omap/omap3/beagle. [14:30] we dont build netboot for omap4 [14:30] and omap3 are just a nice to have goodie [14:30] leftover from luicd [14:30] This is not a kernel issue. This was an issue with debian installer. [14:30] right, that too [14:30] The modules were not included in the netboot image. [14:31] NCommander, move if there are no other questions [14:32] [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet) [14:32] New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, dyfet) [14:32] We (ncommander and I) discussed plt-scheme yesterday [14:32] FTBFS looks relatively happy on all architectures, not just ARM excluding openjjfk [14:32] below 100 pkgs !!! [14:32] thanks to doko !!! [14:33] we owe him a lot, he's the only one really working actively on that list atm [14:33] +1 beer to doko [14:33] +3 from me :) [14:34] :-) [14:34] [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [14:34] New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [14:34] omap4 runs on panda ES2.1 !!! [14:34] * NCommander heard [14:34] WOOT! [14:34] all open RC bugs were fixed apart from sound [14:34] Its great when hardware is properly designed to be relatively compatible and sane [14:35] Dove is currently looking good, sound issue aside [14:35] not sure about omap3 (i didnt test since a while) or dove [14:35] GrueMaster, how did omap3 look last time you tested ? [14:35] Installer icon shows up where it should be, and its relatively fast and responsive [14:35] Looked good, other than the missing modules in the netboot image. [14:35] cool [14:36] Audio has the same issues across the board, though. [14:36] omap, omap4, dove. [14:36] omap and dove can have SRUs for that [14:36] omap4 will get fixes today [14:36] I think we're in very good shape at this point and I think armel+dove and possibly armel+omap can go out the door on 10.10.10 [14:36] (or workarounds) [14:36] omap4 too [14:36] hopefully [14:37] we only need the xloader patch [14:37] that should be enough, workst case all other fixes can be SRUs [14:37] ogra_ac: check thatwith davidm since thats contray to what I heard yesterday [14:37] xloader and uboot are the things we cant update [14:37] otherwise, WOO [14:37] if they are in shape omap4 is ready for 10.10.10 [14:38] davidm, ^^^^ [14:38] please agree [14:38] ogra_ac: why can't you update XLO or u-boot [14:38] NCommander, because they are not handled by packages in the image [14:38] we treat them like BIOS [14:38] ogra_ac: ah. fair enough.We could fix it, but it would be fugly [14:38] a way we inherit through using flash-kernel from debian [14:38] NCommander, lets fix it in a non ugly way [14:39] SPEC !!! [14:39] ogra_ac: right [14:39] will need good thinking through [14:39] [action] ogra + davidm to determine armel+omap4 releasability and notify the release team with the result [14:39] ACTION received: ogra + davidm to determine armel+omap4 releasability and notify the release team with the result [14:39] ++ [14:39] thanks [14:39] i'll be able to tell tonight [14:40] [topic] Any Other Business [14:40] New Topic: Any Other Business [14:40] really depends on the kernel team [14:40] ogra_ac, theree were NO kernel changes for OMAP 4? [14:40] we need an uploader for the sound fix [14:40] davidm, apart from sound ? no [14:40] davidm, es2.1 should work out of the box with the xloader changes [14:40] ogra_ac, lets have a talk later [14:40] yep [14:40] lets wait how today at TI turns out [14:41] we can say for sure by end of day [14:41] robclark is just testing the instabilities issues we saw yesterday [14:41] so soon we should know better if it works or not [14:41] but I'd say that we just need x-loader fixes [14:41] ++ [14:42] anything else left for this meeting? [14:42] Or can I close it out? [14:42] nops, hopefully we'll be on-line sooner today [14:42] activity reports !! [14:42] dont foget them :) [14:42] I did mine ;-) [14:42] rsalveti rocks [14:42] rsalveti: maybe one of you should buy a prepaid broadband solutoin and make a hotspot [14:42] (and he's the only one here) [14:42] NCommander, THATS WHAT WE USE [14:43] OOPS [14:43] yup :-) [14:43] damned caps [14:43] ogra_ac: so when you run out of bandwidth on AT&T they make you use all caps?< i didn't know that! [14:43] * NCommander runs. [14:43] anyway, about to close the meeting [14:43] going once [14:44] * ogra_ac slaps NCommander with a holiday inn pancake [14:44] mmmmm, tasty [14:44] So ogra_ac, does thisw mean you will do a status report too? [14:44] * ogra_ac slaps GrueMaster with a holiday inn pancake [14:44] * GrueMaster has bacon and will slap back. [14:45] greasy meeting ! [14:45] * NCommander notes that ogra_ac and GrueMaster should get a room to save all our visions. [14:45] anyway [14:45] NCommander, quick close the meeting [14:45] going once [14:45] twice [14:45] three times [14:45] #endmeeting }}} == Action Items == * persia to close and/or postpone his remaining action items for 10.10 * ogra + davidm to determine armel+omap4 releasability and notify the release team with the result * NCommander to unassign himself from bugs == Minutes == * TI strike force in Dallas to help get ES 2.1 ready for release. * Dove on target for release * Spec drafting begins = Weekly Reports = == Michael Casadeval (NCommander) == === This Week === * Testing Dove for release * Reviewed and sponsored dyfet's plt'scheme, and reviewed changes with doko * Spec drafting begins === Next Week === * Release! == Ricardo Salveti (rsalveti) == === This Week === * Working with Bryan on bug #633227, found an errata that helps but doesn't seems to fix the issue. More debugging with TI on going. * PowerVR SGX Omap 3 packages finally uploaded and working! * Working with TI to improve the PowerVR SGX Omap 4 packages * Tested PowerVR SGX Omap 4 with our image and clutk/mutter from asac, working better than expected (unity still doesn't work) * Build a kernel for bug 646368 with the proposed fix, waiting someone with IGEPv2 to test * First draft of EDID parsing published at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=rsalveti/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap3-edid-parsing, discussion on-going with upstream * Helped reviewing and testing Audio patches from Sebastien for Omap 4 === Future === * Work to get the proper x-loader for ES2.0 and ES2.1 * Help TI with SGX packages * Help debugging and fixing display issues with Panda * Help bringing up ES2.1 == David Sugar == === This Week === * Thought I had resolved plt-scheme, it got reopened, resolved with Michael what I did was correct. * Resolved and triaged a number of bugs and a few ftbfs's === Next Week === * Carefully review and annotate all Debian release critical "grave" issues that may apply to Maverick * Review remaining assigned bugs make sure they have a disposition or clarify what they depend on * Continue bug triage and ftbfs issues * Motu application